Why do you think no decision has been announced yet?

willia451 · Jan 3, 2020

Why do you think no decision has been announced yet?

CouchCoach · Jan 3, 2020

Sydla said:
I have an understanding of contract law. If an NFL coach had a clause in his contract that would result in the team having to pay a substantial sum if they fired him 10 days before his contract expired, then the owner and his attorneys are morons because that would be a poorly written contract.

And I get your point. I am saying that's an idiotic way to handle this. I actually agree that Jerry can't quit Garrett. But dragging this out because he doesn't want to fire him but just let his contract expire is moronic. Because anyone with a brain knows that if Garrett's contract isn't renewed, he was fired. Only Jerry Jones could try to rationalize that distinction, I guess.

It's just a word but fired carries a conotation with it that not renewing his contract doesn't. It's not as harsh, that's why people choose to use the word "laid off" instead of fired. And some are given the opportunity to resign instead of being fired.

The fact remains, it's the same message, you are not wanted. I agree, it's semnatics but completely understandable in this situation, these men go back 28 years and are as close as family.

Some as so pissed at Garrett that they want that "fired" attached to his name. They need to be content with the information Garrett actually wanted to stay, or said he did. They will just have to be happy with not giving the child candy instead of stealing it.

NewCoach · Jan 3, 2020

The way I see it, two possibilities:

1. Jerry's listening to his good friend Jason Garrett, and letting him make his case to remain the coach, hoping he can come up with a plan he finds satisfactory.

2. Jerry's plan is to tell the media that they TRIED to keep Garrett (after his contract expires), but just couldn't come to an agreement. He will say that not keeping Garrett had NOTHING TO DO with performance, and they WANTED HIM BACK. And he will say that Garrett is a highly coveted head coach, and sometimes in business, your best employees end up leaving you.

strollinruss · Jan 3, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
You make a good point! Look at us sitting around making demands. *we* don't run this team or tell anyone how to run it. And they don't ask us. We simply follow...or not follow. Like I said, we could just go play golf or sledding or hunting for a few days instead. Let it play out. Instead we act like yipping puppies.

It is kinda crazy how most people get so worked up. I realized years ago that no matter how passionate I was my paycheck stays the same.

GORICO · Jan 3, 2020

Reality said:
I thought it would be fun to let everyone guess at why they think no decision has been made yet.

My theory is that *IF* the Cowboys are indeed not re-signing Garrett, the guy they want is on the staff of a playoff team, likely a highly seeded team with a bye week, so they know they can let Garrett finish out his contract and avoid actually "firing" him while still going after the guy they want once that happens.

What is your guess?

acutally Reality--your point does make the most sense to me..but then i have to wonder if Jerry would act so reasonable...he oftens pulls stunts.....i dont have the patience for this stuff

GORICO · Jan 3, 2020

strollinruss said:
It is kinda crazy how most people get so worked up. I realized years ago that no matter how passionate I was my paycheck stays the same.

well if that is how you rate life..by your paycheck then that is fine....my son chose to make 3 times the money i do....the stress level and misery are factors involved too

bewp7 · Jan 3, 2020

i would like to hope jerry has some sort of master plan and he’s just patiently waiting on his guy while being overly respectful to garrett...but i think it’s just incompetence. i think jerry jones is an egomaniacal buffoon.

Staubacher · Jan 3, 2020

I think Garrett is still groveling for his job to the point of it being pathetic.

Dalmations202 · Jan 3, 2020

CouchCoach said:
He may want them but giving up 2 1sts on a team needing those picks for a HC is dumb.

Don't know Belichick's situation contractually but Zimmer has 2020 left and Payton just signed a new fat deal. I could see Booger being more interested in Payton's asst HC, Dan Campbell or Zimmer's OC, Stefanski, or Belichick's OC than the HC's.

You could very well be correct that it is one of the coordinators instead of a HC, but Jerry's ego is pretty large and be it money or draft picks or knowing a clause allows someone out of their contract is something I am not privy to. I am just speculating on why Jerry would wait, and PO the fans, potentially losing $$$$, unless he thinks the big splash would bring in more than he would lose. He could just say Jason isn't going to be the head coach next year and it would be in the papers one day with lots of speculation and him do whatever he wants with Jasons new contract, but he is waiting, and keeping the media glued to everything Dallas is doing right now. So since he is a business man, I suspect $$$$ is talking somewhere.

Sydla · Jan 3, 2020

Jerry Jones officially bought the Cowboys on Feb 25, 1989.

On Feb 26, 1989 he fired Tom Landry.

Surprised he didn't pick his brain for two weeks.

Shake_Tiller · Jan 3, 2020

Kaiser said:
Great post, I do think all of this is theater and fans are cats chasing a lazer pointer around the room.

I had the same thought about Werder's article - its a shot across the bow from someone at the level of Stephen or McClay. But Kris Richard was the Rooney Rule guy for the Giants, the Cowboys could also do a quick meeting with him to meet the requirement.

I doubt Dallas is trying to build a Rooney defense. But I do think there is a legitimate chance, based on the past, the NFL could decide an interview isn't enough if one could reasonably believe a decision on a coach had already been made. In some ways, the league looks bad for allowing these clearly frivolous interviews to repeat their requirement. And Dallas is a favorite "example," where Goodell is concerned.

Really don't think that is a reason for this Garrett delay, but it's not an implausible thought process.

I suspect the actual reason is the simplest -- Jerry Jones loves Garrett and doesn't want to say publicly the man has been fired. He can simply let the contract lapse.

We can all argue the rest of our lives that it's a distinction without a difference, but I kind of understand Jones treating it as a matter of principle. Technically, it wouldn't be a firing.

Rogerthat12 · Jan 3, 2020

I think Jerry is letting his contract expire and handling him as much like a family member as possible given the circumstances.

Jason is completing his coaching duties, staff and player exit interviews with team evaluation probably until the 14th when his actual contract expires.

I do think they have candidates in mind as to a new coach and could have an agreement in principle with the man or will get rolling behind the scenes while Garrett completes his duties.

Just a matter of time really!

CowboyFanInLexKy · Jan 3, 2020

blueblood70 said:
this is basically whats happened

they mutually decided to not announce the departure until the 14th where they both can say it was a mutual and amicable breakup..it makes sense no need to say we fired our Hc when his deal ends the in 10days..

However enough players and media have heard hes not being resigned says hes gone..

Not to argue with you but how do we know the players have heard he's not being resigned? What players heard he's not being resigned?

How do we know they're going to announce the departure? How do we know they're not going to announce "we decided to extend Garrett again"?

As you can tell I'm very worked up about this because last night, it was blasted on ESPN news all night saying the Cowboys have separated themselves from Garrett... As I posted in another thread, (until last night) that (outside the Dallas Cowboys website who is run by the organization) I used to take ESPN news as gospel. I never took SAS shows serious but I'm talking about ESPN news desk news. I'm totally flustered now... LOL

DBOY3141 · Jan 3, 2020

Shake_Tiller said:
I doubt Dallas is trying to build a Rooney defense. But I do think there is a legitimate chance, based on the past, the NFL could decide an interview isn't enough if one could reasonably believe a decision on a coach had already been made. In some ways, the league looks bad for allowing these clearly frivolous interviews to repeat their requirement. And Dallas is a favorite "example," where Goodell is concerned.

Really don't think that is a reason for this Garrett delay, but it's not an implausible thought process.

I suspect the actual reason is the simplest -- Jerry Jones loves Garrett and doesn't want to say publicly the man has been fired. He can simply let the contract lapse.

We can all argue the rest of our lives that it's a distinction without a difference, but I kind of understand Jones treating it as a matter of principle. Technically, it wouldn't be a firing.

They didn't do anything to Oakland when they brought Chucky back. Everyone knew he was the next coach.

TheTruthIsOutThere · Jan 3, 2020

IMO, it can only be three things.

1.) Working on contract and conditions on him returning as HC and also how to break it to all the fans that want him gone.
2.) Trying to get Garrett to accept another role in the organization.
3.) Working with Garrett on player and assistant coach evaluations before they let him go.

The third one doesn't make much sense.

Ben7 · Jan 3, 2020

Reality said:
I thought it would be fun to let everyone guess at why they think no decision has been made yet.

My theory is that *IF* the Cowboys are indeed not re-signing Garrett, the guy they want is on the staff of a playoff team, likely a highly seeded team with a bye week, so they know they can let Garrett finish out his contract and avoid actually "firing" him while still going after the guy they want once that happens.

What is your guess?

Whew, Oh Migh, That made a lot of sense and gave me some relief!!! lol haha heehee Otherwise I was think Jerrah need to be committed to a mental hospital!

Shake_Tiller · Jan 3, 2020

DBOY3141 said:
They didn't do anything to Oakland when they brought Chucky back. Everyone knew he was the next coach.

I get that, and they haven't done anything, or nearly as much, to several players whose sins seemed to equal or exceed (at least in proof) Elliott's. Goodell could say -- this is where I draw the line. Again, I don't think he would. I'm simply saying it's not outlandish to consider the possibility.

MysteryIceGuro · Jan 3, 2020

First of all, screw the exit interviews. If the person that wants to interview him is that close to him, text him and ask him to meet up or FaceTime him. No need to keep stalling to keep him in the building

2nd of all, no official firings yet? Seriously? Jerry might as well go ahead and sell AT&T Stadium and just make this cowboys team play in a circus tent with reinvented cowboys clown uniforms if he plans on running the organization like this.

SteveTheCowboy · Jan 3, 2020

CouchCoach said:
It's just a word but fired carries a conotation with it that not renewing his contract doesn't. It's not as harsh, that's why people choose to use the word "laid off" instead of fired. And some are given the opportunity to resign instead of being fired.

The fact remains, it's the same message, you are not wanted. I agree, it's semnatics but completely understandable in this situation, these men go back 28 years and are as close as family.

Some as so pissed at Garrett that they want that "fired" attached to his name. They need to be content with the information Garrett actually wanted to stay, or said he did. They will just have to be happy with not giving the child candy instead of stealing it.

To be clear....I really don't care about the legal ramifications of the verbiage...not my business. Jerryworld can do whatever the lawyers are advising.

And I do not have any huge vendetta against Garrett, other than the same as any other coach that has "lost" and needs fir....er.....replaced.

(PS...no animosity or argument towards you...I just want to be clear....I'm not gonna tippitoe about what this is/could be just for the sake of some imagined objectivity or agenda.)

gongjr · Jan 3, 2020

Maybe the Jones family is sponsoring the world's most frustrating bingo game? Best reason I got

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