News: USAToday: Woodson snubbed again by HoF, Garrett decision still looms

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Is that the look the Eagles fans are going to have after Sunday? lol... Couldn't resist.
 

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Or is it even remotely possible that the rest of the world holds him to a more objective view than Cowboys fans? If you think something and everyone else thinks something different, that doesn’t mean everyone else is crazy and you’re not.
Define everyone


Then read my post above yours.


Also, you sound mad.
 
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I disagree that Polamalu was better than Woodson. Troy was flashier, & was more of a fan favorite. Woodson was more of a lunch pale, blue collar guy. Looking at their stats, yeah Troy P had 9 more interceptions. Yet, Darren W had hundreds more tackles. Hundreds.

Watching both of their entire careers, I'd say they're both worthy. Offenses worried about both of them.
 

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it's a shame woodson doesn't get more consideration. incredible player. this team would be in the playoffs this year with a woodson in his prime.
 

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25 of the 326 hall of famers are cowboys, a team made after 1960. You know this isn’t true
It is comments like this that make me dislike my being a moderator sometimes.

"Hall of Famers who made the major part of their primary contribution for any one club are listed in bold." - PFHOF

Bob Hayes (1965-1974)
Bob Lilly (1961-1974)
Emmitt Smith (1990-2002)
Gil Brandt (1960-1988)
Jerry Jones (1989-present)
Larry Allen (1994-2005)
Mel Renfro (1964-1977)
Michael Irvin (1988-1999)
Randy White (1975-1988)
Rayfield Wright (1967-1979)
Roger Staubach (1969-1979)
Tex Schramm (1960-1989)
Tom Landry (1960-1988)
Tony Dorsett (1977-1987)
Troy Aikman (1989-2000)


"In cases where a player contributed about equally and/or in a major way to two or more clubs – he is listed in bold under both clubs (ie. Gary Zimmerman is listed with both the Vikings and the Broncos as his primary teams)." - PFHOF

Charles Haley (1992-96)
Deion Sanders (1995-99)


"Hall of Famers who spent only a minor portion of their career with any club are listed under that club in normal font." - PFHOF

Bill Parcells (2003-06)
Forrest Gregg (1971)
Herb Adderley (1970-1972)
Jackie Smith (1978)
Lance Alworth (1971-1972)
Mike Ditka (1969-1972)
Terrell Owens (2006-08)
Tommy McDonald (1964)


The above is the accurate breakdown of hall of famers listed for the franchise per the Pro Football Hall of Fame's own definition. You can apply an incomplete categorization that is applicable to ALL teams but it will still remain a wrong conclusion.

The discussion is about players who have contributed the majority of the careers for the franchise and/or very little association with other teams. The conversation is about deserving Dallas Cowboys, [edit] particularly p-l-a-y-e-r-s, not in the Hall. Period.
 
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Anti cowboys bias???
Although I have stated there is Dallas Cowboys bias in the past, I will allow the Pro Football Hall of Fame's own words to speak on the subject of selection.

The Pro Football Hall of Fame's 48-person Selection Committee is charged with the vital task of continuing to be sure that new enshrinees are the finest the game has produced - Becoming a Hall Of Famer, PFHOF

The Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Selection Committee has been given the task over the years to pick the National Football League’s All-Decade Teams - NFL's All-Decade Teams, PFHOF

The long-held argument made by members of the Selection Committee from not selecting players like Pearson and Harris is that they do not enshrine very good players. Just the best players.

So.

On one hand, the Selection Committee agreed Pearson and Harris were the best players of the 1970s.

On the other hand, the same Selection Committee does not agree Pearson and Harris are not among the best players in NFL history, which includes the 1970s.

The Selection Committee is made up mostly of northeastern and midwestern hypocrites.

The last sentence is just my opinion though.
 

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Define everyone


Then read my post above yours.


Also, you sound mad.

no one else outside the cowboys community defines him as such, confirmed by the fact that he doesn’t get hall of fame votes
 

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It is comments like this that make me dislike my being a moderator sometimes.

"Hall of Famers who made the major part of their primary contribution for any one club are listed in bold." - PFHOF

Bob Hayes (1965-1974)
Bob Lilly (1961-1974)
Emmitt Smith (1990-2002)
Gil Brandt (1960-1988)
Jerry Jones (1989-present)
Larry Allen (1994-2005)
Mel Renfro (1964-1977)
Michael Irvin (1988-1999)
Randy White (1975-1988)
Rayfield Wright (1967-1979)
Roger Staubach (1969-1979)
Tex Schramm (1960-1989)
Tom Landry (1960-1988)
Tony Dorsett (1977-1987)
Troy Aikman (1989-2000)


"In cases where a player contributed about equally and/or in a major way to two or more clubs – he is listed in bold under both clubs (ie. Gary Zimmerman is listed with both the Vikings and the Broncos as his primary teams)." - PFHOF

Charles Haley (1992-96)
Deion Sanders (1995-99)


"Hall of Famers who spent only a minor portion of their career with any club are listed under that club in normal font." - PFHOF

Bill Parcells (2003-06)
Forrest Gregg (1971)
Herb Adderley (1970-1972)
Jackie Smith (1978)
Lance Alworth (1971-1972)
Mike Ditka (1969-1972)
Terrell Owens (2006-08)
Tommy McDonald (1964)


The above is the accurate breakdown of hall of famers listed for the franchise per the Pro Football Hall of Fame's own definition. You can apply an incomplete categorization that is applicable to ALL teams but it will still remain a wrong conclusion.

The discussion is about players who have contributed the majority of the careers for the franchise and/or very little association with other teams. The conversation is about deserving Dallas Cowboys, [edit] particularly p-l-a-y-e-r-s, not in the Hall. Period.

and how many of those players in now were snubbed for decades because of how much the nfl hates the Dallas Cowboys?
 

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and how many of those players in now were snubbed for decades because of how much the nfl hates the Dallas Cowboys?
Weak sauce. The argument is who is not currently in the Hall--not those who eventually made it in. There are players, Cowboys and non-Cowboys alike, who are completely worthy of having been enshrined long before those who did make it in before them.
 

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...yet every player selected by the selection committee from the 1970's all-decade team were enshrined by the selection committee EXCEPT Pearson and Harris.

The counter argument is so full of holes it can be defined as otherworldly.

no, the counter argument is what hall of fame players at those positions made it instead of them? The ugliest dancer at the party is still ugly, even if he got invited.

there is no rule that says all of them need to make the hall of fame. Without looking at the list, I can tell you most of them are in because they’re Steelers with 4 rings
 

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no, the counter argument is what hall of fame players at those positions made it instead of them? The ugliest dancer at the party is still ugly, even if he got invited.
Yeah. Pearson and Harris were the most beautiful dancers who the selection committee danced all night with UNTIL the clock struck midnight. Then they both turned into pumpkins. :rolleyes::facepalm:
 

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Weak sauce. The argument is who is not currently in the Hall--not those who eventually made it in. There are players, Cowboys and non-Cowboys alike, who are completely worthy of having been enshrined long before those who did make it in before them.

But the argument is what’s being made for Darren Woodson. If you respond to my comments then you’re accepting the context for which they were made. Darren Woodson is one of, if not THE greatest safety who ever lived. I dispute that. Drew Pearson should be in the hall of fame simply because he made an all decade list. I counter it’s worth far more than that. The continuing argument seems to be the hall is biased against Cowboys, then how have so many made it in?
 
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