Troy Aikmans take is telling

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star-ving said:
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Lavar Arrington is why Aikman retired.
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No it could have been anyone. He just hit him last. Troy was a broken QB by that time.
 
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Posters forget that. He picked LaFleur out of default. And he was a hell of a lot better at LSU than he ever was for Aikman. Booger wasn't trading up for a TE, Aikman was lucky he even agreed to pick one in the 1st. Booger was still all about the triplets and never considered the offense without Novacek or a guy like him.
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Novacek was the forgotten man in that offense.
 
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Novacek was the forgotten man in that offense.
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You are correct. When Novacek went down the offense imploded. All we could do in the 1996 season was kick field goals.

We never had a second receiver after losing Harper. Novacek was able to hide that to a certain degree.
 
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And I would add to your good points is another reason we lost is Deion's no call when he Pass Interfered with Irvin. In '94, if Erik Williams doesn't get in that car accident we could have won that game. That was a brutal injury to us. But yeah in '96 losing the likes of Novacek, Stepnoski, Harper, and combined with the horrible draft of '95 when we purposefully drafted back ups, it was more talent was leaving then coming in. And with a bad head coach that didn't coach up or develop players we just couldn't get it right. I do vaguely remember Troy talking to Miami and San Diego. I also remember a story that Troy confronted Jerry in the tunnel at Texas Stadium when he was a broadcaster as "reminded" Jerry that he was released and then decided to retire to spend more time with his family. But Troy was a little unhappy with the narrative that he retired and wasn't released.

Cutting Troy was symbolic of cutting away any discipline the organization had. Someone said it right in an earlier post that Troy was a perfectionist. I agree and he wanted things run in a way that set up the team to win. Irvin was gone and injured, Troy was cut. Only Emmitt remained but Emmitt didn't have the perfectionist and discipline nature Troy did and to be honest Troy was the last person in our organization that had it. And we so need that back either in a head coach, players or something because Jerry has allowed a culture of "try hard and hope for the best" and it erased the competitive culture that Irvin and Aikman established.

We've never been the same since Troy retired/cut/or whatever. That's why I say he's the most underrated HOFer and not appreciated enough in NFL circles because his demand for perfection was more powerful than the owner's acceptance of mediocrity. That's a powerful man that can do that.
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I remember reading somewhere that Bill Walsh says if free agency didn’t come around, Dallas would have won 8 SBs. I don’t think any dynasty was hit with such a unique phenomena that completely drained it.

There were just too many factors for Aikman to overcome, especially when the strong personality of Jimmy Johnson to balance Jerry, left.
 
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Look, I get everybody is **excited** at the prospect of a new coach coming in here.

And some of these people are looking for excuses to tell Troy to get lost, they don't wanna hear it.

But look, he's been there. He knows what he's talking about. Your not accepting it and looking for excuses to reject what he's saying doesn't change anything.

JERRY JONES LITERALLY BELIEVES HE'S THE NEW AL DAVIS IN HIS PRIME.

He ***really*** does.

As I said earlier:

Any new coach we hire, everybody will know Jerry is the one who really runs things. Not that coach. This is because we have an owner who thinks he's the new Al Davis in his prime, when Davis was both owner/GM and taking the Raiders to the playoffs every year.

Well Jerry is not Al Davis or Paul Brown no matter HOW many *** kissing yes men he surrounds himself with.

Eddie DeBartolo was never sitting in the war room telling Bill Walsh who to draft. Robert Kraft would never dream of telling Bill Belichick how to do his business.

Jerry Jones not only expects to do BOTH of these things, he'll only hire coaches who will smile, swallow hard, and put up with it.

That's why this will never change until Jerry leaves. Troy Aikman understands this in a way a lot of the fans never will.

The new coach will be an ***-kissing yes man. WHY would you deny this? You think Garrett **wasn't** an ***-kissing yes man? You want to talk yourself into believing the NEXT coach won't be an ***-kissing yes man? Hey it's a free country. Believe whatever you want.

The **track record** is undeniable at this point, and Troy is going to honestly talk to the fans about it.
 

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DFWJC said:
Dallas won a Super Bowl after Jimmy left
Thats better than zero success.

If you want to give Jimmy credit, go ahead. But just saying...
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Sir let me ask you a question. We’re you actually watching the games during that period or are you just going by the record books? Switzer was not doing any coaching of the team. He would be eating hotdogs or n the sideline and going to his sons footballs games in Saturday. You know that was Jimmys’s team even after he left. That was such an amazing team it still amazes me to this day. People will say I am biased. It to me it’s the greatest team of all time. I can’t see any Patriot or Colt team of the 2000’s even having a shot against the peak 90’s Cowboys.
 
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DeStorm said:
Just watched "A Football Life, Troy Aikman"

He said he didn't leave because of the injuries, it was because of the organization.
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I watched the show and Troy never said that. He never left the organization he was released. It wasn’t his choice.
 
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Look, I get everybody is **excited** at the prospect of a new coach coming in here.

And some of these people are looking for excuses to tell Troy to get lost, they don't wanna hear it.

But look, he's been there. He knows what he's talking about. Your not accepting it and looking for excuses to reject what he's saying doesn't change anything.

JERRY JONES LITERALLY BELIEVES HE'S THE NEW AL DAVIS IN HIS PRIME.

He ***really*** does.

As I said earlier:

Any new coach we hire, everybody will know Jerry is the one who really runs things. Not that coach. This is because we have an owner who thinks he's the new Al Davis in his prime, when Davis was both owner/GM and taking the Raiders to the playoffs every year.

Well Jerry is not Al Davis or Paul Brown no matter HOW many *** kissing yes men he surrounds himself with.

Eddie DeBartolo was never sitting in the war room telling Bill Walsh who to draft. Robert Kraft would never dream of telling Bill Belichick how to do his business.

Jerry Jones not only expects to do BOTH of these things, he'll only hire coaches who will smile, swallow hard, and put up with it.

That's why this will never change until Jerry leaves. Troy Aikman understands this in a way a lot of the fans never will.

The new coach will be an ***-kissing yes man. WHY would you deny this? You think Garrett **wasn't** an ***-kissing yes man? You want to talk yourself into believing the NEXT coach won't be an ***-kissing yes man? Hey it's a free country. Believe whatever you want.

The **track record** is undeniable at this point, and Troy is going to honestly talk to the fans about it.
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Some don't want to accept the truth because if they did they would realize there is no hope until Jerry dies.
 
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Sir let me ask you a question. We’re you actually watching the games during that period or are you just going by the record books? Switzer was not doing any coaching of the team. He would be eating hotdogs or n the sideline and going to his sons footballs games in Saturday. You know that was Jimmys’s team even after he left. That was such an amazing team it still amazes me to this day. People will say I am biased. It to me it’s the greatest team of all time. I can’t see any Patriot or Colt team of the 2000’s even having a shot against the peak 90’s Cowboys.
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It really was an amazing team.

Just stating the facts though.
Read into what you want.
Of course I was watching the games, and attended most of them.

I said you could give Jimmy credit if you liked, but the fact is that he was no longer the coach.
I give the players the credit, then the absent coach for helping pull them together, then last...the existing coach
But Facts are facts.
Someone said they won nothing after Jimmy, but in fact, the did.
 
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Aviano90 said:
He also played on hard AstroTurf in a time when QBs weren’t protected. Defenders could still take 2 steps and still pummel the QB. Now you can’t touch the QBs head, you can’t go too low, you can’t land on them, It’s iffy to hit them near the sidelines or when they first slide depending upon how trigger happy the ref is.
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That too.
 

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It really was an amazing team.

Just stating the facts though.
Read into what you want.
Of course I was watching the games, and attended most of them.

I said you could give Jimmy credit if you liked, but the fact is that he was no longer the coach.
I give the players the credit, then the absent coach for helping pull them together, then last...the existing coach
But Facts are facts.
Someone said they won nothing after Jimmy, but in fact, the did.
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Sir you got me on semantics. If you really think about it those 90’s team were a terrible Pass interference penalty miss from going to 4 straight. Yes I know we would still have to score and get the ball back. T
Just go watch that 93 championship game in Dallas. Before Aikman got the concussion we were steamrolling the niners. We still won handily but the speed and power of those teams were off the charts. The really interesting thing I noticed was how Troy would actually scramble once in a while. Dak please use your legs like Russell once in a while
 
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morat1959 said:
I’ll agree but it doesn’t change the fact he couldn’t tote Aikman’s jock.
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Your hatred is noted. You have to realize that toting a jock is really a pretty simple task. I mean even you or I could simply carry a sweaty athletic supporter around......if we wanted. :laugh:
 
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Some don't want to accept the truth because if they did they would realize there is no hope until Jerry dies.
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Totally agree. Your reply here to drawandstrike's post, and the entire substance of his post in general, are exactly as you describe. Harsh yet truthful realities that no fan wants to face.
 

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Your hatred is noted. You have to realize that toting a jock is really a pretty simple task. I mean even you or I could simply carry a sweaty athletic supporter around......if we wanted. :laugh:
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You’re hilarious. You should be a comedian. Your lack of knowledge of a NFL QB is noted.
 
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Sir let me ask you a question. We’re you actually watching the games during that period or are you just going by the record books? Switzer was not doing any coaching of the team. He would be eating hotdogs or n the sideline and going to his sons footballs games in Saturday. You know that was Jimmys’s team even after he left. That was such an amazing team it still amazes me to this day. People will say I am biased. It to me it’s the greatest team of all time. I can’t see any Patriot or Colt team of the 2000’s even having a shot against the peak 90’s Cowboys.
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Thank you!! someone else has said it. I got into a huge argument with a friend of mine. I stated that the '92 Cowboys team with Jimmy as coach would have beaten any Patriot team coached by Belichek. He said I was crazy, and I'll be honest I have mood swings but that 92 and 93 Cowboys team were 3 deep at every position. My fiend argued that Belicheck would have outcoachd Johnson. I kind of laughed but I reminded him of something Pat Summeral said. He said in a broadcast or an interview about the Cowboys that they only ran 3-5 offensive plays. But they were so good that no one could stop the plays. The main running play was lead draw with Emmitt Smith and no one could stop it. In the Patriots dynasty, a talented team may have probowl quality players at some key positions. On offense you had HOFers in their prime at RB, QB and WR and everyone on the offensive line was a probowl caliber player. On defense you had Haley, Jeffcoat, Tollbert, Ken Norton, Kevin SMith, Larry Brown, Darren Smith, Darren Woodson, Leon Lett all in their prime.

Those battles with San Fransisco were epic. It was a team of all pros going against another team of all pros. The Manning Brady battles were not even close to how deep and talented those early 90's teams were. The best football game I have ever watched was '92 NFCCG in San Fransisco on a wet muddy field and the upcoming Dallas Cowboys beat the established 49ers in their own house. It was like every play was crucial and Emmitt, Troy and Irvin were beasts and Harper was the icing on the cake. Greatest game I ever watched. My heart was beating fast the whole game.
 
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