Breaking down Coaching options

The Fonz

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It doesn't matter who the next HC is until Jerry Jones is banned from the locker room and stops making comments to the media after every game. His micromanagement of this team has undermind every coach he has ever hired for this team. The sooner Jerry retires and makes Stephen the GM the better. Maybe Stephen will have the good sense to give that job to Will McClay.
His son will be worse than him
 

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The #1 issue is that Jerry won't have the Garrett type of attachment to any new Head Coach.

It is very similar to the Dez situation. Jerry was attached to Dez and over-ruled Stephen's objections to giving Dez the big contract.

Since the Dez contract and subsequent cut of Dez, Jerry has let Stephen run the football operations on all aspects except firing Garrett.

Once Garrett is replaced by anybody, Stephen Jones will be able to run the football operations similar to "normal" teams and will be able to fire the not-Garrett Head Coach at anytime.

Garrett was Jerry's last bastion of hope for the Jerry method to work out. All the players on the roster, the scouting dept., etc. are Stephen Jones decisions. Stephen Jones is coordinating the hiring of the new Head Coach. Jerry does not really care on regards to choosing between guys like Mike McCarthy, Marvin Jones or anybody that is NOT-Garrett.

Back in the day Jerry was surrounded by people like Larry Lacewell telling him that it was a good idea to hire Dave Campo. Lacewell didn't want to be usurped by a strong Head Coach which is exactly what happened when Parcells was hired and then fired Lacewell. Even after Parcells people like Lacewell were still handing around giving Jerry "Advice".

Stephen Jones has NOW managed to surround Jerry with people that take their lead from Stephen (family members, Will McClay, etc.).

That has been working with regards to players; however, it is much more difficult with Garrett because most of the Jones family love Garrett.
The Garrett family goes all the way back to Jones buying the team his father ran the scouting department when Jerry bought the team
 

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Hoping they interview Urban Meyer very soon.
I wish they would make the Garrett firing or not being with the team after his contract Runs Out official that would make me feel a lot better to start with
 

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His son will be worse than him
I doubt that very seriously. Stephen was born and raised for this job and has been the voice of reason in Jerry's ear for many years. He is the reason Jerry did not draft Johnny Football. He is the reason Jason Garrett's contract will be allowed to expire. Stephen has a good football mind and has the good sense to have Will McClay as his right-hand man.
 

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I doubt that very seriously. Stephen was born and raised for this job and has been the voice of reason in Jerry's ear for many years. He is the reason Jerry did not draft Johnny Football. He is the reason Jason Garrett's contract will be allowed to expire. Stephen has a good football mind and has the good sense to have Will McClay as his right-hand man.
to point yes but he still love talking too much he likes the spot light ..maybe not like his dad but not that far..i will have faith in him if he stop publicly talking about issues only the coach should be handling.
 

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This front office truly is stupid if Garrett is still a legitimate option. It all just looks like a show to keep him.
 

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Before we start lemme say these are largely subjective.
Everyone's stomach for various faults or preferences for certain characteristics will be slightly different.
That doesn't mean we can't agree on some basic truths tho so let's get rolling.

The Departed:
Ron Rivera -- Rivera is a tad overrated. He only had 3 seasons out of 9 where he finished at .500 or better, umm that's kinda terrible. He did have some real highs int here like the 15-1 season. But in the 4 season's since then 6,11,7,5(through 13 weeks when fired).
That's simply not very good results but he does know defense and he does bring in a team toughness.
Paired with a great offensive mind good things could happen.

Jason Garrett -- Redball had 10 seasons and only finished below .500 ONE TIME! That's actually very impressive. But there are some "issues". Lack of playoff success is ultimately the key one but he also was simply pretty bad as the offensive mind except where Romo really called the game via audible. As a walk-around CEO type in Dallas you are really managed by a "Board". In short, walk-around CEO types are not ideal in Dallas. JG will land somewhere but it better not be as head coach in Dallas. I'm honestly not sure why he would want that thankless job anyway. Its no win for him.

The Known interviews:
Marvin Lewis -- Lewis is 60 and has been around forever. He has a .500ish record for his career but an 0-7 playoff record. Coaching that long and not getting a single playoff win is really hard to do. Hiring him would result in your stadium being burned in most NFL cities. BUT he does have some elite defensive ties. He came up as the LB coach in Pittsburgh than the DC for the Elite Ravens defense. If Lewis was coming in to be the DC and you could place a Sean Lee under him as LB coach and DC in waiting that is a very Cowboys type move. And no one burns the stadium down. Not much to say here except this was either meet the Rooney Rule, drive the fanbase further crazy for fun, or to discuss defensive openings.

Mike McCarthy --- MM has to be called Eninem if he gets hired here right? He's by far the most decorated coaching candidate having went to 4 NFC Champ Games and winning 1 Lombardi trophy. Now any Packers fan will gladly rattle off how glad they were he's gone. But I dare say they are more than a bit spoiled having been the best NFC team during the period MM coached them.
All that said there's always warts. No one this battle-tested has come though without some.
McCarthy is an "old-head". He had a 13 year run in GB. He is going to be tied to offense from the 90s because we move on quickly. He was under .,500 his final two seasons in GB. Aaron Rodgers hated him at the end.
All that said, AR hates everyone including his own family. His dip in play hasn't vanished with a new hire they've simply relied on him far less.
He did have a year off which I like. It refreshes people and lets them clear their heads. He took some of that time to seriously study analytics. He learned about the data that is collected and became a BIG FAN. He has a full on required data department anywhere he goes.

The Hopefuls:
Wink Martindale -- Wink is the DC for the Baltimore Ravens who appear poised for a long playoff run. His defense has been excellent. Issues? Galore for me.
Wink has been a DC only 2 seasons. Any DC would look pretty good with Baltimore running the ball and controlling the clock at the rate they have this year. I'm a fan of a possible defensive coach hire but this bird needs some more seasoning imho.

Greg Roman -- Staying in Baltimore the offensive there is a thing of beauty. Lamar is picking people apart with legs and arm to the tune of NFL MVP status. Easy to love what Roman has done. But he's been the OC only 1 season. And he has a pretty sad run in NY with the Jets. He does have some skins however and was solid with Kaep in San Fran a decade ago. Roman will get a shot somewhere but I'm not a huge fan of one year mega leaps.

Josh McDaniels -- Josh is a very bright offensive mind. He's been able to appease a demanding Belichek for a long time. He's won lots of Lombardi's in Boston. All that said he comes with warts as well. He was pretty bad in Denver as a Head Coach and then backed out on the Indy job which cost us our DC.... He's also a pretty surly guy who learned his media approach from BB.

The Longshots:
Calling all college coaches longshots as we've been told they aren't on the immediate radar.

Urban Meyer -- My gut says Urban chatter is all driven by his agent. He is a big name but has no real NFL ties and a tarnished compliance rep w the NCAA. But he is a big-time winner. He's won at every stop and does so quickly. If you want a cut throat nothing matters but winning guy he's a good option. You simply have to put up with any NCAA to NFL learning curve.

Lincoln Riley -- Lincoln I know well enough from afar. He was a Red Raider walk on and is an Air Raid protege of Mike Leach. He's likable and very hard working. He's had OU atop the Big 12 for his entire tenure on that campus both as OC then as HC. Warts are relative youth and how heavily OU has relied on it's offense to win games. Something you really can't do in the NFL. Right now he feels like an Andy Reid ceiling type guy. Really good but never great.

Matt Rhule -- Matt would actually my choice of college hires. He was a Penn St Linebacker that has grown into an offensive coach. He has brief NFL experience has been a program maker. He elevates all areas of the programs he takes over O, D and ST. I suspect he is hired very shortly but not in Dallas.

My gut has said for a while now(before we knew he'd be interviewed) that Mike McCarthy would be the choice. He's got the skins on the wall Jerry respects and he has a properly crafted interview speech with slideshows about how he'd innovate and use data. But again those warts that Green bay fans see aren't lost on Jerry and Stephen. I'm just not sure the Jones' can have such a high bar as to take all that success for granted.
No matter how you spin it NOTHING about Garrett was impressive
 

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Garrett is gone, Jerry has too much respect for him to just fire him

it’s more respectful to Garrett to interview coaches while he’s still here? lol Makes him look even more pathetic. Let him get his job hunt under way. That would be respectful. This situation is a joke.
 

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Harbaugh is actually in a different category - he’s been a successful NFL Coach that took his teams to multiple Conference Championship Games

Harbaugh has the best resume of all the guys with NFL experience. I wonder if he’s even on Jerry’s list?
 

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living here in Okc...its been radio silence on Riley.
for me...
☆Urban Meyer
☆Lincoln Riley
☆Mike McCarthy
☆Dan Mullen

1 of those 4 would work just fine for me.
unless we can get Bill Belichick....then I want him.

Other than having coached Dak in college I don’t see the attraction to Dan Mullen.
 

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Funny you say this coz I read somewhere it Lacewell that encouraged Jerry to hire Monte Kiffen and switch to Tampa 2 D.
The transition to Stephen Jones running the football operations really ramped up with the 2014 draft.

No employee would have kept Jerry from drafting Johnny Football but his son did (Stephen, Garrett, McClay and other Jones family members got on the same page to keep the Lacewell types away from Jerry with regards to football discussions.

The Kiffin hire was when the Jones family realized that Jerry was losing it.

I worked with a company that was a 100M per year "family" business. Thet had the same wacky type of transition issues even down to the long time employee and friend of the father that was their general manager who had to go before the son could really be in control.
 

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He only had 5 winning seasons in 10 years and that includes the partial season when he took over for Wade.

Otherwise you could say he had 4 winning seasons out of 9 in which he was the HC for a full season. Not impressive.
He had 1 losing season, 4 .500 seasons and 5 over .500 seasons.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GarrJa0.htm
5-3
8-8
8-8
8-8
12-4
4-12
13-3
9-7
10-6
8-8

Compared to most available coaches he's a savant.
But like any Cowboys fan I want him very gone.
It doesn't mean we should lie about his record compared to others.
 

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The transition to Stephen Jones running the football operations really ramped up with the 2014 draft.

No employee would have kept Jerry from drafting Johnny Football but his son did (Stephen, Garrett, McClay and other Jones family members got on the same page to keep the Lacewell types away from Jerry with regards to football discussions.

The Kiffin hire was when the Jones family realized that Jerry was losing it.

I worked with a company that was a 100M per year "family" business. Thet had the same wacky type of transition issues even down to the long time employee and friend of the father that was their general manager who had to go before the son could really be in control.
That's a very real thing and any HC hired has to consider he is going to deal with Jerry initially then likely Stephen.
It's easy to get along in the honeymoon phase so if I were a HC, Stephen would be the guy I had to clock with to take this job.
 

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He had 1 losing season, 4 .500 seasons and 5 over .500 seasons.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/GarrJa0.htm
5-3
8-8
8-8
8-8
12-4
4-12
13-3
9-7
10-6
8-8

Compared to most available coaches he's a savant.
But like any Cowboys fan I want him very gone.
It doesn't mean we should lie about his record compared to others.

of course we’ll throw in those 5 crap wins from 2010 that meant absolutely nothing and those week 17 games where no one gives a flying crap about it but him. That records a facade. Case in point. 2019. Needed the win in Philly against their practice squad? Nope beat up on the Commanders after the fact. typical Jason Garrett right there. Tacking on a win% that ultimately leads no where at all but a worse draft pick. Guys a clown and people still defend him with this garbage? lol
 
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That's a very real thing and any HC hired has to consider he is going to deal with Jerry initially then likely Stephen.
It's easy to get along in the honeymoon phase so if I were a HC, Stephen would be the guy I had to clock with to take this job.

DLaw's agent said it was made clear to him that Stephen was making the decisions. His only contact with Jerry was in passing at some event (photoshoot if I recall correctly).
 

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living here in Okc...its been radio silence on Riley.
for me...
☆Urban Meyer
☆Lincoln Riley
☆Mike McCarthy
☆Dan Mullen

1 of those 4 would work just fine for me.
unless we can get Bill Belichick....then I want him.
My choices also
 

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My choices also

The key is who the HC will bring in as DC. My choice is going with a young with McDaniels and bringing in Wade Phillips or Teryl Austin as the DC. The defense needs fixed,

McDaniels and Wade Phillips or Teryl Austin.... getter done Jerry.
 
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