FEATURED Rapoport: Cowboys have agreed to terms with McCarthy to be next head coach

HungryLion

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How about because Jerry offered him the most money (if the case) and was he really in demand?

I'm genuinely interested to know what was McCarthy's record without Rodgers at QB?

Reid, Tomlin and Payton all have strong records when working with leftovers whilst McCarthy...was probably too busy enjoying a back massage during a team meeting!


1. McCarthy has already made a ton of money. He isn’t coaching still for money. He never has to work again.

2. He interviewed with 3 other teams. And head coach contracts are generally pretty standard.
 

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McCarthy aint no puppet, word is he got full control over the coaching staff......gave no concessions, something you said Jerry would never do.

As far as results go, the bar is not very high thanks to Garrett. It took him 10 years to win 2 Wildcard games, so that is an average of 1 Wildcard win every 5 years. I am pretty sure Big Mike can beat that mark, dont you;)
We’ll see how much Jerry undermines and distracts. Probably similar to Bill.

So, with a proven SB HC the Bar hasn’t been elevated over Jerrys favorite Puppet?
 

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I don't hate McCarthy but his ring means about as much as Garrett's would have if he had managed to stay out of the way and win the big game. The year he won the Super Bowl, Rodgers had a practically flawless second half of a season.

I loathe Rodgers more than most people, but nobody could deny that he "woke up" and molded himself into something of a legend for the next half season. He became just the third player to pass for 1000 yards in the post season that year.

And stayed awake to win MVP in 2011. But something funny happened. The 2011 Packers became the only team in NFL history to go 15–1 and not win a playoff game! Why? His receivers dropped six passes. His defense had 37 points dropped on them. Coaching problems when it mattered most!

I am not optimistic about this teams chances to win the big one. We don't have an MVP caliber quarterback to overcome a McCarthy or a Garrett. Welcome to five more years of mediocrity, Cowboys fans!
Quit projecting your negativity on everyone else! We went from a horrible head coach to a super bowl winning one.. It's's a good day.
 

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Quit projecting your negativity on everyone else! We went from a horrible head coach to a super bowl winning one.. It's's a good day.

I'll give my opinion when I damn well feel like it. I'm typically an optimist when I post on this board, despite the seas of negativity.

Now I give one negative opinion and you tell me to quit projecting? YOU quit projecting with your false narratives about this coach.
 

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I don't hate McCarthy but his ring means about as much as Garrett's would have if he had managed to stay out of the way and win the big game. The year he won the Super Bowl, Rodgers had a practically flawless second half of a season.

I loathe Rodgers more than most people, but nobody could deny that he "woke up" and molded himself into something of a legend for the next half season. He became just the third player to pass for 1000 yards in the post season that year.

And stayed awake to win MVP in 2011. But something funny happened. The 2011 Packers became the only team in NFL history to go 15–1 and not win a playoff game! Why? His receivers dropped six passes. His defense had 37 points dropped on them. Coaching problems when it mattered most!

I am not optimistic about this teams chances to win the big one. We don't have an MVP caliber quarterback to overcome a McCarthy or a Garrett. Welcome to five more years of mediocrity, Cowboys fans!

What a silly viewpoint ....... So is Bill B not a good coach because he has Brady? Was Jimmy not a good coach because he had Aikman?

Give me a break .......
 

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What a silly viewpoint ....... So is Bill B not a good coach because he has Brady? Was Jimmy not a good coach because he had Aikman?

Give me a break .......

That is not what I've implied... at all. What a silly interpretation of my post. Those are both great coaches.
 

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That is not what I've implied... at all. What a silly interpretation of my post. Those are both great coaches.

Yet neither of them have won anything without their hall of fame QB ....... Yet you are saying Rodgers won inspite of Mike.

Interesting
 

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Not saying that, either. I'm saying he's an average coach who had a premier QB. He was the main reason they didn't win more Super Bowls.
 

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Wonder when there will be something official from the franchise? Just checked the web site and it still says they are close to a deal.
 

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So just like Payton then?

Payton got suspended for a whole year after he won the Super Bowl. Same with some players that made their team great. It's not "just like". He has some excuses. There was also that infamous no-call PI that kept them out of the Super Bowl last year.
 

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I'll give my opinion when I damn well feel like it. I'm typically an optimist when I post on this board, despite the seas of negativity.

Now I give one negative opinion and you tell me to quit projecting? YOU quit projecting with your false narratives about this coach.
I agree with you, there should be nothing standing in the way of you projecting doom and gloom on others and for that I apologize for asking to to stop.
However, if I may so say so, you're really going incredibly negative on the whole situation far too early. McCarthy has done well in this league, in fact
much better than most. I guess I can't understand why we have to automatically predict doom and gloom so early? That doesn't seem like a whole
lot of fun..

Do me a favor, because I would love to debate you on this. Tell me why McCarthy can't help the Cowboys achieve our goals? Try keeping Jerry and his meddling ways
out of this because every coach is hampered with that so this isn't unique to just MM.
 

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I agree with you, there should be nothing standing in the way of you projecting doom and gloom on others and for that I apologize for asking to to stop.
However, if I may so say so, you're really going incredibly negative on the whole situation far too early. McCarthy has done well in this league, in fact
much better than most. I guess I can't understand why we have to automatically predict doom and gloom so early? That doesn't seem like a whole
lot of fun..

Do me a favor, because I would love to debate you on this. Tell me why McCarthy can't help the Cowboys achieve our goals? Try keeping Jerry and his meddling ways
out of this because every coach is hampered with that so this isn't unique to just MM.

I am not predicting Doom and Gloom. I'm predicting mediocrity. I voted that we would win a playoff game next season. That's mediocre for this team.

One reason McCarthy will get in the way because he's a chicken like Garrett. Afraid to go for it. Does this seem familiar? He lost this game for them.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/19/nfl-morning-after-mike-mccarthy-blew-it/

Here is another scary article.
"Mike has a low football IQ, and that used to always bother Aaron," this source says. "He'd say Mike has one of the lowest IQs, if not the lowest IQ, of any coach he's ever had."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay

He's an average coach and he held Rodgers back. They should have won more titles because they had a Super Bowl caliber team for years. It's just my opinion. Believe me, I'll be rooting for McCarthy come game day.

You can continue to be optimistic about him and I have no quarrel with that. Hell, you might even change my opinion about him, but I'd love to hear why you think he'd be a good coach.
 

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I am not predicting Doom and Gloom. I'm predicting mediocrity. I voted that we would win a playoff game next season. That's mediocre for this team.

One reason McCarthy will get in the way because he's a chicken like Garrett. Afraid to go for it. Does this seem familiar? He lost this game for them.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/19/nfl-morning-after-mike-mccarthy-blew-it/

Here is another scary article.
"Mike has a low football IQ, and that used to always bother Aaron," this source says. "He'd say Mike has one of the lowest IQs, if not the lowest IQ, of any coach he's ever had."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay

He's an average coach and he held Rodgers back. They should have won more titles because they had a Super Bowl caliber team for years. It's just my opinion. Believe me, I'll be rooting for McCarthy come game day.

You can continue to be optimistic about him and I have no quarrel with that. Hell, you might even change my opinion about him, but I'd love to hear why you think he'd be a good coach.


Okay, lets go!
By saying that McCarthy is afraid to go for it simply is judging him by a few situations where he failed to be aggressive. I can show you many times that he did go for it and was aggressive. You have to remember that Mike McCarthy was hampered with horrible defenses so this is going to by nature force you into being a bit more conservative offensively. I mean, you go for it here and give the opposing side the ball back with good field position your goose is cooked. I really honestly believe on this particular point you have to take into consideration what MM was working with on the defensive side of the instead of automatically labeling him as a perennial chicken. By your logic we should assume because Bill Bellichek sucked with the Browns that he was a failed hire when the Patriots signed him on. By using your logic and had the patriots not signed BB, they probably would have none of those super bowls right? All I'm saying is quit being so quick to judge here, and I think you can see by my breakdown that there are holes in your argument.

Also, I can't give much credence to Aaron Rogers saying that Mike has a low football IQ because of whom said it. Arod is a selfish arrogant prick whom really gets along with no one. We all know people like that, and its best to ignore that. Sure, Mike may of gotten lazy at one point, but remember what I said before, Mike's laziness could of been come from the organization failing to be proactive and bring in more talent. I'm not trying to give mike a pass here, but you have to understand that it's easy to make the coach the scapegoat when things aren't going well. Sometimes you just have to move on and start over because of the emotional dynamic.

when you say that MM is an average coach this is delusional. Rogers hasn't been as good without Mike and that is a fact. Sure he is still playing well, but the packers defense has carried them thus far through this season. If you look at Rogers objectively he has not looked like himself, call it age or whatever you want, but he is not the Arod of old. This is the first time in a long time that the packers have a defense responsible for winning them a ton of games.

Again, at the end of the day, opinions are like, well, you know... I wonder what your age is quite honestly, or how much experience you have in life, but my life experience paints a very different picture than what you see.
 

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Okay, lets go!
By saying that McCarthy is afraid to go for it simply is judging him by a few situations where he failed to be aggressive. I can show you many times that he did go for it and was aggressive. You have to remember that Mike McCarthy was hampered with horrible defenses so this is going to by nature force you into being a bit more conservative offensively. I mean, you go for it here and give the opposing side the ball back with good field position your goose is cooked. I really honestly believe on this particular point you have to take into consideration what MM was working with on the defensive side of the instead of automatically labeling him as a perennial chicken. By your logic we should assume because Bill Bellichek sucked with the Browns that he was a failed hire when the Patriots signed him on. By using your logic and had the patriots not signed BB, they probably would have none of those super bowls right? All I'm saying is quit being so quick to judge here, and I think you can see by my breakdown that there are holes in your argument.

Also, I can't give much credence to Aaron Rogers saying that Mike has a low football IQ because of whom said it. Arod is a selfish arrogant prick whom really gets along with no one. We all know people like that, and its best to ignore that. Sure, Mike may of gotten lazy at one point, but remember what I said before, Mike's laziness could of been come from the organization failing to be proactive and bring in more talent. I'm not trying to give mike a pass here, but you have to understand that it's easy to make the coach the scapegoat when things aren't going well. Sometimes you just have to move on and start over because of the emotional dynamic.

when you say that MM is an average coach this is delusional. Rogers hasn't been as good without Mike and that is a fact. Sure he is still playing well, but the packers defense has carried them thus far through this season. If you look at Rogers objectively he has not looked like himself, call it age or whatever you want, but he is not the Arod of old. This is the first time in a long time that the packers have a defense responsible for winning them a ton of games.

Again, at the end of the day, opinions are like, well, you know... I wonder what your age is quite honestly, or how much experience you have in life, but my life experience paints a very different picture than what you see.

You are assuming the same thing others have assumed from a previous post about Belichick. I didn't say that or imply it in either post. He's an awesome coach. He's a cheater, but he's also awesome at winning.

I hate Rodgers for some of the same reasons you mentioned. He also manipulates the media all the time, so his take on McCarthy doesn't change my opinion about McCarthy, I just agree with him there.

So I'm delusional, and too young and my opinion is like an *******? You know nothing about me. Ten years ago those insults would have upset me. I'm old enough to not dignify your post with more insults. This conversation is over.
 
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