Why would McCarthy choose Dallas?

willia451 said:

Property tax is 3 times more here in Texas than in the Midwest. Just saying.

Click to expand...

gimmesix said:

There have been all kinds of debates about the Joneses making Mike McCarthy the newest coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Some love the move, some hate it. Some think it was too quick. Some wanted the latest hot name or a college standout instead.

However, last night I started thinking about why McCarthy would want to come to Dallas. After all, there's no doubt that any potential coach had heard plenty about Jerry's meddling ways. The organizational failure of Jones has been discussed pretty much ad nauseam. Choosing Dallas means having to put up with Jerry's hands-all-over approach of owning a team.

McCarthy clearly had other teams interested in interviewing, yet he picked the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys picked him. It could have just been a money thing. It could even be the high-profile nature of the job. However, I think there also could have been a few other reasons.

1) McCarthy, like most of us, could easily see that this team underachieved under Garrett. He's not in a rebuilding situation, but one where he only should need to add a few parts to possibly achieve immediate success.

2) This could probably be added to one because it's saying the same thing: Coaches know they can't win without talent and key pieces are in place here. He doesn't have to find a quarterback. He doesn't have to find a stud running back. He's got four very solid pieces to the offensive line if they can stay healthy. If we bring back Cooper, he's got a very good receiving corps. On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet).

Defense is a little more sketchy. We've got one very good defensive end, two very good linebackers and a few decent secondary players. However, McCarthy is an offensive coach so I'm sure the offense was the draft.

3) Despite all the negatives about Jones, coaches know that he will get them what they ask for. I know the team has changed some on that, going cheaper in free agency, but I feel some of that was influenced by Garrett and his process, and the right coach will be able to produce a shopping list and get Jerry to fill it. If McCarthy tells Jerry that he needs a certain player, I just can't see Jones being able to resist getting him.

Click to expand...

gimmesix said:

There have been all kinds of debates about the Joneses making Mike McCarthy the newest coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Some love the move, some hate it. Some think it was too quick. Some wanted the latest hot name or a college standout instead.

However, last night I started thinking about why McCarthy would want to come to Dallas. After all, there's no doubt that any potential coach had heard plenty about Jerry's meddling ways. The organizational failure of Jones has been discussed pretty much ad nauseam. Choosing Dallas means having to put up with Jerry's hands-all-over approach of owning a team.

McCarthy clearly had other teams interested in interviewing, yet he picked the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys picked him. It could have just been a money thing. It could even be the high-profile nature of the job. However, I think there also could have been a few other reasons.

1) McCarthy, like most of us, could easily see that this team underachieved under Garrett. He's not in a rebuilding situation, but one where he only should need to add a few parts to possibly achieve immediate success.

2) This could probably be added to one because it's saying the same thing: Coaches know they can't win without talent and key pieces are in place here. He doesn't have to find a quarterback. He doesn't have to find a stud running back. He's got four very solid pieces to the offensive line if they can stay healthy. If we bring back Cooper, he's got a very good receiving corps. On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet).

Defense is a little more sketchy. We've got one very good defensive end, two very good linebackers and a few decent secondary players. However, McCarthy is an offensive coach so I'm sure the offense was the draft.

3) Despite all the negatives about Jones, coaches know that he will get them what they ask for. I know the team has changed some on that, going cheaper in free agency, but I feel some of that was influenced by Garrett and his process, and the right coach will be able to produce a shopping list and get Jerry to fill it. If McCarthy tells Jerry that he needs a certain player, I just can't see Jones being able to resist getting him.

Click to expand...

Diehardblues said:

Did anyone else offer him a job?

Click to expand...

BoysForLife said:

Good analysis, it seems people think we have this unlimited money supply to sign everyone we want at any figure.

and if they give approx half that $82 million to Dak, that doesn't leave much left over to sign everyone else. Or a suitable replacement/upgrade, which on the FA market will probably cost more than re-signing the guys we have.

Click to expand...

Ranching said:

I don't think Jerry is much worse than other owners. All billionaires want to win and make a return on their investment. Most of them do their meddling behind closed doors. Jerry does it in the media.

Click to expand...

Northern_Cowboy said:

82m is not as much as you think
put aside 8-9m for the draft class then figure out who you want to keep from this list none of these guys are signed for 2020 as of yet and if you don't sign them you will have to sign a few FA to replace them can't do it all from the draft

Dak
Cooper
Quinn
Cobb
Byron Jones
Malik Collins
Michael Bennett
Sean lee
Joe Looney
Joe Thomas

there are a list of others too but these are the main guys

Click to expand...

CowboyRoy said:

You really need to educate yourself before you open your mouth. I even went over this all with you not 5 hours ago this morning. Did you forget already? Is it any wonder you get so many things wrong?

McCarthy turned down 2 jobs last season including the Bucs vacancy. Recently he spoke to 5 teams about their openings and signed with the Boys.

Can you count? How many is that total?

Click to expand...

CouchCoach said:

He took himself off the market last year and according to reports, he had interest from the other teams in the hunt this year. Whether CAR, CLE or NYG would have made an offer, who knows? But he turned down CLE last year and they fell back on Kitchens as a stop gap.

The NFL loves to recycle so he would have gotten a job with one of these teams. CAR is rolling the dice with a college HC, your college HC. NYG passed on signing him to the same deal CAR gave him. If I am the CAR, I am not happy he played my deal and I imagine Rhule is not happy that got out.

Click to expand...

garyv said:

Existing Talent and to the NFL what the Yankees are to Baseball

Click to expand...

gimmesix said:

On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet)

Click to expand...

BoysForLife said:

5. Great Barbecue

Click to expand...

gimmesix said:

Only four of those players will make more than $5 million next year: Prescott, Cooper, Quinn and Jones. If they are signed to long-term deals, they probably won't make more than $10 million. (For comparison, Zack Martin made $6 million the first year of his new deal and Zeke Elliott made $6.3 million in 2019 after signing his new deal.)

To skew on the more expensive side, let's go with $10 million each for Prescott, Cooper and Jones, $8 million for Quinn, $5 million each for Cobb and Lee and $2 million each for Looney and Thomas. I don't think Bennett or Collins are considerations, but let's say they are also at $5 million each (and even if they are not there may be several other players we want to keep instead).

That's $67 million plus $9 million for the draft picks would put us at $76 million. So on the surface, it might look like it's going to be tight. However, unless we franchise Prescott or Cooper, these pretty much are the maxes we're looking at. I think we probably will shave at least $6 million off those numbers ... and we have not even considered restructures that can be used to open up cap space for players we want to sign. $82 million is just the starting point.

Click to expand...

Kaiser said:

Garrett's record was 85-67 with only one losing season in 9 when Romo was hurt. A third of the teams in the NFL would love to have that record for the next decade.

Click to expand...

Northern_Cowboy said:

I don't think it will be realistic to assume Dak would only count 10m against the cap this season, comparing his deal to that of Martin or Zeke would not be a fair comaparison, Dak's contract if he gets one would be double or close to triple the amounts Zeke and Martin signed for and you are also assumming he doesn't get the franchise tag. 2019 was the 1st year of Martin's new deal and his cap hit was 14m. He was in his 5th year option when he signed the deal. Dak and Cooper for that matter will not have a 5th year option to help with the cap hit

Click to expand...

CATCH17 said:

lol cause he's desperate for a job.

He tricked Jerry and half of this fan base with his analytics talk when he was really just inviting his drinking buddies over to watch some football.

Now he can go for it on 4th down more because analytics told him to.

Click to expand...

casmith07 said:

Starting tight end is not a question. Jarwin should start, and Witten is an impediment to the success of Jarwin individually and to the offense.

Click to expand...

jaythecowboy said:

It is more than enough if you sign Dak or Cooper to long-term deals instead of tagging them. You can backload the contracts so they only cost about $10 million each next year.

Click to expand...