11 wins 16 losses. Why so excited?

rocyaice said:

but what I do know is he knows how to simply manage a game

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does he? that was one of his biggest criticisms. that's why he has been telling everyone he embraced analytics in his year off

kumizi said:

does he? that was one of his biggest criticisms. that's why he has been telling everyone he embraced analytics in his year off

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I don’t recall hearing that. He sure managed to manage against us in our last two playoff losses to him.

NorTex said:

Mike McCarthy was a failure worse than Garrett in his last 2 seasons in Green Bay, causing him to be fired mid-season.

I don't understand the excitement of him being our new HC. Is it just because he studied film and has an analytics team? That might be new for him but it's not new for the Cowboys.

IMO, Mike McCarthy road the coattails of great QBs and it's a huge disappointment that he's now our coach. I hope he doesn't have much to do with our offense because without Rogers here to make him look good it's going to be ugly if we use his offense.

This is an interesting read...some really crappy play designs and standard/boring play designs:

https://theriotreport.com/mike-mccarthy-panthers-scheme-breakdown/

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pretty dumb take

Carter said:

One Season was without Aaron Rodgers and the next one with Aaron Rodgers with one Knee.

I think 11-16 was pretty good for that.

Garrett was 4-12 without his starting QB.

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and both with Ted Thompson who never did squat to make that team better.

ChronicCowboy said:

Rodgers called MM’s offense archaic. Roman hasn’t led a quality defense in 15 years.

This was a comfort hire for Jerry. His comfort level is paramount to success these days.

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Losing with a new staff is still better than keeping what we had.

NorTex said:

The difference is, McCarthy had a HOF qb to bail him out and keep defenses honest, in Green Bay. He doesn't have that luxury with the Cowboys.

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Well Nor 2 things I will say about that,
1.we have only seen dak play for a JG led team, with a different staff and HC he may be much better, or maybe not, but we cant know till we see it
next season. Also receivers and really the whole offense can help a QB look good or bad, and rodgers has always had good wr's , and good teams.
Those were all while mike led those teams.
2.If MM only won because of rodgers, how come after that one SB they won in 2010, Rodgers lost every nfc champ game he was in?
If he is so good how does he lose all of them? How did he go 15-1 , and then lose the first playoff game at home in GB??

Well it is not qb's that win games by themselves, it is a team effort, especially in playoffs and it isnt easy to get thru the playoffs and to a SB.
The playoffs are the tough part and that is where teams falter, 1 bad game or a few mistakes, and they lose and are out.
I dont think Rodgers is all that great myself, he is good, but like any other qb they need help from the rest of the team and coaches.

MM is not that great either, I happen to think most football head coaches are not that smart, and their players and asst coaches make them look better than
they really are.
The only really good coaches in the nfl to me are Harbaugh with the Ravens, and Bellechick, because they are consistent and they come up with new
ideas, and have done it with ever changing sets of players.
College coaches win by recruiting , if they do good there, they win , because they have the better players.
That does not work in the nfl, that is why so many college coaches fail in nfl.

The only thing I see in MM is that he was consistently in the playoffs, and his teams always played good, never sloppy, he won his div most years.
There is really no telling how he will do here but I expect the cowboys to not be sloppy, and to win the div more often, maybe 2 in a row, which is something
in 10 years JG could not do.
I think he is a big improvement over JG, was he the best choice? probably not, but the jones boys decide that not us. So better to just accept that MM
is now HC, and lets give him at least 1 year to see what the team and Dak look like under him, it has to be better than what we saw under JG.

I am just happy that JG is gone and we have a competent HC who has been around long time and has won a SB and been in playoffs a lot.
I would like to see a all new staff, if they keep kellen or richards I am ok with that, but would hope all the others are gone.
I dont think kellen or richards will be the play callers, they will just help in play design and game plans etc.
I expect MM will call the offense and Nolan will call the defense.
The other good thing is no more Marinelli players in the draft, and no more of the bend dont break zone defense crap.

I also think draft will be better in that no more gregory types, no more jaylons, no more trysten hills, etc etc. those were all wasted picks.

Only time will tell but be happy there will be big change , and a more disciplined and efficient cowboy team playing games, it will be refreshing,
and possibly exciting. I dont really care about SB runs, I just want to see a cowboy team that isnt a joke playing.

Many people wanted payton as HC, and after a great season he was one and done in playoffs lol , knocked out by minnesota ! which
was surprising to me. but that is how it goes in playoffs. And he has brees as qb, who most would say is way better than dak, so what
happened there, how did they lose their first playoff game and at NO !
Well I think it was coaching, something wrong with their game plan,
and to win in playoffs the game plan is huge, that and players playing great. Someone has to step up in those games, and you have to have
the right game plan or you lose.

rocyaice said:

I’m
Not gonna sit here and pretend like McCarthy is Bill Bellicheat but what I do know is he knows how to simply manage a game and that alone would’ve increased our win totals by about 3 if he was here this year.

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Plus his team's are prepared to play, problem is he just didn't get there talent that Jerry provides. I agree he isn't Belichek but not many are better than him either. Maybe Belichek is there only one better, that's active coaches

Irvin88_4life said:

Plus his team's are prepared to play, problem is he just didn't get there talent that Jerry provides. I agree he isn't Belichek but not many are better than him either. Maybe Belichek is there only one better, that's active coaches

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Man I’ll be honest I think Doug Pederson is a terrible coach. He seems to be a great motivator but since he lost his staff he makes some boneheaded mistakes that results in losses. But he had a ring. I feel like there’s Bellicheat then everyone else. I’m starting to look at Sean Payton a little differently too.

well, I guess I can pat myself on the back because years ago on another board I said Jason Garrett would never ever win a super bowl in Dallas. some guy said he would mark that down.
emmitt something another.

lmao.

NorTex said:

I don't understand the excitement of him being our new HC. Is it just because he studied film and has an analytics team? That might be new for him but it's not new for the Cowboys.

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People are stupid.

For Cowboy fans eager to blame Aaron Rodgers for Green Bay's failure to reach a second Super Bowl under Mike McCarthy you may want to remember that when GB won its last playoff game, in Dallas after the 2016 season, the final score was 34-31 and Rodgers had to play like a God to rescue a team with no running attack and a typically terrible defense.

The next week, the Packers got crushed in Atlanta. In fact, the Packers' pathetic defensive performances in their final 7 playoff losses under McCarthy demonstrate just why Cowboy fans need to be focusing on what he intends to do on that side of the ball:

2016 = 493 yards (Atlanta 44-21)
2015 = 368 yards (Arizona, 26-20)
2014 = 397 yards (Seattle, 28-22)
2013= 381 yards (San Francisco, 23-20)
2012 = 579 yards (San Francisco, 45-31)
2011 = 420 yards (New York Giants, 37-20)
2009 = 531 yards (Arizona, 51-45)

Avg = 452 yards and 36 points per playoff loss.

The Packers 2016 NFC Championship loss to the Falcons marked the 3rd time McCarthy's D had given up 44 or more points in a playoff loss.

In over 320 starts in NE, Tom Brady's D has never once given up 44 points.

Carter said:

OnGarrett was 4-12 without his starting QB.

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Garrett was 22-20 without his starting QBs though.

ChronicCowboy said:

Rodgers called MM’s offense archaic. Roman hasn’t led a quality defense in 15 years.

This was a comfort hire for Jerry. His comfort level is paramount to success these days.

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Rogers is a jerk. He blames everyone for him not being selected #1 overall. Funny that if MMs offense is archaic how come him and Brett Favre excelled in it?

DarthVander said:

Yes and what he did after that is very impressive. Even though he wasn’t coaching, he completely reinvented himself....this is what made me really intrigued. He took that firing to heart and changed.

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It's refreshing to hear a coach take responsibility and take criticism to heart to better himself as a coach. He didn't gloat over getting fired. Took time off to learn more about the game and see whats working and whats not.

I think he will come back with a chip on his shoulder and will want to prove that he's no dinosaur.

rocyaice said:

Man I’ll be honest I think Doug Pederson is a terrible coach. He seems to be a great motivator but since he lost his staff he makes some boneheaded mistakes that results in losses. But he had a ring. I feel like there’s Bellicheat then everyone else. I’m starting to look at Sean Payton a little differently too.

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Peterson isn't better than McCarthy, that's for sure. Had McCarthy coached the cowboys this season it would have been a 11 to 13 win season which would have eliminated philly weeks prior to the end of the season

MMObserver said:

For Cowboy fans eager to blame Aaron Rodgers for Green Bay's failure to reach a second Super Bowl under Mike McCarthy you may want to remember that when GB won its last playoff game, in Dallas after the 2016 season, the final score was 34-31 and Rodgers had to play like a God to rescue a team with no running attack and a typically terrible defense.

The next week, the Packers got crushed in Atlanta. In fact, the Packers' pathetic defensive performances in their final 7 playoff losses under McCarthy demonstrate just why Cowboy fans need to be focusing on what he intends to do on that side of the ball:

2016 = 493 yards (Atlanta 44-21)
2015 = 368 yards (Arizona, 26-20)
2014 = 397 yards (Seattle, 28-22)
2013= 381 yards (San Francisco, 23-20)
2012 = 579 yards (San Francisco, 45-31)
2011 = 420 yards (New York Giants, 37-20)
2009 = 531 yards (Arizona, 51-45)

Avg = 452 yards and 36 points per playoff loss.

The Packers 2016 NFC Championship loss to the Falcons marked the 3rd time McCarthy's D had given up 44 or more points in a playoff loss.

In over 320 starts in NE, Tom Brady's D has never once given up 44 points.

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Yeah,
Your posts are not falling on deaf ears here or being ignored. Wow. That is definitely not a good historical track record.
I hope this revenge tour second chance that is being played up and the Rodgers haters are taking note that new DC Mike Nolan definitely needs to be more effective than Marinelli in the postseason as it seems that McCarthy's past team's have suffered from the same type of defensive performances(or worse even) than Marinellis.
Sure hope history doesn't repeat itself on that count.
Another great post and insight.

MMObserver said:

For Cowboy fans eager to blame Aaron Rodgers for Green Bay's failure to reach a second Super Bowl under Mike McCarthy you may want to remember that when GB won its last playoff game, in Dallas after the 2016 season, the final score was 34-31 and Rodgers had to play like a God to rescue a team with no running attack and a typically terrible defense.

The next week, the Packers got crushed in Atlanta. In fact, the Packers' pathetic defensive performances in their final 7 playoff losses under McCarthy demonstrate just why Cowboy fans need to be focusing on what he intends to do on that side of the ball:

2016 = 493 yards (Atlanta 44-21)
2015 = 368 yards (Arizona, 26-20)
2014 = 397 yards (Seattle, 28-22)
2013= 381 yards (San Francisco, 23-20)
2012 = 579 yards (San Francisco, 45-31)
2011 = 420 yards (New York Giants, 37-20)
2009 = 531 yards (Arizona, 51-45)

Avg = 452 yards and 36 points per playoff loss.

The Packers 2016 NFC Championship loss to the Falcons marked the 3rd time McCarthy's D had given up 44 or more points in a playoff loss.

In over 320 starts in NE, Tom Brady's D has never once given up 44 points.

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Not to worry though, Big Mike has embraced analytics.

HOF QBs made him. We have to hope Dak becomes that kind of elite Qb or we're screwed!