Why would McCarthy choose Dallas?

gimmesix

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Ya because they had the 5th year option to play with if they needed to. So Wentz took 30m signing bonus and a small salary, better than the approx 20m his 5th year option would have brought him. Cowboys have no such luxury with Dak. With the kind of deal Dak is reportedly asking for 35-40m per season (and who knows how much guaranteed money) the Cowboys can't afford an 8-10m cap hit the 1st season, if they do then the cap hits by the 3rd year will be ridiculous and depending on the amount of guaranteed money they would have a hard time getting out of the deal if they wanted to. At best Dak will have a 15m cap hit for 2020 on any deal he signs probably closer to 20 and that's only if he signs a deal if they tag him his cap hit is going to be approx 32m for 2020

Fifth-year option does not control first-year spending. Dallas sets up its contracts to be heavier the second and third years so that it can do automatic restructures if needed. What matters to the player is the guaranteed money. It doesn't matter if it comes in a signing bonus or base or roster bonuses, as long as it is guaranteed from the start. We're probably talking about $70 million in total guarantees, which Wentz almost got ($66 million) and Wilson got.

The contract can easily be set up like Philly's because the guarantee is all that matters. Players don't really care what that first year really looks like.
 

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Were we so impressed by McCarthy we didn’t interview anyone else except our other token to satisfy Rooney Rule?

For being the most attractive job you’d think we bring all the top prospects in?
If we take Jerry at his word, he had no interest in college coaches. Rivera was gone. He interviewed Lewis and McCarthy. I would have expected him to interview McDaniels, but he’s not a proven HC, and they say McCarthy blew everyone away. Maybe those days with Garrett in meetings made McCarthy shine even brighter.
 

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Because he’s an idiot? Over rated roster and a meddling owner. Jerry probably got him to commit after drinking a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue during their little sleep over.
Most of the NFL media consisting of former players and coaches all say the Cowboys have a talented roster, so I tend to take their opinion over someone at home sitting on their couch. I will give you the meddling owner view
 

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If we take Jerry at his word, he had no interest in college coaches. Rivera was gone. He interviewed Lewis and McCarthy. I would have expected him to interview McDaniels, but he’s not a proven HC, and they say McCarthy blew everyone away. Maybe those days with Garrett in meetings made McCarthy shine even brighter.
Sounds like Jerry was simply attempting to quiten the heat from the media and fans to bring in a proven SB HC not a hot prospect.

And he was only one available that fit criteria. If he doesn’t meet expectations Jerry can say he tried doing it ya’lls way now hiring someone I’m more comfortable with . Jason Witten
 

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Most of the NFL media consisting of former players and coaches all say the Cowboys have a talented roster, so I tend to take their opinion over someone at home sitting on their couch. I will give you the meddling owner view
And most media and sports personalities talk about us going to the Super Bowl every year. 20+ years and counting.

If you’re so inclined to believe the media please go by each position and tell me me who we have that is so talented? As I’ve said, I’ll give the O line credit and even the Ewok (although RB’s are about the most unimportant position) but who else? Please tell me.

Do we have a more talented secondary than most teams? Nope. What about LB’ers? Definitely not. TE’s? Nope. WR’s? Not really unless you count a guy who has led the league in drops, doesn’t show up on road games and has a questionable attitude problem. What about defensive tackles? LOL! What about DE’s? Maybe Quinn but Lawrence has dropped off and there are plenty of other teams with equivalent DE’s. What about our QB? Hahahahahaha....

Yeah, we’re loaded with “talent” :rolleyes: Glad you believe the media instead of your own eyes, Jerry loves fans like
you.
 

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My guess is

-McCarthy's star has faded. He knows he's not going to get any plum HC jobs with talent in place and/or roster control.
-Jerry offers him a chance to get back in the game, with a talented roster, AND an established quarterback, AND offers him playcalling duties.
-The only catch is, you have to work in the Jerry circus, which drives a lot of top candidates away.
-The Cowboys job requires you to basically be a lapdog, and McCarthy, for all his bluster and "tough guy" attitude, is basically a lapdog.

That's why we got rejected by all the top college HCs, and final-round interviewed the consummate owner lapdog himself, Marvin Lewis.

What college coaches "rejected" us? Just because you are bitter you dont get to make up your own facts.

As of this point McCarthy is hiring his staff. I understand history, but hes already proven to have more control than Garrett according to those that believe Garrett was handed a staff he didn't agree with.

Everyone knows Lewis was interviewed for only one reason. Dont play dumb.
 

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There have been all kinds of debates about the Joneses making Mike McCarthy the newest coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Some love the move, some hate it. Some think it was too quick. Some wanted the latest hot name or a college standout instead.

However, last night I started thinking about why McCarthy would want to come to Dallas. After all, there's no doubt that any potential coach had heard plenty about Jerry's meddling ways. The organizational failure of Jones has been discussed pretty much ad nauseam. Choosing Dallas means having to put up with Jerry's hands-all-over approach of owning a team.

McCarthy clearly had other teams interested in interviewing, yet he picked the Cowboys as much as the Cowboys picked him. It could have just been a money thing. It could even be the high-profile nature of the job. However, I think there also could have been a few other reasons.

1) McCarthy, like most of us, could easily see that this team underachieved under Garrett. He's not in a rebuilding situation, but one where he only should need to add a few parts to possibly achieve immediate success.

2) This could probably be added to one because it's saying the same thing: Coaches know they can't win without talent and key pieces are in place here. He doesn't have to find a quarterback. He doesn't have to find a stud running back. He's got four very solid pieces to the offensive line if they can stay healthy. If we bring back Cooper, he's got a very good receiving corps. On offense, the only real questions are starting tight end and left guard (and we got decent play there from both Williams and Su'a-Filo, plus we haven't even seen Connor McGovern yet).

Defense is a little more sketchy. We've got one very good defensive end, two very good linebackers and a few decent secondary players. However, McCarthy is an offensive coach so I'm sure the offense was the draft.

3) Despite all the negatives about Jones, coaches know that he will get them what they ask for. I know the team has changed some on that, going cheaper in free agency, but I feel some of that was influenced by Garrett and his process, and the right coach will be able to produce a shopping list and get Jerry to fill it. If McCarthy tells Jerry that he needs a certain player, I just can't see Jones being able to resist getting him.



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What college coaches "rejected" us? Just because you are bitter you dont get to make up your own facts.

As of this point McCarthy is hiring his staff. I understand history, but hes already proven to have more control than Garrett according to those that believe Garrett was handed a staff he didn't agree with.

Everyone knows Lewis was interviewed for only one reason. Dont play dumb.

If we were just fulfilling the Rooney Rule, why not interview Richard?

As far as college coaches, Jerry's interest in Lincoln Riley was an open secret, and the Urban Meyer rumors didn't come out of nowhere. I have not heard about the Cowboys, but I know that several teams were talking to Matt Rhule, and given Dallas's focus on the other big-name college guys, I would bet he was another name too.
 

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Garrett's record was 85-67 with only one losing season in 9 when Romo was hurt. A third of the teams in the NFL would love to have that record for the next decade.

The other two thirds want championships.
 

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And most media and sports personalities talk about us going to the Super Bowl every year. 20+ years and counting.

If you’re so inclined to believe the media please go by each position and tell me me who we have that is so talented? As I’ve said, I’ll give the O line credit and even the Ewok (although RB’s are about the most unimportant position) but who else? Please tell me.

Do we have a more talented secondary than most teams? Nope. What about LB’ers? Definitely not. TE’s? Nope. WR’s? Not really unless you count a guy who has led the league in drops, doesn’t show up on road games and has a questionable attitude problem. What about defensive tackles? LOL! What about DE’s? Maybe Quinn but Lawrence has dropped off and there are plenty of other teams with equivalent DE’s. What about our QB? Hahahahahaha....

Yeah, we’re loaded with “talent” :rolleyes: Glad you believe the media instead of your own eyes, Jerry loves fans like
you.

I think its fair to give the WRS credit as well. It didn't end well but Coop is still a great receiver and Gallup with 2 years in the league already has a 1k season. Honestly that's the majority of the offense.

There's currently no objective way to argue in favor of the defense. There is talent there, but to what extent? I need to see what some size on the Dline and a real safety can do. My favorite part of the Nolan hiring was his defenses ability to pick the ball off. It will be interesting.

One thing we can agree on is that these guys aren't nearly as special as they've been made to believe.
 

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56 years old last big paycheck......Should be a doozie as having to kiss Jerry's XXX and putting up with all them Jone's is priceless!

P.S. He knows the word YES and will use it often.....
 

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If we were just fulfilling the Rooney Rule, why not interview Richard?

As far as college coaches, Jerry's interest in Lincoln Riley was an open secret, and the Urban Meyer rumors didn't come out of nowhere. I have not heard about the Cowboys, but I know that several teams were talking to Matt Rhule, and given Dallas's focus on the other big-name college guys, I would bet he was another name too.

Maybe they wanted to gauge Lewis's interest in coaching the defense if not HC? Why not kill two birds with one stone, satify Rooney and recruit a DC?

Urban talked up the job way too much not to interview if we were truly interested. I dont think Riley is going anywhere, but we will see. The FO said they wanted someone with experience and I believe them, because it fits perfectly with Jerry's always believing we are contenders.

Regardless its all speculation and you have zero way of knowing we struck out on all the college coaches. Im sure you were another who said there was no way we could get a coach with any credibility and thats 100% wrong, proven twice now.
 

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I think its fair to give the WRS credit as well. It didn't end well but Coop is still a great receiver and Gallup with 2 years in the league already has a 1k season. Honestly that's the majority of the offense.

There's currently no objective way to argue in favor of the defense. There is talent there, but to what extent? I need to see what some size on the Dline and a real safety can do. My favorite part of the Nolan hiring was his defenses ability to pick the ball off. It will be interesting.

One thing we can agree on is that these guys aren't nearly as special as they've been made to believe.
That’s kinda my point though. A lot of teams can say they have talent but to what extent? A couple WR’s, a RB and the O line hardly make the Cowboys that much more talented than a lot of other teams. The WR’s are still questionable IMO, definitely slightly above average but not great. A RB is hardly a position of importance in today’s league, multiple teams have tandem RB’s that are very successful but don’t have the total yards that Zeke supporters love to flaunt.

There were more than a couple games this year that we lost not due to coaching but due to our over rated players being out played. The last Philadelphia game comes immediately to mind.
 

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That’s kinda my point though. A lot of teams can say they have talent but to what extent? A couple WR’s, a RB and the O line hardly make the Cowboys that much more talented than a lot of other teams. The WR’s are still questionable IMO, definitely slightly above average but not great. A RB is hardly a position of importance in today’s league, multiple teams have tandem RB’s that are very successful but don’t have the total yards that Zeke supporters love to flaunt.

There were more than a couple games this year that we lost not due to coaching but due to our over rated players being out played. The last Philadelphia game comes immediately to mind.

If you rank Dak in the top half of NFL qbs we are loaded on OFFENSE. Most teams do not have our offensive talent. Defense is what pulls us back towards mediocrity imo. That said I still believe we have talent on defense, but need coaching to exploit that talent. Its impossible to evaluate players not put in a position to succeed. If I dont see a return to form from the defense next season I will be right there with you. We have to add some DTs and a real safety. Im still open to making a trade for Jamal Adams.
 

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Well, this is what one article said was the reason:

“It was like love at first sight,” a source with knowledge of the dynamics between Jones and McCarthy said when explaining the quick move by the Cowboys to make McCarthy the new head coach.

that can’t be a good thing honestly....the coach we need is one that will probably rub Jerry the wrong way at a min or pizz him off completely
 

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I knew about the other interviews. Wonder why they didn’t make him an offer?

Not very good at this are you? LOL

Your Garrett love biased is so obvious. Always pushing the negative agenda with McCarthy, always assuming the worst. According to you McCarthy needs to win a SB in two years or gets fired and nobody was interested in him. And don't continue to lie, you had NO idea about the interviews.

Could be any number of reasons. Maybe both decided it wasn't the right fit. I'm sure on some he wasn't interested and on others they thought going in another direction was the way to go.
 

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Did anyone else offer him a job?

He interviewed with every team that had a job opening except the Commanders. He had two interviews with the Panthers. I'm just guessing but I think the Panthers would have picked him up or he already had an offer.

I think the fact he was in hot demand is why Dallas jumped on him quick.
 

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If we were just fulfilling the Rooney Rule, why not interview Richard?

As far as college coaches, Jerry's interest in Lincoln Riley was an open secret, and the Urban Meyer rumors didn't come out of nowhere. I have not heard about the Cowboys, but I know that several teams were talking to Matt Rhule, and given Dallas's focus on the other big-name college guys, I would bet he was another name too.

A few things here:

  1. I don't think the Cowboys were satisfied with Richard's performance enough to be HC. He really showed nothing during the season, otherwise they may have replaced Garrett with Richard after the second 3 game losing streak meltdown. I remember Jerry implying there was not a viable candidate on staff to replace Garrett during the season. I just don't think the Joneses were thrilled with him.
  2. Marvin Lewis and Stephen Jones were on the NFL competition committee together. Also Marvin Lewis and McCarthy are good friends. McCarthy talks about Marvin in the McCarthy project video.
  3. I'm just guessing here but I think McCarthy had Marvin on a short list for staff and the Joneses thought let's bring him in for a visit. There's a lot of familiarity between Stephen. Marvin, and McCarthy. And I think Marvin wants to coach again as HC.
  4. The Joneses didn't want a college coach who had to ramp up to learn the NFL process. There appears to be a trend this year where teams want a coach that does not need an NFL learning curve, especially if you have a roster of talent ready to win now. Even Rhule has NFL experience, although the Panthers aren't really ready to win now. I think Cleveland will pick a coach with NFL experience.

One thing I noticed is it seems pretty clear that Stephen drove a lot of this process, with Jerry just stamping approval.
 
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