McCarthy QB School

LittleD · Jan 10, 2020

Dak_Attack_09 said:
Good enough for 5,000 yds and 30 TDs, if Dak had Rodgers’s defense things would be lot different.

Stats are for losers. Championships and Super Bowls define great QB's.

AbeBeta · Jan 10, 2020

OmerV said:
Why can’t people simply think Dak isn’t the right guy without this kind of nonsensical exaggeration? Of course Dak isn’t as good as Rodgers, but a scrub? 306 passing yards and 27 points per game worth of scrub? The standard isn’t either elite like Rodgers or scrub, with nothing in between.

This isn't and has always never been about Dak's play.

jchap2k · Jan 10, 2020

sean10mm said:
Those aren't intangibles, you can literally see and measure all of those things. They're basically all learned skills - literally the things that coaching is for!

I don't know what Dak's ceiling is but you l literally just named things that are all stuff coaches are supposed to teach players how to do.

Rodgers was absolutely appalling in all those things coming out of college and had to be reprogrammed, people only miss this because he didn't start for years.

Was about to post the same thing. I think the word intangibles has a misunderstood meaning from some of our fine posters

CWR · Jan 10, 2020

black label said:
Man I like the signing but Dak is still a scrub that will never win a an unfortunately. Dak dreams he can play a fifth of Rodgers

Whether we sign Dak long term or tag him will say a lot about MMs opinion of him. If he gets a contract it should mean MM believes in him. I cant imagine MM tying himself to Dak if he doesn't think he can play.

CWR · Jan 10, 2020

OmerV said:
Why can’t people simply think Dak isn’t the right guy without this kind of nonsensical exaggeration? Of course Dak isn’t as good as Rodgers, but a scrub? 306 passing yards and 27 points per game worth of scrub? The standard isn’t either elite like Rodgers or scrub, with nothing in between.

The way posters on this board speak in absolutes is ridiculous. You are 100% correct. Dak has done too much already to be labeled a scrub. That said he needs to get better and become more consistent. It will be interesting to see this staff work with him.

On a side note I like Dak and have hope he can become the player we need. I remember all to well the era of Quincy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson and an over the hill Drew Bledsoe. It was an awful time to be a Cowboys fan, consequently Im not eager to give up on a qb that has shown flashes and been very good at times.

Redball Express · Jan 10, 2020

black label said:
Man I like the signing but Dak is still a scrub that will never win a an unfortunately. Dak dreams he can play a fifth of Rodgers

You like the rest of us know that if the right scheme is married to the right player..

Great things can happen.

Dak and McCarthy maybe a great marrage.

Trying to judge Dak under Garrett is just impossible to decide where Dak is in his ability.

It will take the off season and most of the coming regular season to see how it works.

Stop with all the snap judgements.

CyberB0b · Jan 10, 2020

AmariChill said:
No doubt this will help Dak. However, he has too many intangibles to fix IMO. Inaccuracy, footwork, timing, throwing in stride, etc. basic QB fundamentals.

Those are all tangible skills.

cowboyec · Jan 10, 2020

Section446 said:
Dak isn't remotely close to Rodgers and the team know it.

he doesn't have to be.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 10, 2020

AmariChill said:
No doubt this will help Dak. However, he has too many intangibles to fix IMO. Inaccuracy, footwork, timing, throwing in stride, etc. basic QB fundamentals. Despite the people around him underperforming from time to time, he had an all star cast. Zeke, a top 5 RB every year he’s been in the NFL. A 4 time pro-bowl WR in Cooper, who may not show up on the road, but is still a good WR. (Also, Cowboys Break made a good point about this. Besides D-Hop and Michael Thomas. Maybe Mike Evans or Julio Jones, what WR puts up 100 yard numbers every game? Not many. Amari is not the elite of the elite, buts he’s still good. Gallup was pretty good this year minus a few drops. Same as Cobb. O-line was great at pass blocking, yet Dak still fell off after the Pats game. Despite all that he had going for him, he failed to score on consecutive drives when we were down 31-3 against the Packers. Blame the Defense all you want, but Dak didn’t score when the Pack score 7-3, 14-3, 21-3, etc. Same as the Bears and Bills game. He failed to score a TD in the 2nd Philly game (he claims his injury didn’t bother him so I don’t want that excuse). Didn’t score one against the Pats. Or the Saints.

Bottom line: Dak isn’t our answer. He could make a great backup, and I’m sure he’s a nice dude, but we’re looking to pay for a franchise QB, not a nice dude with average football skills.

How on earth is Dak even in the league with all these flaws. Sheesh.

MysteryIceGuro · Jan 10, 2020

rocyaice said:
How on earth is Dak even in the league with all these flaws. Sheesh.

He's in the league because he's talented at football. Same can be said for the likes of Nathan Peterman. Does that mean he needs to be a starter and paid 35+ mil? No. It doesn't. Everyone who makes it to the NFL is talented, but I'm comparing Dak to other QB's and other players in the NFL, and compared to them, his talent is average/mediocre.

xwalker · Jan 10, 2020

black label said:
Man I like the signing but Dak is still a scrub that will never win a an unfortunately. Dak dreams he can play a fifth of Rodgers

Most fans are morons...you don't need to keep posting to prove it...oh well keep posting...the Cleveland Browns keep playing football games...

Proof · Jan 10, 2020

black label said:
Man I like the signing but Dak is still a scrub that will never win a an unfortunately. Dak dreams he can play a fifth of Rodgers

foolishness. he's not A-rod, but really who is? A scrub? you sound like a buffoon.

Proof · Jan 10, 2020

AmariChill said:
He's in the league because he's talented at football. Same can be said for the likes of Nathan Peterman. Does that mean he needs to be a starter and paid 35+ mil? No. It doesn't. Everyone who makes it to the NFL is talented, but I'm comparing Dak to other QB's and other players in the NFL, and compared to them, his talent is average/mediocre.

Weird how he wins more, has better stats by nearly any metric, turns the ball over less, rushes more, etc etc than most of the qb's in the league. guess it's just dumb luck

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 10, 2020

AmariChill said:
He's in the league because he's talented at football. Same can be said for the likes of Nathan Peterman. Does that mean he needs to be a starter and paid 35+ mil? No. It doesn't. Everyone who makes it to the NFL is talented, but I'm comparing Dak to other QB's and other players in the NFL, and compared to them, his talent is average/mediocre.

What other quarterbacks are you comparing him to? Because only one person had more yards than him and only 3 guys had more touchdowns than him and only 3 guys had a higher QBR than him.

Something just isn’t adding up. He’s been in the league 4 years....we are kind of past him just being in the league because he’s “talented”.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 10, 2020

Proof said:
Weird how he wins more, has better stats by nearly any metric, turns the ball over less, rushes more, etc etc than most of the qb's in the league. guess it's just dumb luck

Right lol. That’s what I’m getting to. With all of those imaginary flaws he has.....he sure seems to do pretty good in comparison to the people around his age.

Proof · Jan 10, 2020

rocyaice said:
Right lol. That’s what I’m getting to. With all of those imaginary flaws he has.....he sure seems to do pretty good in comparison to the people around his age.

it's crazy as hell to me watching our fanbase not only discount everything he's done in 4 years to say he completely sucks. I don't get it. MOST of his supporters can objectively admit he's played poorly, had bad stretches etc, and there has been cause for concern at times, but the detractors can't even acknowledge basic truths. bizarro world.

Redball Express · Jan 10, 2020

CyberB0b said:
Those are all tangible skills.

Dak was rough coming out of college.

We have had trouble getting solid support for him with coaches.

For the first time after 4 years there is enough body of work to really study things.

McCarthy impresses me as somebody who will demand it of his coaches and players alike.

We will see. Some players will improve, others not.

jday · Jan 10, 2020

OmerV said:
Why can’t people simply think Dak isn’t the right guy without this kind of nonsensical exaggeration?

In every fanbase, both sides of the bell-curve are strongly represented...and the Cowboys have more fans than any other sports franchise in the world, so....based on that, we have the smartest and the dumbest contributors, dependent on which post you are reading at the time.

MysteryIceGuro · Jan 10, 2020

Proof said:
Weird how he wins more, has better stats by nearly any metric, turns the ball over less, rushes more, etc etc than most of the qb's in the league. guess it's just dumb luck

As I said before, first of all, his stats are inflated by garbage time stats.
2nd of all, look at the team around him! How can he not win with these people? Bad thing is, as soon as one of these people goes down with injury or have a bad game, they lose. Look at the Jets game as an example. Or his first few games last season without Amari.

SackMaster · Jan 10, 2020

LittleD said:
Stats are for losers. Championships and Super Bowls define great QB's.

Does that mean Eli with 2 rings, both against the GOAT no less, is better than Rodgers, Brees, Wilson, Young, Farve, Warner and Unitas, who all only have 1 ring?
:huh:

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