Video: Are you a Dak fan or a Cowboys fan

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You have to be the biggest idiot on this planet!

Amari Cooper is so overrated it’s not even funny.. Dak made him ,clown

You still salty Dak couldn’t do nothing with that overrated guy in your Avi.

Amari Cooper was a top 5 pick in the draft and absolutely oozes with talent.

He’s played better with Dak but Dak did not make him. The guy gets himself wide open.

When he couldn’t the whole offense struggled. Why didn’t we score a single touchdown against Philadelphia?
 

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You have to be the biggest idiot on this planet!

Amari Cooper is so overrated it’s not even funny.. Dak made him ,clown

You still salty Dak couldn’t do nothing with that overrated guy in your Avi.

Seriously? Dak was 3-5 without Amari and everyone complained he had no help. He went on to win 7 straight with Amari. Amari helped HIM. Not the other way around. Now Amari’s the bum lmao.
 

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i’m a cowboys fan that wants to see the team win a super bowl who recognizes that paying dak the money he wants would make the super bowl dream very difficult! no offense to dak!

i would love to do what the titans are doing and sign a teddy bridgewater type and invest heavily in defense! go for a run with that type of team while the cowboys still have the oline and zeke!

This video starts with what I think the problem is now... the high cap cost. QBs are outdistancing the other positions in contracts. Teams are paying QBs like Alex Smith, Derek Carr and Joe Flacco more than the best at any position in the NFL.

So if you do bank on the wrong guy, it kills you more than it ever did just ten years ago, and it becomes very tempting to think you can gamble on a hidden gem, especially with all the parity. I would argue the parity still makes it that more important because it guarantees a decade of winning records and Super Bowl chances if you pick the right talent.

The Titans didn't choose to go cheap with Mariota, he did it to himself. They spent one of the highest draft picks available and waited years for him to develop. The Titans wanted him to succeed. Parting ways with him was a complete loss.

You may not need a franchise QB to win the Super Bowl, but it sure as hell helps. The last 15 years of Super Bowl champs - Brady, the Mannings (yes, both of them!), Brees, Wilson, Rogers, Roethlisberger. You have a Flacco and Foles sitting in there, but everyone else was treated long-term.

It's also not as easy to find a hidden gem like Bridgewater or Tannehill. And once you find that stable QB, assuming he's not a one year wonder, he's eventually coming to your front door and asking for his payday. You can't survive just trying to find a random QB every 2 years.

And the other thing I would think is easily forgotten in this age of Madden and instant gratification, is it took time for all those guys above to develop, some much quicker than others. If I was a head coach, I don't want my team limited because I'm still waiting on that development. Garrett knew Romo was a better QB in Dak's rookie year, he just chose to ride the hot hand and I really don't blame him.

So again... it goes back to the first question. Do I trust this guy? Do I trust him to take the $30-$40 million and become better? Dak has proven he has the personal and leadership qualities to succeed. He's made of good stuff. He's our QB, let's run with it. How many offensive coordinators and QB Coaches has he had already in his 4 short years. I keep thinking of TO's Twitter comment (yes, I hate to quote TO) about how many careers in their prime were wasted under these last ten years of coaching regime. Let's hope Big Mike brings it out of him and Zeke who are both now entering their prime.
 

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Alright. I’m not the president of the CLBF. It’s called the Realistically Speaking Cowboys Fan Club. You’re welcomed to join, there’s just a few terms and conditions...
Your turn.
That sounds like a code phrase that actually means something else...like when a guy I work with always refers to his roommate...
 

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It's simple. Tag him.

That’s what I would do, but let me tell you why it’s not so simple, @big dog cowboy ..

If you franchise Dak, you put him in line to get his contract after both Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson. And if you thought $34M per year was expensive, signing him in 2021 almost definitely puts you into $40M+ territory.

Now, I say tag him because this is the best quarterback class in NFL history and teams win titles before their quarterback gets their second contract in today’s NFL.

I say tag him, draft your QB (even if you have to trade up, though you probably don’t), then play your kid after he has a year to sit on the bench. You might even tag him twice if you think your QB prospect needs two years.

But if that’s NOT your plan, then signing Dak immediately is what should be done.
 

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This video starts with what I think the problem is now... the high cap cost. QBs are outdistancing the other positions in contracts. Teams are paying QBs like Alex Smith, Derek Carr and Joe Flacco more than the best at any position in the NFL.

So if you do bank on the wrong guy, it kills you more than it ever did just ten years ago, and it becomes very tempting to think you can gamble on a hidden gem, especially with all the parity. I would argue the parity still makes it that more important because it guarantees a decade of winning records and Super Bowl chances if you pick the right talent.

The Titans didn't choose to go cheap with Mariota, he did it to himself. They spent one of the highest draft picks available and waited years for him to develop. The Titans wanted him to succeed. Parting ways with him was a complete loss.

You may not need a franchise QB to win the Super Bowl, but it sure as hell helps. The last 15 years of Super Bowl champs - Brady, the Mannings (yes, both of them!), Brees, Wilson, Rogers, Roethlisberger. You have a Flacco and Foles sitting in there, but everyone else was treated long-term.

It's also not as easy to find a hidden gem like Bridgewater or Tannehill. And once you find that stable QB, assuming he's not a one year wonder, he's eventually coming to your front door and asking for his payday. You can't survive just trying to find a random QB every 2 years.

And the other thing I would think is easily forgotten in this age of Madden and instant gratification, is it took time for all those guys above to develop, some much quicker than others. If I was a head coach, I don't want my team limited because I'm still waiting on that development. Garrett knew Romo was a better QB in Dak's rookie year, he just chose to ride the hot hand and I really don't blame him.

So again... it goes back to the first question. Do I trust this guy? Do I trust him to take the $30-$40 million and become better? Dak has proven he has the personal and leadership qualities to succeed. He's made of good stuff. He's our QB, let's run with it. How many offensive coordinators and QB Coaches has he had already in his 4 short years. I keep thinking of TO's Twitter comment (yes, I hate to quote TO) about how many careers in their prime were wasted under these last ten years of coaching regime. Let's hope Big Mike brings it out of him and Zeke who are both now entering their prime.
QBs are still getting about 15 to 17 percent of the cap. The QB contracts are bigger because the cap has increased...
 

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I’m a Dak Fan...

If he leaves I’m with him and I’m rooting for the Cowboys to lose every game they play!

Teams Dak would improve
Colts
Vikings
Raiders
49ers
Steelers
Saints
Titans
 

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That sounds like a code phrase that actually means something else...like when a guy I work with always refers to his roommate...

You didn’t answer my questions. How disappointing. Much like Dak’s play in the later half of this season. Again, I will ask these questions

1. Are you actually a Dak employee?
2. How large is your Dak shrine and how much is it worth?
 

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He could check down more and do less and completion percentages would go up so yes. He would become more “accurate”.

Going from 60 to 63-65% with Zeke and our Oline wouldn’t be difficult.
I don’t care about his completion I care about him turning the football over. If all he’s going to do is be a game manager you might want to aim hire. Probably get someone who’ll throw less than 10 picks for starters.
 

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I don’t care about his completion I care about him turning the football over. If all he’s going to do is be a game manager you might want to aim hire. Probably get someone who’ll throw less than 10 picks for starters.

I really do think the Oline and Zeke would cut down his turnover dramatically because he would be asked to do less.

Winston wouldn’t be my first choice though. I’m not a fan of his at all and Dak is a better player then him.

But Winston at 15 million vs Dak at 35? I mean come on... Dak is not 20 mill better.

Daks contract is the cause of this entire debate. His ability doesn’t match that number.
 

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QBs are still getting about 15 to 17 percent of the cap. The QB contracts are bigger because the cap has increased...

These guys are being guaranteed $40-$80 million on a $188 million cap. That's all one cap hit if you have to change direction. Yeah, I know, they can split it and all the other tricks but that's still a scary number for someone so I can see why it makes some people hesitant.

But like I wrote, I still think it's a risk worth taking because the consequences of going coach to coach, offense to offense, waiting a year here and there for development, are not worth as much as banking on that player that may not show Mahones skills (Who the heck does??) but can easily reach a great career the same way Brees, Eli, Wilson, Roethlisberger and others did through constant development.
 

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I really do think the Oline and Zeke would cut down his turnover dramatically because he would be asked to do less.

Winston wouldn’t be my first choice though. I’m not a fan of his at all and Dak is a better player then him.

But Winston at 15 million vs Dak at 35? I mean come on... Dak is not 20 mill better.

Daks contract is the cause of this entire debate. His ability doesn’t match that number.

He’s better than the two QBs from the same draft class that already received extensions.
 

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He is average . Tag him and give McCarthy time to evaluate him and other alternatives
 

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I really do think the Oline and Zeke would cut down his turnover dramatically because he would be asked to do less.

Winston wouldn’t be my first choice though. I’m not a fan of his at all and Dak is a better player then him.

But Winston at 15 million vs Dak at 35? I mean come on... Dak is not 20 mill better.

Daks contract is the cause of this entire debate. His ability doesn’t match that number.
Yeah he’s definitely 20 million better when you factor in he’s had Godwin, Evans, Brate and Howard to throw to. Makes you wonder how you F up throwing to them.
 

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Don't see how we're going to do better than Prescott.

People say we should try to get Jameis Winston instead - how much would that cost? Pry $25M or a little more? Kirk Cousins got 3 years, $27M a year, 100% guaranteed two seasons ago, and he was well known to be a middle-of-the-road quarterback back then.

It's tough to price Jameis because A. there is no quarterback middle class in the NFL, 90% of them are either making >$20M as starters or <$5M as backups, and B. so few starting-caliber quarterbacks ever hit the open market. Probably the closest thing to a "middle class" QB contract you're going to see is Jacoby Brissett getting 2 years $30M from the Colts this season. I think anyone here would agree that Jameis is worth a lot more than Brissett.

So say Jameis ends up with a $25M per year asking price in free agency: $10M up from Brissett, $10M down from the current top of the market. You're saying that paying $25M a year to gamble on a guy that you hope doesn't continue to be an interception machine is better than paying $35M for a guy who played like a top 10 quarterback in 2019? I've got to disagree with that.
 
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