Should I Be Worried About GB's Success Right After McCarthy Is Fired?

pgreptom · Jan 13, 2020

The home team has won that matchup every game - didn't they say that on the broadcast?

Greenbay wins next week and it might catch my radar but I still won't be 'worried'. A coach usually goes as far as his QB can take him

Loso86 · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
That whole time we heard from Rodgers is being held back by McCarthy. Soon after he is fired, they are back in the NFC championship with a coach with no real experience. I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of their break up but the fact is, they are back to the top of the NFC right after he left.

And I was a big fan of the hire fyi.

Umm they had the same success while he was there to soooooo.

TexasHillbilly · Jan 13, 2020

AmariChill said:
Correlation does not always equal causation my friend. Remember that.

That's what I told my wife when she got pregnant. :laugh:

kumizi · Jan 13, 2020

Redline360 · Jan 13, 2020

Packers actually invested in a defense to which was the achilles heel for them for years.

Rodgers doesn't need to put up 4tds every game now

cmoney23 · Jan 13, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
The Eagles last season with Andy Reid. They went 4-12.

the next season they went 10-6 and made the playoffs with Chip friggin Kelly as their head coach.

did that mean Andy wasn’t a good coach?

Obviously we will know a lot more when the season begins.

Excellent reply

CouchCoach · Jan 13, 2020

The addition of FA's, the Smith's, is the reason they're in the NFCCG. The question is if he were still there, would they have picked up both or either?

rnr_honeybadger · Jan 13, 2020

GB philosophy under McCarthy was way different than it is now. Can you think of any significant free agent signing under McCarthys tenure?

Hennessy_King · Jan 13, 2020

Rodgers complained about Lafleur's system as well this year. He finally got in line and the team started winning. Also their defense has been pretty good this year

Redball Express · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
That whole time we heard from Rodgers is being held back by McCarthy. Soon after he is fired, they are back in the NFC championship with a coach with no real experience. I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of their break up but the fact is, they are back to the top of the NFC right after he left.

And I was a big fan of the hire fyi.

Rodgers is the difference.

Not McCarthy as much.

IMO.

He is the constant.

He throws a pass completion 40+ yds like he always does late in games to pull it out.

He is just leprechaun lucky that way.

Can't explain it.

Staubach was the same for us.

So things tend to even out.

You can be sure the Packers opponents will be looking at this strongly for this week's game.

They better.

CouchCoach · Jan 13, 2020

Big Mike is an unknown, make that the new and improved Big Mike. His spin was what he has learned in being off in one season and how to apply that to the Cowboys. I am wait and see with him but an improvement over Garrett already.

SacredStar · Jan 13, 2020

I wouldn't be worried. Dallas needed a change regardless and McCarthy is a seasoned coach. As far as GB being one game from the SB, there are better defensively which has helped to get them there. I've watched almost every game and they were very lucky to get 13 regular season wins. The ball bounced their way more than anything else. Just look at their last regular season game against Detroit. They barely beat a 3-12 team playing with a 3rd string qb in Lambeau. They needed the entire 60 minutes to come back and win at the end. They are the luckiest team I've watched all season.

CATCH17 · Jan 13, 2020

Mike McCarthy is a product of the QB talent he has coached and not the quality of coach he is.

Rodgers is currently proving that.

xwalker · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
That whole time we heard from Rodgers is being held back by McCarthy. Soon after he is fired, they are back in the NFC championship with a coach with no real experience. I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of their break up but the fact is, they are back to the top of the NFC right after he left.

And I was a big fan of the hire fyi.

They also changed out the GM...

Blackspider214 · Jan 13, 2020

DakPresgoat said:
There are risks involved sure.

a couple of things though.

1. McCarthy’s recent struggles, other than last season, were during times where Rodgers was missing a bunch of games or playing hurt and limited.

2. The Packers went out and got a defense this past off season with a bunch of free agent pick ups.

It may be a sign that McCarthy isn’t all that. It may also just be what it is.

I’ll provide an example that may put your mind at ease.

The eagles last season with Andy Reid. They went 4-12.

the next season they went 10-6 and made the playoffs with Chip friggin Kelly as their head coach.

did that mean Andy wasn’t a good coach?

Obviously we will know a lot more when the season begins.

The Andy Reid situation is not exactly the same situation here. For one, Andy Reid had a washed up Vick. Chip Kelly came in and got his guy Nick Foles.

They have the same QB for both McCarthy and now LaFleur. That is kind of my point with this post. If it was a whole new QB he brought in, I wouldn't think anything of it. Rodgers complains about McCarthy. He gets replaced and they go right back to winning not long after. That kind of gives Rodger's complaints more validity when that happens. And it isn't even just about winning the playoff game. It's about the whole season. They won 12 or 13 games.

johneric8 · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
That whole time we heard from Rodgers is being held back by McCarthy. Soon after he is fired, they are back in the NFC championship with a coach with no real experience. I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of their break up but the fact is, they are back to the top of the NFC right after he left.

And I was a big fan of the hire fyi.

My father taught me alot and one of the things he taught me was to worrying about something you can't control is a wasted emotion and stupid. Sitting around and dreaming up scenarios that may or may not happen based on a blueprint that doesn't have much to do with the present is a losers mentality. There are far more positives right at this moment for this team than negatives even if you don't choose to see them.

Look at it like this, I want Urban Meyer, but truth be told he could of got the position and we might of found out that his coaching style doesn't work in the NFL. We might also found out that his scheme was too bland. No guarantees for any of these coaches because of all the variables. Make no mistake about it, any coach having to work with Jerry Jones is going to have some struggles, so all we can do at this point is be positive about the changes that are taking place.

We got a coach with experience and a winning pedigree. We have a coach whom is proven to be helpful to Qb's. We also have a guy whom is motivated to show what he can do.

HungryLion · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
The Andy Reid situation is not exactly the same situation here. For one, Andy Reid had a washed up Vick. Chip Kelly came in and got his guy Nick Foles.

They have the same QB for both McCarthy and now LaFleur. That is kind of my point with this post. If it was a whole new QB he brought in, I wouldn't think anything of it. Rodgers complains about McCarthy. He gets replaced and they go right back to winning not long after. That kind of gives Rodger's complaints more validity when that happens. And it isn't even just about winning the playoff game. It's about the whole season. They won 12 or 13 games.

Of course the situations aren’t exactly the same.

The Packers situation isn’t exactly the same this season, as it was last season. As evidenced by how many new starting players they have. Particularly in defense.

Nick Foles was with Andy Reid in Philadelphia. Andy Reid drafted Foles. Foles wasn’t “chip Kelly’s guy”.

Both Reid’s last season and chips first season began with Vick as the starter and then Foles playing once Vick got hurt.

Stash · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
That whole time we heard from Rodgers is being held back by McCarthy. Soon after he is fired, they are back in the NFC championship with a coach with no real experience. I don't pretend to know the ins and outs of their break up but the fact is, they are back to the top of the NFC right after he left.

And I was a big fan of the hire fyi.

I think it’s a possible concern. I mentioned it when his name was first mentioned. This was the only first year coach that had success.

Cowfan75 · Jan 13, 2020

ultron said:
Here's their wins against teams with a winning record this regular season:

Vikings
Chiefs (without Mahomes)

Post-season:
Seahawks (1 man show; Russel Wilson) <-- I think the Seahawks were the 2nd worst team in the playoffs behind the Eagles. Their defense is cheeks and all 3 of their running backs got hurt at the end of the season.

The Packers also added Z'Darius Smith, Preston smith, and Adrian Amos which completely changed their defense & Aaron Jones was their best offensive player in my opinion.

The Packers have an insanely easy schedule next year.

I think the Packers are the most overrated team in the playoffs this year. If not for a controversial call at the end of the game, Seattle has a legit shot to complete a comeback, and that's a one-man team, as you mentioned. Packers get smoked in San Fran.

garyo1954 · Jan 13, 2020

Blackspider214 said:
Rodgers complains about McCarthy. He gets replaced and they go right back to winning not long after. That kind of gives Rodger's complaints more validity when that happens. And it isn't even just about winning the playoff game. It's about the whole season. They won 12 or 13 games.

Aaron never said Big Mc was a bad coach. If he did say it, I missed in the 100s(?) of pages I've read.

What Aaron did say was the offense had gotten stale.
And what Mike came to realize is that's true. He began to rely on the same pet plays and got lazy in the use of motion, formations and bunches. He got comfy and relied on his diminishing talent which wasn't being replenished by Ted Thompson.

So Mike gets mad when Aaron changes play.
Aaron is mad because he is asked to run a play the defense knows is coming.

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