RELEASED Woicik will not return as S&C Coach

iceberg · Jan 14, 2020

ClappingCarrot said:
The cleansing of the Garrett guys continues!

Cowboys!

i thought jones picked everyone?

iceberg · Jan 14, 2020

Tabascocat said:
Spaulding better be on alert, he might be next!

he's busy picking his nose. $10 says he eats it.

DuncanIso · Jan 14, 2020

ShiningStar said:
LOVE IT

wow i figured MM would bump a few, but this, this is great.

Get em all out MM.

why are the getting rid of coaches with super bowl resumes?

DuncanIso · Jan 14, 2020

ykc said:
Kellen will get HC job in college next year and this is going to be his last year

agree.

I’m surprised he stayed.

fairviewfarmer · Jan 14, 2020

When it comes to the Offense, McCarthy will install it, and call it. Kellen Moore won't have the keys to the offense. Basing this off of McCarthy's past Method of Operations.

nobody · Jan 14, 2020

stasheroo said:
I'm not sure about this move, but if it's the new coach's decision, I'll allow it.

Given how this team always seems out of condition when it matters, or puts muscles on WR's who don't need it, I approve this move. Maybe there will be fewer injuries, too.

nobody · Jan 14, 2020

CATCH17 said:
That is actually shocking.

I like it though but our teams have remained relatively healthy every season but I do question the program when Zeke looks way to freaking big and all his explosion is gone.

Our players got gassed like and pulled themselves out of critical plays in important games to get a breather. That's on conditioning. What use is extra muscles if you have zero stamina?

Stash · Jan 14, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
Given how this team always seems out of condition when it matters, or puts muscles on WR's who don't need it, I approve this move. Maybe there will be fewer injuries, too.

Who had "fewer injuries" than the Cowboys did last year?

Teriffic overall health is yet another in the long list of advantages and opportunities that Garrett squandered in 2019. The football gods smiled on this team, and yet the fools running it said "no thanks!"

nobody · Jan 14, 2020

stasheroo said:
Who had "fewer injuries" than the Cowboys did last year?

Teriffic overall health is yet another in the long list of advantages and opportunities that Garrett squandered in 2019. The football gods smiled on this team, and yet the fools running it said "no thanks!"

One year. How long has that dude been here? How many of our players played with injuries too? They just didn't get taken out for them. How come they kept taking themselves out because they were tired? That especially is irksome in a critical game. That is on conditioning. At some point you need to focus on endurance at the expense of a little muscle mass. But they seemed to focus on muscle mass at the expense of endurance.

Stash · Jan 14, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
One year. How long has that dude been here? How many of our players played with injuries too? They just didn't get taken out for them. How come they kept taking themselves out because they were tired? That especially is irksome in a critical game. That is on conditioning. At some point you need to focus on endurance at the expense of a little muscle mass. But they seemed to focus on muscle mass at the expense of endurance.

You keep coming back to this "taking themselves out" business. What are you talking about?

nobody · Jan 14, 2020

stasheroo said:
You keep coming back to this "taking themselves out" business. What are you talking about?

Business? It's only been discussed all season. Players were taking themselves out of the game to take a play or two off because they were tired. That's fine on occasion, but it happened a lot more this season. Especially with a certain RB.
Of course, this is why depth is important as is rotation, but the players were doing it in important moments of critical games.

They didn't have the needed conditioning that they should have had at that point in the season. They have X amount of time because of the CBA to practice, train, condition, etc. So if they spend more time on building muscle mass, that's less time on endurance-building. They're completely different activities. A lot of critical players have focused too much on muscle mass at the expense of endurance-building. Why is that? Well, they just released the strength and conditioning coach... is there correlation there?

Montanalo · Jan 14, 2020

If I was Mickey Spags, I would be worried

Stash · Jan 14, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
Business? It's only been discussed all season. Players were taking themselves out of the game to take a play or two off because they were tired. That's fine on occasion, but it happened a lot more this season. Especially with a certain RB.
Of course, this is why depth is important as is rotation, but the players were doing it in important moments of critical games.

Then save it for a thread about the running back. It has nothing to do with the strength and conditioning coach. He wasn't pulling them out.

They didn't have the needed conditioning that they should have had at that point in the season. They have X amount of time because of the CBA to practice, train, condition, etc. So if they spend more time on building muscle mass, that's less time on endurance-building. They're completely different activities. A lot of critical players have focused too much on muscle mass at the expense of endurance-building. Why is that? Well, they just released the strength and conditioning coach... is there correlation there?

None. This is a really huge leap of logic in trying to connect the two things.

Stash · Jan 14, 2020

ColoCowboy said:
If I was Mickey Spags, I would be worried

Don't tease me like that!
:angry:

nobody · Jan 14, 2020

stasheroo said:
Then save it for a thread about the running back. It has nothing to do with the strength and conditioning coach. He wasn't pulling them out.

None. This is a really huge leap of logic in trying to connect the two things.

...actually, it isn't a leap of logic. It was HIS JOB to determine what each player was doing and needed. That was LITERALLY his job.

Stash · Jan 14, 2020

DeathMonkey said:
...actually, it isn't a leap of logic. It was HIS JOB to determine what each player was doing and needed. That was LITERALLY his job.

Which has NOTHING to do with who, when, and where someone takes themselves out of a game. Nothing. Your attempt to connect the dots fails.

Iago33 · Jan 14, 2020

VaqueroTD said:
I don't know what I believe sometimes in the media with these behind closed door reports, but from everything I read, it did sound like Woicik was a big behind-the-scenes promoter of that "Go straight to Jerry" culture and "We already won because we're a Dallas Cowboy" complacency. If what we read is true, he almost sounded like a worse cancer than some of the coaches.

Interesting. What reporter mentioned that?

quickccc · Jan 14, 2020

VaqueroTD said:
I don't know what I believe sometimes in the media with these behind closed door reports, but from everything I read, it did sound like Woicik was a big behind-the-scenes promoter of that "Go straight to Jerry" culture and "We already won because we're a Dallas Cowboy" complacency. If what we read is true, he almost sounded like a worse cancer than some of the coaches.

Reportedly Woicik himself became the "victim' of the 'Go Straight to Jerry culture', started up by the self centered Deion Sanders, .which led to his departure to the New England Pats.
and where are you reading and getting this 'cancer ' claim from ?

quickccc · Jan 14, 2020

armadillooutlaw said:
Lots of soft tissue injuries, and back problems, too.

name a NFL team that does not have their course of soft tissue injuries and assorted abrasions.

if anything, I've been always amazed that we were not hit as hard with longer term injuries, and the injury reserve related issues.
especially with our front line guys.

And again, I'll go by the testimonies of high heralded players (Michael Irvin) and winning programs (the Pats) that prompt how
Woicik got them through lingering injuries during the course of the season.

quickccc · Jan 14, 2020

CATCH17 said:
That is actually shocking.

I like it though but our teams have remained relatively healthy every season but I do question the program when Zeke looks way to freaking big and all his explosion is gone.

if anything, I like to pay attention to this area if that has been an issue.
But if it's about a training regiment to exclusively add and equip muscle bulk to zeke in an effort to make him much more of a grinder-pounder
then I would also think that's the lead doing of the coaches (RB coach Gary Brown, Garrett)

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