If you're going to sign/franchise Dak, the time to do it is now

Aviano90

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What do you guys think of Watson's performance at KC? Dak would be slammed for that performance. Does he get a pass because he doesn't play for us?
He probably gets a pass because they are not emotionally invested in Watson, who is very inconsistent. What typically happens is another player’s highlights are compared to our player’s lowlights and it is often referred to as “the eye test”.
 

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At one point we could have signed Dak to 30 million a year. But the longer the Cowboys wait, they are going to pay a pretty penny to Dak. Dak has outplayed both Winch and Goff. He is going to use their signing as a benchmark. They should not wait till Maholmes gets signed. It will send mix signals to the team and to Dak that maybe that his not the QB to lead this team.
 

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I’ve been said I don’t go by stats alone sir. You can find many post of me saying so so don’t understand your point. Even if they agree with me they still need to match the on the field play for them to be valid to me. You Dak stans on the other hand know your mans is limited so looking for any stat to hype this Alex Smith clone up.

Not worried about proving you wrong history will most likely do that in due time. Hell I hope I’m wrong for fandom sake because I want to see the Boys win but that doesn’t make me ignore the truth that Dak is averageeeeee

Calling Dak an Alex Smith clone is another swing and a miss. If Dak is average then why doesnt half the league have similar numbers as him as well as wins over the last few years? Bc that's what an average is
 

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12 QB's better than Dak , they were all in the playoffs, so that puts Dak somewhere from 13 to 20 that is not 35-40 mil $$$$$ that Dak is looking for, I have no problem paying Mahomes the $ he wants, but Dak isn't 1/2 the QB he is. Jerry will pay Dak and it will be another bone head Jerry move. Dak is average as QB's go and the record proves it. Do you want to be stuck with Dak for 5 years or try him one more and see, I think one more and see. No matter how it shakes out next year should answer a lot of questions.

Using your logic, his record would only prove that he's a top 3 QB.
 

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Franchise him.

if he still misses those deep crucial game changing passes.
Let him go.


I don't understand this though. Let's say he DOES perform. You're still not going to be confident in paying him Mahomes money. It's going to be an endless cycle. I'd be more comfortable paying him Wentz money than Mahomes money.

I DO believe Prescott is better than Wentz but no where near the level of Mahomes. Hence why if Jerry wants Prescott as his qb, do it now.
 

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At one point we could have signed Dak to 30 million a year. But the longer the Cowboys wait, they are going to pay a pretty penny to Dak. Dak has outplayed both Winch and Goff. He is going to use their signing as a benchmark. They should not wait till Maholmes gets signed.

How do you know it's the Cowboys who are waiting? Those sound like good reasons for Dak's agent to wait.
 

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Here's the real deal. You shouldn't sign a big contract to a QB that is not elite. If you think Dak is elite then it doesn't matter if you sign him today or right before camp. If he's work 30 a year then 35 isn't a big deal either. if you think he's worth 35 then going to 40 isn't a deal breaker and so on. The only question you need to ask and should ask at every position is can you replace him and get somewhat equal production cheaper?
 

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What do you guys think of Watson's performance at KC? Dak would be slammed for that performance. Does he get a pass because he doesn't play for us?

It's a difficult question to answer because Prescott has not played behind an offensive line as horrific as the one Watson played behind vs KC.

When one All-Pro has been taken out of our O-Line, Prescott had made Brian Hoyer look like Tom Brady so who knows what he would have looked like behind the Texans' O-Line!
 

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Calling Dak an Alex Smith clone is another swing and a miss. If Dak is average then why doesnt half the league have similar numbers as him as well as wins over the last few years? Bc that's what an average is

Because half the quarterbacks in the league haven't played behind an O-Line with several All Pros and a strong running game.
 

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Calling Dak an Alex Smith clone is another swing and a miss. If Dak is average then why doesnt half the league have similar numbers as him as well as wins over the last few years? Bc that's what an average is
Nope I knocked that expletive right out the park. Wins are a team stat unless you want to them tell me how Dak with all these wins missed the playoffs two out of the last three years. Stat padding “wins” hell out of here Dak stan. For all his numbers did we have a playoff game? Did the top 4/5 teams with big throwing numbers make or miss the playoffs? Dak as a qb is average as hell but I understand when you aren’t used to good things you can’t tell high caliber stuff when you see it. You’re the type to think the Olive Garden is top level dinning. Up your status my fellow Cowboys fan. Lol
 

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I don't understand this though. Let's say he DOES perform. You're still not going to be confident in paying him Mahomes money. It's going to be an endless cycle. I'd be more comfortable paying him Wentz money than Mahomes money.

I DO believe Prescott is better than Wentz but no where near the level of Mahomes. Hence why if Jerry wants Prescott as his qb, do it now.

Honestly. I like hm.

But he ain’t the future QB.

Jerry should do what most owners can’t do apparently. Let him go!
Break the big money cycle. Draft a QB.

WIN a SB in 3 or 4 years... if not. Let him go! Rinse. Repeat!
 

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Honestly. I like hm.

But he ain’t the future QB.

Jerry should do what most owners can’t do apparently. Let him go!
Break the big money cycle. Draft a QB.

WIN a SB in 3 or 4 years... if not. Let him go! Rinse. Repeat!


What happens if you draft a qb and he's not better than Prescott

Wentz is a number 1 overall pick and he isn't better than Dak. Then you've set your franchise behind almost a decade because you couldn't build around a solid qb
 

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What happens if you draft a qb and he's not better than Prescott

Wentz is a number 1 overall pick and he isn't better than Dak. Then you've set your franchise behind almost a decade because you couldn't build around a solid qb


Understood. I know. I hear ya.

“Do better’ CA
 

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LOL...…..average would be 16th in passing. Dak was #1 in passing.

Stupid doesn't win any argument.
We know garbage time and garbage teams, #1, get real average is text book of what Dak was this year spin anyway you want, stupid is believing Dak is #1.in anything. Not a argument to most Dak = middle of the road = average.
 

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Using your logic, his record would only prove that he's a top 3 QB.
Throw out the 13-3 outlier and he ends up in the 8-10 win range 9 is average in the NFL. I am for giving him another year to show he's not totally player dependent to raise his game and can elevate the players around him,.as of now he hasn't shown that. If he shows he can then sign him up,but not at this point as 9 wins not getting it done. I really do not understand why people get upset when it comes to Dak, sign him up now and if he's a 9 win type of guy and it's 5 years of more misery.
 

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How do you know it's the Cowboys who are waiting? Those sound like good reasons for Dak's agent to wait.

I don't know. But I do know the longer the Cowboys wait the more likely they will end up paying more. They need to suck it and pay Dak what he is worth right now. Because the more they keep pushing it to the future the more Dak will cost them.
 

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Throw out the 13-3 outlier and he ends up in the 8-10 win range 9 is average in the NFL. I am for giving him another year to show he's not totally player dependent to raise his game and can elevate the players around him,.as of now he hasn't shown that. If he shows he can then sign him up,but not at this point as 9 wins not getting it done. I really do not understand why people get upset when it comes to Dak, sign him up now and if he's a 9 win type of guy and it's 5 years of more misery.

That season absolutely counts and 9 wins isnt average anyway. Now I'm not saying he is elite but the overwhelming majority of the anti Dak crowd are acting like he's garbage or "average". That's not true. He's a good QB but folks wanna trash him bc he's not Tom Brady. They trashed him when he was winning bc he wasnt putting up stats. Now that the entire team took a step back and he has high stats they wanna point to wins. What Dak did this year was not average. The wins he's accumulated over his career are not average. Im not against tagging him or bringing in an experienced backup but pretending like we can get better in FA or that this team is better warranted drafting a QB with a high pick is silly.
 

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At one point we could have signed Dak to 30 million a year. But the longer the Cowboys wait, they are going to pay a pretty penny to Dak. Dak has outplayed both Winch and Goff. He is going to use their signing as a benchmark. They should not wait till Maholmes gets signed. It will send mix signals to the team and to Dak that maybe that his not the QB to lead this team.

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That season absolutely counts and 9 wins isnt average anyway. Now I'm not saying he is elite but the overwhelming majority of the anti Dak crowd are acting like he's garbage or "average". That's not true. He's a good QB but folks wanna trash him bc he's not Tom Brady. They trashed him when he was winning bc he wasnt putting up stats. Now that the entire team took a step back and he has high stats they wanna point to wins. What Dak did this year was not average. The wins he's accumulated over his career are not average. Im not against tagging him or bringing in an experienced backup but pretending like we can get better in FA or that this team is better warranted drafting a QB with a high pick is silly.
Dak is average but when you’re not used to good things average seems like it’s better than you think. When you see the next level you see what you thought was better than average is in fact average or worse. That’s most of you Dak fans. You can’t be a good qb if you’re mainly only good against non playoff type teams sorry. He had two good games against playoff type teams. That’s not good sir stop the madness. Lastly for the love of sanity please stop parroting the wins as a qb stat when you same guys without fail will say it’s a team game when we lose.
 
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