News: CW: Jerry Jones looks super petty now that Jimmy Johnson will be in HOF

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Runwildboys said:
Why do people keep talking as if Jimmy would still be here, but Jerry chased him off? Jimmy didn't want to keep coaching. If he did, there was no shortage of teams that would have hired him immediately and given him full control.
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Jimmy's coaching timeline:

OK State from 79-83 5 seasons
The U from 84-88 5 seasons
Dallas 89-93 5 seasons
Miami 96-99 4 seasons

Anybody else see a pattern here? Jimmy was a guy that would get burned out in a place and look for a new challenge. I don't remember his contract situation, but I think he wanted out of Dallas so he could do something else and was openly disrespectful to Jerry because he knew Jerry would fire him.
 
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Diehardblues said:
We certainly don’t see Kraft trying to take as much credit as Belichick.

I’m not sure fans really are trying to get it. Jerry’s ambitions were outside the norm of owners.
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exactly..Kraft just sits back and collects trophies..And guess what else comes with it??recognition for him running his team correctly...
 
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Diehardblues said:
Of course Jimmy has the bigger ego cause he’s the guy that was the difference. The fact Jerry needed more credit than just hiring the guy and providing him the tools to do it is on his ego.

Not sure why everyone doesn’t get that ?
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Jerry definitely should have been mostly satisfied with the credit for being smart enough to hire Jimmy, but Jerry also helped build the team to a degree, so I don't think asking for some credit is asking too much. He didn't have to say it was 50/50, just acknowledge that he couldn't have done it without Jerry, which is true.
 
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Jerry Jones looks super petty now that Jimmy Johnson will be in HOF

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Jerry made it first so whos petty? and why?

this was decided a long time ago an both party's took equal responsibility in the split..You realize Jimmy never stayed at one place more then 5years, do you realize when he wen to Miami he didnt even win a division or make it into one Title game..why? MR.BIgshot basically became Garett without Jerry.. it was a special team THEY built together and it was gone way too soon..

so why the stupid narrative trying to make this all on Jerry all the time.. Jimmy win any SBs without jerry? they did it together , period but they were oil and water and yes its sad it didnt work out like NE even though it could have been similar.

they are both at fault and appreciate what they did do while it lasted..
 
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brooksey1 said:
So did Jimmy look super petty when Jerry went to the HOF? BTW why was Jimmy sitting with with ex-employees the night before he was fired? When Jerry came over to the table to have a drink he should have went with Jerry for that drink, it takes two to tango. We know who Jerry is but Jimmy wasn't easy either.

Congrats to the two of them..they could have won more SB's together but they didn't.
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they forgot about all that but Jimmy would be nothing without Jerry and vice versa, they were a team..
 
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Diehardblues said:
We certainly don’t see Kraft trying to take as much credit as Belichick.

I’m not sure fans really are trying to get it. Jerry’s ambitions were outside the norm of owners.
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Outside the box baby, that’s why Jerry is in the HOF...$$$$ to all of the other “norm” owners who were just along for the ride.
 
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The biggest disgrace in NFL history is that Jerry IS in the HOF.
The shame is, he was a legit great owner for 4 years, and then became the worst owner in sports.
When people point to the growth of the franchise and the money he makes with the brand as to why he is a great owner, I say who gives a $^^^ about how much money he makes! That does zero to help the product on the field, which is all real fans care about.
 
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INCowboysFan said:
Jimmy's coaching timeline:

OK State from 79-83 5 seasons
The U from 84-88 5 seasons
Dallas 89-93 5 seasons
Miami 96-99 4 seasons

Anybody else see a pattern here? Jimmy was a guy that would get burned out in a place and look for a new challenge. I don't remember his contract situation, but I think he wanted out of Dallas so he could do something else and was openly disrespectful to Jerry because he knew Jerry would fire him.
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Yeah, let's look at that.

He left Oklahoma State.......because he got a better job. Miami was coming off of winning the national championship. He would never be able to do that at Oklahoma State, so he left. No burnout.

He left Miami.....because he got a more high profile job. The Cowboys, no matter how low they were after the 1988 season, were a front of mind, name brand. Winning there is much bigger than winning at the University of Miami. Again, no burnout.

He left the Cowboys.....because he got fired. Anything speaking about him leaving at the end of the month is complete revisionist history, because he never mentioned it until over 20 years after the fact.

He left Miami because he was done with coaching. This is the one time that you can call it being burned out.

People rationalize things the way they want. The bottom line is, the only gap in time he had in coaching was after he was fired by Jones......all for two years. Honestly? I think he would have stayed for the 1994 season, and would have left after that.
 
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A famous gal once said, “What difference does it make anyway”?
 
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Runwildboys said:
What do we Cowboys fans have to do with the subject at hand? It seems anyone basing his opinion of this situation, and carrying a grudge because of how it affects us is also being petty.
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As fans, at the end of the day, all we want is to see our Cowboys as Super bowl champions. Jimmy is going to the HoF because he did just that. His HoF accomplishments align with our goals as fans, Jerry's doesn't.
 
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birdwells1 said:
As fans, at the end of the day, all we want is to see our Cowboys as Super bowl champions. Jimmy is going to the HoF because he did just that. His HoF accomplishments align with our goals as fans, Jerry's doesn't.
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Do you think Jimmy would have gotten in if Jerry hadn't brought him into the NFL?
 
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Runwildboys said:
The article paints Jerry as petty, but doesn't mention the fact that Jimmy, in his response to being told he was going into the HoF, gave credit to all his assistant coaches and players, but none to Jerry, the man who hired him in the first place. They've both been petty all along.
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I don't like Jerry Jones much. However, was he wrong when he said that team could win with any coach? Jerry proved that to be true. Both have been very petty.
 
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foofighters said:
I don't like Jerry Jones much. However, was he wrong when he said that team could win with any coach? Jerry proved that to be true. Both have been very petty.
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Agreed, and that's what a lot of people don't want to admit.
 
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Runwildboys said:
Do you think Jimmy would have gotten in if Jerry hadn't brought him into the NFL?
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Someone drafted Joe Montana, Michael Jordan, Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin. Someone hired Bill Belichick, Tom Landry and Don Shula. Should the people that drafted or hired these individuals be placed in the HoF for doing so? No they should get credit for a great acquisition but after that all credit goes to the individuals.
 
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Runwildboys said:
Why do people keep talking as if Jimmy would still be here, but Jerry chased him off? Jimmy didn't want to keep coaching. If he did, there was no shortage of teams that would have hired him immediately and given him full control.
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It goes beyond that. Jimmy wanted out and he was smart enough to know if he kept tweaking Jerry, Jerry would fire him and up looking like the bad guy. Jerry’s sin was not in firing Jimmy, anyone in Jerry’s position would have done the same. His sin was not putting good football people in place to manage talent evals, the cap, to coach, etcetera.
 
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birdwells1 said:
Someone drafted Joe Montana, Michael Jordan, Jerry Rice and Michael Irvin. Someone hired Bill Belichick, Tom Landry and Don Shula. Should the people that drafted or hired these individuals be placed in the HoF for doing so? No they should get credit for a great acquisition but after that all credit goes to the individuals.
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But people were clamoring to get those people. Who was desperate to get Jimmy up from the college ranks? Jerry did things differently than any other team and it payed off. He was also willing to spend the money Jimmy needed to build the roster.
I'm not saying Jerry deserves most of the credit...or even half...but he certainly deserves a decent share, and even if not, most coaches would be gracious enough to give credit anyway.
 
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