Hope Dak's a cerebral QB

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I see we got another one that assumes anybody with a college degree no matter what its in is "smart enough" smh. He got them degrees that if he wasn't an athlete you'd be like he went to school for that stop it. Them degrees don't have jack expletive to do with playing football so I need people to stop this esmart business when they aren't even related.
Related to whom? I dunt knead too b related too smert pepul too b smert myseff. Jest cuz nun of dem gradeated frum midul skul dunt meen dey aint smert too.
 

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eRelated to whom? I dunt knead too b related too smert pepul too b smert myseff. Jest cuz nun of dem gradeated frum midul skul dunt meen dey aint smert too.

Doesn't have anything to do with being smart. It measures the ability in comprehension and problem-solving in a timed test.

Like, Mary is taller than John. John is 3 inches shorter than Ralph. Ralph is 340 lbs and the same height as John. Who is the tallest?
 

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Irvin was on 105.3 the fan this morning. He said he played in the Pro Bowl under the 49ers West coast offense. He said it was extremely difficult to understand, but Aikman was so cerebral, he was able to understand it and simplify it for Irvin.

Think about the QBs McCarthy had under this offense.... Montana, Steve Young, Favre, and Rogers. They all had high QB IQs.

I think Dak will be just fine.

Favre? Come on. He had to ask Ty Detmer what a dime defense was. Favre was not the sharpest tool in the box.
 

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Doesn't have anything to do with being smart. It measures the ability in comprehension and problem-solving in a timed test.

Like, Mary is taller than John. John is 3 inches shorter than Ralph. Ralph is 340 lbs and the same height as John. Who is the tallest?
U tryn to trik me? U dun sed Ralph n John ar de same hite n den sed John was 3 inches shorter. When Ralph gained all of that weight, did he get shorter? Mary is taller and I think she should forget both John and Ralph and go after Dak cuz he's gonna be rich.
 

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Yes. Dak can handle running a WCO. He already makes adjustments to routes and plays at the line.
 

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U tryn to trik me? U dun sed Ralph n John ar de same hite n den sed John was 3 inches shorter. When Ralph gained all of that weight, did he get shorter? Mary is taller and I think she should forget both John and Ralph and go after Dak cuz he's gonna be rich.

LOL...You got me there! Sometimes the questions make about that much sense though.

One reads, make a word out of these letters......

CTTAERHCI

If I answer CAT does that count?

Are or they looking for ARCHITECT?
 

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Then research Dak's college and pro football accomplishments, Einstein, before opening your uninformed trap. Very simple.
Compared to you I'm Einstein and every other genius combined. He was soo accomplished in college he got drafted in the fourth rd. Yep sounds like a super accomplished QB right there. He had his one outlier season everybody gives him credit for but outside of that he's accomplished nothing. So again what does a worthless degree have to do with football?
 

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It's 2020, there isn't a system that doesn't require a cerebral QB. If anything the WCO is easy compared to say the system the Patriots use. Saying "X Go Y Slant" instead of "92" or whatever isn't rocket surgery.
 

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I don't worry about the football IQ as much as the crossing routes that are a main ingredient of the WCO and the most dangerous routes, turnover wise, for a QB.

And Romo struggled with that as well. He was fine to Witten, the bigger, slower target not looking to get YAC but the different speed WR's are a challenge for most QB's and hitting them in stride, headed down field, and not making them break that stride to reach back, is the magic of that passing game.
 

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It's 2020, there isn't a system that doesn't require a cerebral QB. If anything the WCO is easy compared to say the system the Patriots use. Saying "X Go Y Slant" instead of "92" or whatever isn't rocket surgery.

I got no clue where you read that. New England runs the Earhardt-Perkins system.....

"Brian Daboll comes from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, and on the offensive side of the ball he has traditionally utilized the Erhardt-Perkins (E-P) offense. The E-P offense, much like the Air Coryell and West Coast offenses, is not based in a method of attack like most fans think. In fact, the three systems are actually methods for its players to learn the scheme. The systems, simply put, are a language. The E-P system specifically, is a method of conceptualizing the plays in a streamlined manner so that the offensive players are able to memorize the plays easily."

“I look at it as a bunch of coaches sitting in rooms late at night organizing and getting things together to help players be successful.” – Co-creator of the E-P system, Ray Perkins
 

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I got no clue where you read that. New England runs the Earhardt-Perkins system.....

"Brian Daboll comes from the Bill Belichick coaching tree, and on the offensive side of the ball he has traditionally utilized the Erhardt-Perkins (E-P) offense. The E-P offense, much like the Air Coryell and West Coast offenses, is not based in a method of attack like most fans think. In fact, the three systems are actually methods for its players to learn the scheme. The systems, simply put, are a language. The E-P system specifically, is a method of conceptualizing the plays in a streamlined manner so that the offensive players are able to memorize the plays easily."

“I look at it as a bunch of coaches sitting in rooms late at night organizing and getting things together to help players be successful.” – Co-creator of the E-P system, Ray Perkins

I think you misread my post, I said the WCO is easy compared to the Patriots system... which is EP.

The Patriots system is so difficult that new players routinely wash out because they can't learn it. It's easy to learn the play names, yes - but that's only the tip of the iceberg. The offense as a whole is a player killer for guys who don't have the mental make up for it.
 

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I think you misread my post, I said the WCO is easy compared to the Patriots system... which is EP.

No, I read it right. West Coast is not easier. The QB is calling every route. Each play call is much longer, more terminology.
 

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Bahahahahahaha

The Holmgren tree of coaches designs offenses to be incredibly QB friendly. All you do is throw screens, slants, and TE seams.

Dak will be able to pick this offense up in 5 minutes compared to the outdated nonsense he’s been using
 

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No, I read it right. West Coast is not easier. The QB is calling every route. Each play call is much longer, more terminology.

You're confusing different aspects of the offenses. The words used are easy for EP, because they have no meaning and refer basically entire sections of the playbook, so they can just be short phrases instead of WCO word salad. That gives them specific advantages, but it's actually very hard on the players in other ways.

The Patriots offense requires you memories the entire play (formation, protection, all routes for all players) under a single code name. The article you're referencing is about how it's easy to call plays FAST using the system because the play names are short. That is true, but employing the offense as a whole is not easy at all, in the WCO you essentially tell everyone what to do one at a time, which means you have to talk a ton but the underlying logic is piss easy.

The Patriots offense also employs tons of option routes that requires receivers to make the same reads in real time post snap as the quarterback. If your receivers are smart and your QB is Tom Brady it's a huge advantage. For normal players things can go sideways quickly. New receivers in particular crap out at a terrifying rate for the Patriots because they can't learn the offense at all.

This is also the offense Favre ran his entire career, and he freely admits he was not particularly cerebral about how he played football.
 
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