Pearson vs. Swann vs. Carmichael: Objective look

MarcusRock

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Also the nfl is kinda cheap about the hall of fame, and only add a few players each year

I think it SHOULD be that way. If I were running it, only the best of the best would get in. If that means no inductees in a given year, I wouldn't mind that.
 

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The Cowboys were 2-0 against Buffalo in the Super Bowl but the Bills' deserving players got in right away. They didn't wait 40 years like Drew and they were 4-time Super Bowl losers. And remember we don't know if Drew will ever get in or live to see it. It's wrong.
Yup and Andre Reed even got in....Drew was in 3 SBs in 4 years and won 1...and hes still waiting, utterly a travesty.
 

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The Cowboys were 2-0 against Buffalo in the Super Bowl but the Bills' deserving players got in right away. They didn't wait 40 years like Drew and they were 4-time Super Bowl losers. And remember we don't know if Drew will ever get in or live to see it. It's wrong.
Of course our most deserving players from that era also got in right away. Reed actually had to wait, although nothing like Drew. Drew was overlooked long before those guys got in.
 

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I think it SHOULD be that way. If I were running it, only the best of the best would get in. If that means no inductees in a given year, I wouldn't mind that.
lol Marcus that would then be the "super" hall of fame .
HOF is not about being just the best , but other factors as well.
Contributions to the game nfl fans etc.
 

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First of all, to Harris being in - IT'S ABOUT FREAKING TIME!

He left football with many good years left to make money, when he played NFL players, even allowing for the much lower costs of everything in the 1970's, didn't get the massive salaries great players do today. If he'd stayed a few more years, would seem to be no question he'd have had another couple of Pro Bowl/All Pro seasons, and would made the HOF much sooner, maybe even the first year of eligibility. I've campaigned for him to make the HOF for years, good feeling to know now the voters agree.

In regards to Pearson vs. Swann vs. Carmichael, I have to remove the playoff and SB numbers, you can't have those numbers unless your TEAM makes it, Carmichael didn't play on a lot of good teams, wasn't all his fault they didn't, obviously.

The thing about to me Drew being over both of the others is what the Houston Chronical writer said in a story about Pearson, in noting what they were most known for - that he was CLUTCH.

Whenever Roger HAD to make a play, who was the target? Drew Pearson. And not just in the Hail Mary, it was in many other games. Swann had a few of those, but the most famous one - the catch over Randy Hughes in the SB, was largely luck - the ball was deflected but fell right on top of him, and besides that Hughes had a shoulder brace that prevented him from reaching over his head with that arm, if healthy it'd probably been intercepted or deflected way past Swann. But that's an aside.

It wasn't just that he was clutch, either. Watch Dorsett's 99 yard run, and who was the last blocker downfield? Pearson. Again, there are other plays where Drew was the blocker for a long reception, or blocked for other Dorsett runs. Don't recall Swann doing that very much, though admittedly I didn't watch many other Steelers games.

Add to that that Pearson is the ONLY other All 70's receiver NOT in the HOF, that alone is a crime and a travesty. If EVERY other receiver is in, how can you exclude Pearson? It's impossible to believe Pearson was on that team and yet all of the others were far enough ahead of him as a player to say they belong in the HOF and Pearson doesn't.

Though I do believe the voters didn't feel they should put in two players on the same team, who played about the same years, in the HOF the same year. Hopefully next year...

Nailed it LA.
 

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The Cowboys were 2-0 against Buffalo in the Super Bowl but the Bills' deserving players got in right away. They didn't wait 40 years like Drew and they were 4-time Super Bowl losers. And remember we don't know if Drew will ever get in or live to see it. It's wrong.
Good point. Ok, maybe a little east coast bias?
 

Cowboysheelsreds053

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Boyz nailed it with the Bills, how about the Vikings. If my memory is correct they have no SB rings either.
 

KJJ

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Cowboy bias. It's a thing

It’s not the thing that’s keeping Pearson out or Harris wouldn’t have gotten in. The Cowboys wouldn’t have as many players in the Hall of Fame if their was a Cowboys bias.
 

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It’s not the thing that’s keeping Pearson out or Harris wouldn’t have gotten in.

Harris wasn't eligible until Donnie Shell got in. ;)

I think they are waiting for Louis Lipps to get in before seriously considering Pearson. :D
 

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It’s not the thing that’s keeping Pearson out or Harris wouldn’t have gotten in. The Cowboys wouldn’t have as many players in the Hall of Fame if their was a Cowboys bias.
In my opinion had the Cowboys beat the Steelers in those earlier SuperBowls Drew would've been in 30 plus years ago.
 

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Jterrell has it right on the money --- Lynn Swann got into broadcasting and made friends with the voters. It truly sucks that you can get in that way, but it happens. I don't even think the players that go that route lobby for it, they just make friends and those friends try to help them out. Sportswriters have way too much say in this selection process.
 
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