If the Cowboys are going to pay top dollar for a quarterback there are better options

FuzzyLumpkins

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I'm just letting you guys call your shots as much as you like.
Next season we'll see.

That is what you are counting on by calling QB1 inferior to career backups and failed starters on their subsequent teams.

I get that you cannot cop to trolling because of site rules but obvious troll is obvious. You should be proud. You get nearly 280 posts of attention.
 

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Tough decisions. But while it's true Dak isn't the same level as Rodgers, lesser QBs than Dak have won the Super Bowl. But, as you mentioned, it's hard to fill out the best possible team with QB salaries so high.

Still, how many QBs are Rodgers level, and how likely are we to get one at that level from the draft, especially not picking unitl 17? The reason Rogers (along with Brady and Brees) are still being mentioned as the standards is that over the last 20 years new QBs haven't come along to replace them. Wilson and Mahomes may be at or near that level now, but those kinds of QBs are few and far between, and it's pretty risky to get rid of a high quality QB and take a flyer on getting one of those very rare ones. If you have a top 5 draft pick, the gamble might be worth it, but drafting at #17, the odds are very small.


Yeah, I don't think you can consider it at 17. I would definitely do it for Burrow - no brainer really.

Dak has proven we can win with him but that is at his current salary. Proving it with a lesser team around him is a much tougher thing to do. I have always said we can win with Dak, but I am not sure you can win with Dak, lets just say, without Amari. Can we do that? History says no.

Could we win with Bridgewater or Tannehill and Amari - I think so - those would be my possible considerations.
 

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I think some of you are misguided in how you look at Dak compared to other QBs.

Newton, for example, has never had a 100 QB rating in a season. His career QB rating is 86.1 and his career completion percentage is below 60 percent. His TD-to-int. ratio is not even 2-to-1 (182 to 108) That is not amazing numbers or even close to it.

Prescott in comparison is heads and shoulders better as a passer. His career QB rating is 97.0, his career completion percentage is 65.8 and his TD-to-int. is closer to 3-to-1 (97 to 36).

As a runner, Newton has averaged 5.1 YPC per carry and scored 58 times in nine years, but he's also fumbled 52 times and lost 20. Dak also averages 5.1 over four years, with 21 TDs, 31 fumbles and 15 fumbles lost.
don't waste your breath trying to be logical and factual with the OP. he is a troll, with minimal understanding of football looking for negative attention and something argue and will 100% guarantee start name calling (usually when he has had way too much to drink)….
 

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So, every time 4 years go by without winning the Super Bowl we release our QB and roll the dice with a QB drafted with whatever 1st round pick the team has, no matter how far into the draft that is? That's a pretty terrible plan.

This isn't about optimism, it's about facts and odds. NFL teams can't afford to make these kinds of decisions based on blind optimism. They have to consider the facts and odds, and odds are signifacntly against drafting a better QB with the 17th pick than we already have, and they are actually better that we will draft a worse one.
imagine if they did that with Marino or Elway or Manning.....
 

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That is what you are counting on by calling QB1 inferior to career backups and failed starters on their subsequent teams.

I get that you cannot cop to trolling because of site rules but obvious troll is obvious. You should be proud. You get nearly 280 posts of attention.
I am glad you see the trolling and its so obvious.

I find it very funny that he diminishes what dak has done, but has a long line of excuses for Mariotta and oh yeah his eyes telling him Mariotta is good, with another one of his responses that Tannehill with exactly the same group of players is doing much better because Vrabel in the middle of the season changed how he called games or schemed or some other BS.....
 

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I think some of you are misguided in how you look at Dak compared to other QBs.

Newton, for example, has never had a 100 QB rating in a season. His career QB rating is 86.1 and his career completion percentage is below 60 percent. His TD-to-int. ratio is not even 2-to-1 (182 to 108) That is not amazing numbers or even close to it.

Prescott in comparison is heads and shoulders better as a passer. His career QB rating is 97.0, his career completion percentage is 65.8 and his TD-to-int. is closer to 3-to-1 (97 to 36).

As a runner, Newton has averaged 5.1 YPC per carry and scored 58 times in nine years, but he's also fumbled 52 times and lost 20. Dak also averages 5.1 over four years, with 21 TDs, 31 fumbles and 15 fumbles lost.
Cam has never been a short game passer and relies on big plays. He also hasn
Daks had 4 years and hasnt delivered.

I really love the optimism. Woe is us, we'll never draft a good QB, even in the first round......sure any player taken at #17 must be terrible. Why bother. Sure 8-8 isnt that bad.
That's exactly what pisses me off. The Cowboys picking at 17 could be staring at Tua or Fromm and they would either trade back or draft a guard.
 

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who let this troll join the board? He used to do this same stupid crap over on The Ranch board.

Come on. It's just a post that disagrees with your POV. It's talking about other QB possibilities. That's hardly trolling. Trolling is posting deliberately inflammatory stuff. To be clear, I'm not for his ideas, but going with Case Keenum isn't an idea so absurd that it's just designed to make people angry. Just let someone else have a different opinion. It's no big deal.
 

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You keep saying that yet I'm still here. And you know it's not that. I get banned for things here that most that do the same thing don't get banned.

My goal isn’t to get rid of you. I actually kind of like you if you didn’t ply the martyr all the time and for no reason.

Let’s not pretend five different staff members all have it out for little old you, especially in a threaded discussion where you’re bragging about not caring about the rules. It’s tedious does posters who actually do like being here to read that sort of obvious bull****.
 

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Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.
  • Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.
  • Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.
  • Tom Brady will probably be available.
And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

This is Lefunny.
 

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My goal isn’t to get rid of you. I actually kind of like you if you didn’t ply the martyr all the time and for no reason.

Let’s not pretend five different staff members all have it out for little old you, especially in a threaded discussion where you’re bragging about not caring about the rules. It’s tedious does posters who actually do like being here to read that sort of obvious bull****.
Reported. I got banned for putting **** instead of a cuss word. @Reality
 

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Is anyone here going to say that Dak is better than Cam Newton?
Really?
And I'd take Case Keenum over Dak.

You are being dishonest with yourself if you say that Dak has proven that he is the best available option at quarterback for the Cowboys.

Ahem, Dak is better than everyone on your list. I covered them all, just in case there would be questions.
 

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Keenum IS better.
It's not even close.
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It's really amazing to see how many here will viciously defend Dak, despite the fact that he casually quit on the Cowboys this year and showed no fight whatsoever when it came to just watching the division title disappear.
He is a system quarterback at best, and showed no signs of leadership on the field when the team needed a lift.
Dak runs the plays that are called, but he doesn't elevate the team when needed.

Why do you and your crew, always think we are defending Dak. We are defending common sense. Your postings don't make sense to you, or anyone that reads them. Of course, your crew will blindly follow.
 

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There's a reason Dak hasn't been signed yet. There's no such thing as coincidence when it comes to money.
He hasn't shown that he can be "the man"; he's shown more readily that he is average, at best.
I don't see the wisdom in paying him top money when there are better deals to be had.

Has Brady been signed yet? Asking for a friend.
 
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