More or less haters. Dak vs Romo

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Very similar.
Dak gets hate for any loss and for missing throws. He got heat for holding the ball too long and taking sacks until this year.

Romo got hate for turnovers, turnovers and terrible ints at the worst times. He gat hate for holding the ball too long, which resulted in fumbles instead of sacks.

Romo improved at protecting the ball, but he never got over holding the ball and never giving up on a play and throwing it away, especially on third down, and he seldom won the big game to get in or extend the playoffs. Dak has always protected the ball well when passing, for a young guy. He has also improved in holding on instead of fumbling, but while he started strong in winning the close games, this year there was no magic at the end of close games.

Whether Romo and Dak deserve the blame for losses more than other players and coaches is up for debate.

Cowboys fans have almost always had a love/hate relationship with their QBs. Don Meredith had to deal with fan garbage and booing while leading an expansion team and getting killed in the pocket. Roger escaped most of it because he joined a playoff team and didn’t lose right away. Aikman? Aikman was the one guy who knew when to throw the pass away to live another play or even punt and wait. He knew how to throw the check down for 3 yards when he needed 5 rather than take a sack, fumble, or get injured. But fans quietly grumbled when he won championships and hated that same type of play when the team was bad and not winning late in his career.

Unless you are an American hero like Roger and win every year, being the Cowboys QB brings fan ire with it.
And Roger retired before he started to decline.
 

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Romo got a lot of hate, but what is funny, many of those fans that hated him, well, not hate him, but hated him when he had one of those games and lost it. Though he also had some bad defenses like Dak has.

However, many of these fans now act like Romo was Brady, could do no wrong.
A friend of mine still brings up how Tony got screwed and we would have won the SB that year if he was allowed his job back.

But back when he was throwing those picks he wanted him gone like so many others did, and like so many want Dak gone now.
Fans are fickle and live in hindsight. And have selective memory to fit their thoughts to try to prove something that really doesn't matter.

Wait...are you saying CZ posters are "wishy washy," and are clueless walking contradictions? No way....:muttley:
 

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It’s pretty much the same.

Dak haters don’t want to admit that because Romo haters look like complete clowns in hindsight.
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Please don’t start with the no defense for Romo
What? You've never heard of the expression defense wins championships? There is a reason that saying exists. You give any number of QB's a topnotch defense, year in year out, and watch that team be in contention, for as long as that defense exists.
 

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Some fans for whatever reason, have this thing for/about underdog players but once they reach a level worthy of getting paid, oh boy, they turn on them.....fast. It's something about players getting paid the simply turn some fans off. I can make a where Dak, Coop, DLaw, Zeke, and Jaylon were all fan favorites ........as long as they were playing for pennies or rookie deals. But we've seen SOME fans ( usually the same ones ) do 180s once they start nego their second deal. A few have posted in threads encouraging FO to get rid of every player mention here if they refuse to sign a team-friendly deal.

I personally think some, (not all of course) simply have a problem thinking players are making millions of dollars w/o college degree. Just seen the hints/baits too many times over 30+ years.

I don't mind some players getting their fair share. Some strike me as types to lose their hunger to win once they get a fat contract. I think we all want players to live up to their salary, but some still want them to over perform their pay.

Of those that got big money last year, only one lived up to expectations, IMO. That's more on the FO than the players. The Jones boys need to do a better job of deciding which will continue to perform at a high level, and which will take the money and make business decisions.
 

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I remember going through this when Romo was QB. A lot liked him and was happy to have him as our franchise QB and a lot hated him because he had “those games”.

When Romo got paid so many acted like it was the end of the world because he got blockbuster deals and was locked in as our QB.

Now we are going through this with Dak and some acting like he is going to get over paid and is average, no matter what the stats say.

Do you think there is more or less or about the same amount of haters and lovers for Dak that there was for Romo. And why do you think this is a different situation.
I think it's about equal the amount of hate they get, and it's the same dumb sh*** who bash them both.
 

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Not sure bro. I see a lot of hate. Lol.
I think the overwhelming majority of what gets deemed "hate" towards Dak is just people saying that he isn't worth 40 million a year. That's not not being a "hater."

Yes, there are some who bash him unfairly, but it is a fraction of what Romo got.
 

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The hate got Dak is way much more than Romo. With Romo most said he was a good regular season QB but failed in the playoffs. With Dak his every throw is criticized over and over.
 

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I remember going through this when Romo was QB. A lot liked him and was happy to have him as our franchise QB and a lot hated him because he had “those games”.

When Romo got paid so many acted like it was the end of the world because he got blockbuster deals and was locked in as our QB.

Now we are going through this with Dak and some acting like he is going to get over paid and is average, no matter what the stats say.

Do you think there is more or less or about the same amount of haters and lovers for Dak that there was for Romo. And why do you think this is a different situation.
When I watched romo there was always hope, and faith we could overcome any deficit. With dak if we are down by 14 it’s a done deal.
 

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It’s pretty much the same.

Dak haters don’t want to admit that because Romo haters look like complete clowns in hindsight.
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No they don’t. Romo choked a ton and he deserved to get criticism. He basically more or less stopped the haters later in his career with his more consistent play unfortunately he was made of glass...

And I like Romo by the way.
 

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Romo got a ton more hate than Dak has gotten. But a lot of it is because he left the perception than he wasn't going to allow himself to be devastated by failure. Here are some quotes from 2007-2009.

  • (Regarding moving forward, next year) "We're going to try to get back in the playoffs and try to win the Super Bowl. That's all you can do. If we don't...OK. If we do...OK."
  • "I've had a lot worse happen to me than a loss in a sporting event, that's for sure. If this is the worst thing that ever happens to me, then I've led a pretty good life."
  • (In response to how he gets over a tough loss) "I wake up tomorrow and keep living."

Plus the Jessica Simpson thing and Cabo and golfing in the off season.

People just don't want to see or hear any of that. Especially coming from the franchise QB of the Dallas Cowboys. Even if it does indicate a mature grown man that tries to keep his life in perspective. He just opened up the door for people to rush in and blast him. And they did. In spades.

He stopped doing and saying those kinds of things later in his career with Dallas. But the damage had already been done.

That my two cents, anyways.

I actually liked what he said because it showed he understood the big picture. It didn't mean he didn't want to win badly, just that he had the proper perspective about it (which we often don't as fans). That along with the fact that the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys would stop and change an older couple's flat tire on the freeway or pay a destitute person's way into a movie was part of the charm of Romo for me. That and some of his antics on the field not just as an escape artist but as a player who clearly had fun playing the game.
 

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Romo got a lot of hate, but what is funny, many of those fans that hated him, well, not hate him, but hated him when he had one of those games and lost it. Though he also had some bad defenses like Dak has.

However, many of these fans now act like Romo was Brady, could do no wrong.
A friend of mine still brings up how Tony got screwed and we would have won the SB that year if he was allowed his job back.

But back when he was throwing those picks he wanted him gone like so many others did, and like so many want Dak gone now.
Fans are fickle and live in hindsight. And have selective memory to fit their thoughts to try to prove something that really doesn't matter.
I've been lucky not to be on the hater list for either QB. That must be exhausting.
Like them both.
But I do think at least so far, Romo was a better QB. No big deal though

But come on, "Dak has bad defenses like Romo had"?
uh, no
At least not during those 8-8 years.

And you can multiply that 5-10x for the offensive lines. Very early on, Romo had a solid but aging oline. Most of the time he had awful lines.
Then by 2014, the line via the draft had become formidable....more like the lines Dak has enjoyed his entire career.

Btw, I think the hate (and sometimes the love too) has been over the top for both players.
 

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No they don’t. Romo choked a ton and he deserved to get criticism. He basically more or less stopped the haters later in his career with his more consistent play unfortunately he was made of glass...

And I like Romo by the way.
Just using those bozo terms like "choke" and "made of glass' tells me otherwise.

Choking is when you shy away from crunch time. Romo was the opposite, even if the results sometimes weren't good. He was a guy he went right for the juggler. Got him in trouble sometimes, especially early in his career. Also was a reason why he led more 4th qtr comeback wins than anyone else for a 7 year stretch.

When you play with porous offensive lines for about 4 straight years, and take a relentless beating....you're body is going to break down. Yes, he did had notch in his collarbone that made it easier to break, but the dude wasn't made of glass.
 
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The love. The hate . You just can’t compare it. There’s different reasons why some hate Prescott. How dare he take over for the great Tony Romo. If you didn’t like Tony. It was because you didn’t like his performance. People didn’t like Prescott from the beginning.
There may be a "precious" few for whom this is close to the truth, and those are the ones who truly hate having Dak as the QB. While many of us felt Romo should have gotten his job back once he was healthy, it was Dak's arm, footwork, and decision making that put doubt in people's minds. Dak looked better than expected in his rookie season, but didn't get any better until early this season. I'm holding out hope that he becomes the player he shows flashes of being, but when he has one of his bad games, it's hard to believe in him.
 

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Romo got a ton more hate than Dak has gotten. But a lot of it is because he left the perception than he wasn't going to allow himself to be devastated by failure. Here are some quotes from 2007-2009.

  • (Regarding moving forward, next year) "We're going to try to get back in the playoffs and try to win the Super Bowl. That's all you can do. If we don't...OK. If we do...OK."
  • "I've had a lot worse happen to me than a loss in a sporting event, that's for sure. If this is the worst thing that ever happens to me, then I've led a pretty good life."
  • (In response to how he gets over a tough loss) "I wake up tomorrow and keep living."

Plus the Jessica Simpson thing and Cabo and golfing in the off season.

People just don't want to see or hear any of that. Especially coming from the franchise QB of the Dallas Cowboys. Even if it does indicate a mature grown man that tries to keep his life in perspective. He just opened up the door for people to rush in and blast him. And they did. In spades.

He stopped doing and saying those kinds of things later in his career with Dallas. But the damage had already been done.

That my two cents, anyways.
I think you make valid points. Some people don't want their QB to do anything but eat, sleep, and breathe Cowboys football, and doing anything outside the stadium is selfish. Everyone watching the game on TV knows what a football player should be doing and feeling at any given moment.
 

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The love. The hate . You just can’t compare it. There’s different reasons why some hate Prescott. How dare he take over for the great Tony Romo. If you didn’t like Tony. It was because you didn’t like his performance. People didn’t like Prescott from the beginning.
Hmm, I could say and be very accurate for some, that again SOME liked Dak from the beginning for their own reasons. So it absolutely goes both ways.
 

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I remember going through this when Romo was QB. A lot liked him and was happy to have him as our franchise QB and a lot hated him because he had “those games”.

When Romo got paid so many acted like it was the end of the world because he got blockbuster deals and was locked in as our QB.

Now we are going through this with Dak and some acting like he is going to get over paid and is average, no matter what the stats say.

Do you think there is more or less or about the same amount of haters and lovers for Dak that there was for Romo. And why do you think this is a different situation.


The difference is for most of his career here Romo was the offense. We know an offense always flows through the QB, but some QB like romo didn't always get much help and had to make things work. For most of Daks career the focal point was Zeke which is smart and a luxery Romo rarely had. Without Zeke running well we are a putrid offense that can hardly move the ball much less score a TD. Good teams have to find a way to add talent in multiple positions, free agency is a big part of that. The more players you have making max contracts the less talent pool you will have.
 
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