More or less haters. Dak vs Romo

Nav22 · Jan 18, 2020

DallasDomination said:
No they don’t. Romo choked a ton and he deserved to get criticism. He basically more or less stopped the haters later in his career with his more consistent play unfortunately he was made of glass...

And I like Romo by the way.

Agree to disagree.

Those who criticized him in the past have mostly hushed up. History hasn’t been kind to them.

Numbers don’t lie. Romo was a beast and even the “choker” label has been put to bed. He was among the best in the league in the 4th quarter and in game-winning drives.

Aviano90 · Jan 18, 2020

Nav22 said:
Agree to disagree.

Those who criticized him in the past have mostly hushed up. History hasn’t been kind to them.

Numbers don’t lie. Romo was a beast and even the “choker” label has been put to bed. He was among the best in the league in the 4th quarter and in game-winning drives.

Romo received too much criticism and too much praise. You had way too many people on opposite ends of the spectrum. He wasn’t near as bad as his haters claimed but he wasn’t near as good as his diehard fans claim he is. It’s why you can’t really discuss Romo rationally because he either sucks or he’s the best with very few people realizing he falls somewhere in between .

Nav22 · Jan 18, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
No it isn't, stop with the revisionist history. There is much more support for Dak in the media than there ever was for Romo. There was absolute vitriol towards Romo early on in his career. The media loves to hate Dallas, they love to see absolute failure, they love to mock us. So Romo giving the Cowboys SOME semblance of hope had them attacking him left and right. And as I just said, the media was outright saying Romo couldn't win a playoff game AFTER his first starting season. They were already considering him a failure.

Nobody in the media is calling Dak a choke artist. The vast majority of the media isn't trying to destroy Dak because he couldn't beat a winning team this season, they have passing comments about that while also saying he deserves big franchise money in the same breath. Romo was never afforded this, he was hated and only just recently started getting praise due to now having better optics away from the star on his helmet and being in the booth.

it simply is not the same. Dak gets about as much criticism as your average mediocre QB, like Cousins and Carr. Romo's critics were on a whole other level.

You must not ever watch garbage like “First Take” or “Undisputed”. Good for you.

Dak gets ripped to shreds by the national media after every single loss. Dak even gets ripped sometimes after a win, if Zeke had a big game.

Comes with the territory. Romo faced a ton of stupid, unfair scrutiny too.

Nav22 · Jan 18, 2020

Aviano90 said:
Romo received too much criticism and too much praise. You had way too many people on opposite ends of the spectrum. He wasn’t near as bad as his haters claimed but he wasn’t near as good as his diehard fans claim he is. It’s why you can’t really discuss Romo rationally because he either sucks or he’s the best with very few people realizing he falls somewhere in between .

I think he now gets the proper credit he deserves, for the most part.

That’s usually what happens after a guy retires and fans are able to take a deep breath and process his career realistically.

He was a damn good QB who didn’t win enough in the playoffs to be considered truly elite. No shame in that.

Redline360 · Jan 18, 2020

The cowboys organization wasted the career of Romo who was arguably a top 5 QB when healthy*. Failed to give him support until it was to late. Granted we did have 2 great years where everything should have came together.

Dak is an above average quarterback that most bottom feeding teams would take instantly. Hes surrounded by a premier RB and one of the best OL in football for his

Bottom line is that the cowboys got extremely lucky in Romo and Dak. The organization(looking at you JJ) has let the fans down with its ego. Dak is no mahomes however he should be good enough to build a team around.

Romo > Dak

Established1971 · Jan 18, 2020

glimmerman said:
I remember going through this when Romo was QB. A lot liked him and was happy to have him as our franchise QB and a lot hated him because he had “those games”.

When Romo got paid so many acted like it was the end of the world because he got blockbuster deals and was locked in as our QB.

Now we are going through this with Dak and some acting like he is going to get over paid and is average, no matter what the stats say.

Do you think there is more or less or about the same amount of haters and lovers for Dak that there was for Romo. And why do you think this is a different situation.

I despise the word "hater", it is so loaded, exaggerated, condescending and simplistic. Its one of the worst words our recent culture has globbed on to.

Alexander · Jan 18, 2020

Established1971 said:
I despise the word "hater", it is so loaded, exaggerated, condescending and simplistic. Its one of the worst words our recent culture has globbed on to.

Here here.

It is the epitome of ignorance on many levels.

But our culture is getting stupider by the minute, so it has a place.

Captain-Crash · Jan 18, 2020

dallasdave said:

lmao, that's the dak lovers in a bar.

Kevinicus · Jan 18, 2020

Dak was a Romo hater.

Red Dragon · Jan 19, 2020

The hate that Dak's gotten thus far hasn't even reached 1/3 the level that Romo endured.

Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jan 19, 2020

Doomsday77 said:
I was there in Carolina for Romo's first start having replaced Bledsoe and I can't describe how crazy that place was with Cowboy fans. Point is we were so excited to have someone other than Drew at QB and even more so I believe cause he was an UFA so there were no expectations. It's only when we/he started pulling wins out of his a** that the expectations rose to a point where the haters started to rear their heads when we couldn't jump over the last hurdle.

Expectations for Dak started the same way-none! He got thrown into this situation and had immediate success so we expected him only to get better and better. I think the ceiling is higher for him and therefore the money should be higher form him.

My response is to this is definitely....THE SAME

Was at that game myself, we had way more boys fans at the stadium that day and both times when the tuna came there 2 years in a row.

percyhoward · Jan 19, 2020

The "haters" are probably just acting in the interest of self-preservation. When you actively state how much you can't stand your own team's QB, it takes away from the pain of losses, putting you in a win-win situation. Your team may have lost, but at least there's the consolation of feeling like you're "winning" the argument about the player.

That's the only explanation, unless you believe that all these people are really that out of touch.

percyhoward · Jan 19, 2020

Same list as above, adjusted for era. Romo is 6th, Prescott 9th.

Someone will take the above list as showing that they've played even. They haven't exactly, because the average passer rating is higher in the last few seasons, skewing the numbers slightly.

Either way, the fact that these QB have "haters" says more about the fans than it does about the players.

Scotman · Jan 19, 2020

Runwildboys said:
There may be a "precious" few for whom this is close to the truth, and those are the ones who truly hate having Dak as the QB. While many of us felt Romo should have gotten his job back once he was healthy, it was Dak's arm, footwork, and decision making that put doubt in people's minds. Dak looked better than expected in his rookie season, but didn't get any better until early this season. I'm holding out hope that he becomes the player he shows flashes of being, but when he has one of his bad games, it's hard to believe in him.

This is fair, IMO.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 19, 2020

romothesavior said:
The hate for Romo was 10x worse than the "hate" for Dak.

And it was fueled by a BS media narrative that far too many of our own fans bought into.

And you don’t think Dak faces a narrative? If Romo was a 1st round he would’ve got far more respect from idiots just like Dak. Dak constantly fights these narratives that are flat out wrong and incorrect.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 19, 2020

GenoT said:
Dak vs Romo really doesn’t matter.

When a former perennial champ-contending team hasn’t sniffed a SB in 24 (!!?!) years, and QB is the most important and most under-the-microscope position on the team...guess where the hate’s going, folks.

Yeah that would be a fine argument if Joe Flacco and Eli Mannimg weren’t Super Bowl Champions. Hell Cam Newton and Rex Greossman at least got to the Super Bowl. I don’t care what anyone says you aren’t winning without proper coaching.

glimmerman · Jan 19, 2020

rocyaice said:
Yeah that would be a fine argument if Joe Flacco and Eli Mannimg weren’t Super Bowl Champions. Hell Cam Newton and Rex Greossman at least got to the Super Bowl. I don’t care what anyone says you aren’t winning without proper coaching.

And we maybe getting a actual HC and staff. If we can put together something then with this Offense we can win a lot of games. More consistent Defense and a improved ST and we may have something. Going to be a interesting offseason and TC.

nobody · Jan 19, 2020

rocyaice said:
Yeah that would be a fine argument if Joe Flacco and Eli Mannimg weren’t Super Bowl Champions. Hell Cam Newton and Rex Greossman at least got to the Super Bowl. I don’t care what anyone says you aren’t winning without proper coaching.

A stout defense helps too.

Sarge · Jan 19, 2020

Whirlwin said:
The love. The hate . You just can’t compare it. There’s different reasons why some hate Prescott. How dare he take over for the great Tony Romo. If you didn’t like Tony. It was because you didn’t like his performance. People didn’t like Prescott from the beginning.

Aviano90 · Jan 19, 2020

Whirlwin said:
The love. The hate . You just can’t compare it. There’s different reasons why some hate Prescott. How dare he take over for the great Tony Romo. If you didn’t like Tony. It was because you didn’t like his performance. People didn’t like Prescott from the beginning.

You’re exactly right. The hate for Prescott started after a fantastic preseason debut against the Rams his rookie year. Romo haters were head over heals happy with Prescott’s performance and Romo lovers had to rain on the parade just out of spite. I mean, the arguing had been going on for almost a decade and they weren’t going to let the Romo haters be happy with another QBs performance. The arguing only intensified after Romo got hurt, Dak became the starter and the team went on a winning streak.

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