Would you take Teddy at under 25 million Or Tak Dak for over 35 million?

blueblood70 said:

um m Quinn and Cobb did well and its not just 5mil its whats you have ;eft to have the 5mil to add to it..say we needed 9 to sign a solid FA, well that 5mil now got that guy here..

its important to get Dak signed but for a team friendly deal or the Tag..

this thread was simply is dak 10-15mil better than a player like Bridgewater and the answer is NO!

trust me , this isn't just about dak!

you get 5mil less from Dak , sign Amari 17 instead of 20 , Byron 10 instead of 14 etc etc

if they all want to break the bank, I let Cooper and Jones go without blinking, we can find a FA WR/CB for a lot less

, coops is good but hes not thomas or Julio, Jones is Brandon Carr 2.0 is he good, yes , is he elite, no hes not getting Turnovers but these guys demanding to be market setters , I say goodbye.

Daks different in the FT can work to help buy us time so draft a 4th round qb , get a journeymen in case Dak holds out etc etc.. plans are needed daks not worth over 32 sorry, hes simply is not in my eye..if Jerry pays him fine ill support the guy, im not a hater, im a realist..

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We traded for Quinn and he wasn’t 5 million. Cobb was but he was a rare instance. This team has used 5 million on the likes of Cedric Thornton, Nolan Carroll among others. If the Cowboys wanted a guy for 9 million and needed to free up 5 million they can do it easily like they always have by switching money around.

What you’re hoping for is unrealistic. Why are guys signing for less than market value lol? That never happens and rightfully so. If you want someone you have to overpay.

Bridgewater would come in and no one would even know the difference. He was every bit as effective as Dak was in 2019, but Dak slobberers can only stare at the 5000 garbage yards stat and are generally clueless about how other players in the league are performing.
The people “laughing” would have also laughed four months ago if you asked with Ryan Tannehill. But give Tannehill some support and remove him from Miami and now he’s in the championship game and just put up the 4th highest QB rating and 8th highest yards per attempt in NFL history. Yes, I said NFL history.
Who’s laughing now?
Now ship Dak to Miami for a couple of seasons. No All-Pro linemen anywhere to be found, and you only get to play the Commanders and Giants once every four years. Nobody is talking about Dak except XFL talent scouts.
Who’s laughing now?

28 of you should be ashamed of yourselves

rocyaice said:

We traded for Quinn and he wasn’t 5 million. Cobb was but he was a rare instance. This team has used 5 million on the likes of Cedric Thornton, Nolan Carroll among others. If the Cowboys wanted a guy for 9 million and needed to free up 5 million they can do it easily like they always have by switching money around.

What you’re hoping for is unrealistic. Why are guys signing for less than market value lol? That never happens and rightfully so. If you want someone you have to overpay.

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so let me get this straight, saving money signing our players wont help our cap to bring in new players?

you can stop salivating over dak , wake up, any money saved helps build the team around him

5mil is start on one player then a few mil here and there on others for GD sure hleps..

moving on..

Really wouldn't want either. A rookie QB would be a few million or less per year and we'd be dealing with the same issues as Dak, just without that 20% salary cap figure.

The only think Dak had going for us was his rookie contract, that was wasted and I'd rather not see us continue trying to make him work.

CouchCoach said:

Then I would suggest re-watching that LSU game with tight NFL type coverage on his WR's. I like him too but that transition from college coverage to NFL coverage is what separates the men from the boys.

Tanking with a first year coach hasn't been done since Jimmy Johnson.

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I agree on not tanking but

the comments on Lawrence?
That's really silly.
Come on, you don't really think Lawrence consistently throwing high on sometimes wide-open WRs in the 2nd half means he's not going to be a great prospect do you?
His footwork was off and the ball was coming ut too high...and if you're 6'5 or 6'6, that means really high.
He has absolutely demolished defenses as good or better than what LSU had this year. Just a bad game for him.

Please note many of my comments are derive from what 'I think' Jerry Jones (in particular) and perhaps his DNA kid will do. Projecting what will likely happen, based on how Jones has generally acted previously, is my preferred way of addressing subject matter like this thread centers upon.

On lesser occasions, I will comment based solely on what I think is correct or incorrect despite what I believe the Jones would or would not do. Case in point, I was 100% in support of immediately re-inserting Romo back as a starter after being medically cleared in the 2016 season. My opinion was in direct opposition of not only what Jerry Jones thought but also those who shared his decision among fans and media alike.

Just pointing out how I mostly respond to posts. That said, I also admit Jones' mind is like a bad cats and I could sometimes be reading him COMPLETELY wrong.

Bullflop said:

Much depends if one is willing to take a chance with Cooper Rush if Dak is forced to sit out for a few games. It's not like that is such a far-fetched idea. There's no guarantee Dak will be ok with the shoulder that was injured at the end of last season. Just food for thought.

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I believe the gambler in Jones will ride with any mid-round, low-round, undrafted free agent, and/or acquired via trade veteran quarterback. Jones has generally followed this pattern with his other franchise quarterbacks in Aikman and Romo. It should be noted Jones also did so even with Romo's injury history. The injured shoulder question mark is a good point but I am virtually certain Jones will continue his backup quarterback strategy with Prescott too.

Bullflop said:

I would agree that there will be other needs to take care of before a backup QB comes into the picture, although if a good QB that appeals to the staff shows up, it's a possibility.

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"Good quarterback?" I agree completely. Even Jones has or will try and acquire any backup quarterbacks he believes has a capable skillset who would fill in if-and-when his franchise quarterback got sidelined.

However, if 'good quarterback' equates as 'potentially very good to great quarterback', I disagree. Point of emphasis. It is highly likely the thought never crossed his mind he would replace Romo with Prescott temporarily or permanently before and at the time he drafted Prescott. I do believe Jones' initial thought of Prescott not only being a solid backup but also as a replacement for Romo occurred after Prescott began demonstrating his potential during meaningful (e.g. regular) season games.

I should add that I have not adjusted my thinking based on the new source of player evaluation input that will now come from Mike McCarty and how Jones may be motivated by it. My opinion of how Jones may begin looking at a backup or potential franchise quarterback may change after watching their duo dynamic interacts in the future.

Bullflop said:

If Dak is adamant upon getting $40 mil, the FO could surely change their minds about drafting one.

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My opinion? I severely doubt it. I have stated for years I saw Prescott cementing Jones 100% backing as early as the second month of his rookie season. And that nothing has changed for Jones since that moment. Perhaps Prescott and Jones will not settle on a contract averaging on a $40 million per year salary but it shall not surprise me one iota if a final contract challenges that figure OR even exceed it. Jones will gamble with how the rest of his salary cap is divided up after the fact.

Jones will end up paying Prescott substantial franchise level quarterback money. Economics dictates it will happen. The supply of what Jones grades as franchise quarterbacks is tiny. HIs demand is high. Equivalent compensation will follow suit in meeting Jones' demand.

Just my two cents.

blueblood70 said:

so let me get this straight, saving money signing our players wont help our cap to bring in new players?

you can stop salivating over dak , wake up, any money saved helps build the team around him

5mil is start on one player then a few mil here and there on others for GD sure hleps..

moving on..

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Stop with the hyperbole and all this other crap. We are talking football right? No one is salivating over Dak. If you said replace Dak with someone just as good or better than I’m down. All for it. Especially a cheaper solution. But it’s like you are coming up with excuses on why to get rid of him. Saving 5 million is nothing.

But I do agree. We can agree to disagree and just move on since you aren’t capable of having a simple discussion or disagreement.

rocyaice said:

I agree but do you think our first rounder nest year is a high pick?

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Personally I consider all picks in the first two rounds and a good portion of the third round as high picks regardless of year, relative draft slot or team need.

Epic fail thread lol

Diehardblues said:

I’d tag Dak and draft someone. Several potential prospects in first round.

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Why spend a first rnd pick on a backup?

Sarge said:

Teddy Bridgewater is a joke.

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He’s a nice backup and will be again next year

Well as of right now at least 65% of the posters voting aren’t idiots!

Dak is and will be for the foreseeable future our starting QB. Now let’s fix the defense and ST’s and we’ll be a contender.

Why have some of you still not figured out Dak is here to stay and he's going to finally get paid. Hate all you want, it won't change anything.

JoeKing said:

Why have some of you still not figured out Dak is here to stay and he's going to finally get paid. Hate all you want, it won't change anything.

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It’s more fun for them to troll. I mean CAMPAIGN

Dallas Cowboys Quarterbacks Since 1989 (according to The Football Database)

[Disclaimer: I am uncertain this is a complete list]

~Jerry Jones buys team/names Jimmy Johnson head coach~

Aikman Era

Troy Aikman, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 1st round (1st overall) of the 1989 NFL Draft
Babe Laufenberg, Selected by the Washington Commanders in the 6th round (168th overall) of the 1983 NFL Draft
Steve Walsh, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 1st round of the 1989 NFL Supplemental Draft
Steve Beuerlein, Selected by the Los Angeles Raiders in the 4th round (110th overall) of the 1987 NFL Draft
Jason Garrett, Undrafted Offseason and/or practice squad member/New Orleans Saints 1989
Bernie Kosar, Selected by the Cleveland Browns in the 1st round of the 1985 NFL Draft

~Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson split~

Rodney Peete, Selected by the Detroit Lions in the 6th round (141st overall) of the 1989 NFL Draft
Wade Wilson, Selected by the Minnesota Vikings in the 8th round (210th overall) of the 1981 NFL Draft
Mike Quinn, Signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers as an undrafted free agent in 1997
Randall Cunningham, Selected by the Philadelphia Eagles in the 2nd round (37th overall) of the 1985 NFL Draft
Clint Stoerner, Signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2000
Anthony Wright, Signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers as an undrafted free agent in 1999

~Troy Aikman retires~

Quincy Carter, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2nd round (53rd overall) of the 2001 NFL Draft
Ryan Leaf, Selected by the San Diego Chargers in the 1st round (2nd overall) of the 1998 NFL Draft
Chad Hutchinson, Initially drafted by Atlanta Braves in the 1995 Major League Baseball Draft
Drew Henson, Selected by the Houston Texans in the 6th round (192nd overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft
Tony Romo, Signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2003
Vinny Testaverde, Selected by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the 1st round (1st overall) of the 1987 NFL Draft
Drew Bledsoe, Selected by the New England Patriots in the 1st round (1st overall) of the 1993 NFL Draft

Romo Era

Brad Johnson, Selected by the Minnesota Vikings in the 9th round (227th overall) of the 1992 NFL Draft
Isaiah Stanback, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 4th round (103rd overall) of the 2007 NFL Draft [converted to wide receiver]
Brooks Bollinger, Selected by the New York Jets in the 6th round (200th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft
Jon Kitna, Signed by the Seattle Seahawks as an undrafted free agent in 1996
Stephen McGee, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 4th round (101st overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft
Chris Greisen, Selected by the Arizona Cardinals in the 7th round (239th overall) of the 1999 NFL Draft
Kyle Orton, Selected by the Chicago Bears in the 4th round (106th overall) of the 2005 NFL Draft
Dustin Vaughan, Signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2014
Brandon Weeden, Selected by the Cleveland Browns in the 1st round (22nd overall) of the 2012 NFL Draft
Matt Cassel, Selected by the New England Patriots in the 7th round (230th overall) of the 2005 NFL Draft
Kellen Moore, Signed by the Detroit Lions as an undrafted free agent in 2012
Jameill Showers, Signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2015

~Tony Romo replaced following season~

Prescott Era

Dak Prescott, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 4th round (135th overall) of the 2016 NFL Draft
Mark Sanchez, Selected by the New York Jets in the 1st round (5th overall) of the 2009 NFL Draft
Cooper Rush, Signed by the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted free agent in 2017
Mike White, Selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 5th round (171st overall) of the 2018 NFL Draft




Maybe Mike McCarthy shall introduce a new drafting strategy concerning quarterbacks that is acceptable to Jerry Jones. However, I think it would be wise considering how Jones has both acquired quarterbacks in the past to gauge who and how he might acquire quarterbacks in the future--even the immediate future.

starfan1 said:

It’s more fun for them to troll. I mean CAMPAIGN

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They can "campaign" to the posters here all they want, I suppose. It changes nothing and just gets lame and annoying.

This is a total no-brainer. Teddy at a cheaper price gets us a strong DT and good safety.

Red Dragon said:

This is a total no-brainer. Teddy at a cheaper price gets us a strong DT and good safety.

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Things we'll get anyway.