If the Cowboys are going to pay top dollar for a quarterback there are better options

Melonfeud

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You’ve been banned 8 times by 5 different staff members, if you’re counting.
Pretty sure "I've" only been banned by two different MODERATORS around here, there,,,er,, Brougham's ,just saying ya know?o_O
 

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Cam Newton is going to be available. He would be amazing in Dallas.
I'd rather see Dallas get Cam than pay big money for Dak.
  • Case Keenum is available. He led the Vikings to the NFC Championship game. He is a better deal than Dak.
  • Marcus Mariota will be available. He would be better.
  • Tom Brady will probably be available.
And more.
As I said, I will back Dak if they sign him.
But there are much better options.

you can’t be serious. I’m no Dak fanboy, I like him soberly...but cmon....
Keenum sucks
Mariota sucks
Brady if you pry him away has maybe one year left and he wasn’t top form,
And finally
Dak > Cam.
There aren’t better options. The only option we really have if we want to try to get better at QB is tag and trade Dak and trade up to the top in the draft and then hope and pray the guy can play at the pro level, immediately.
 

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It's really amazing to see how many here will viciously defend Dak, despite the fact that he casually quit on the Cowboys this year and showed no fight whatsoever when it came to just watching the division title disappear.
He is a system quarterback at best, and showed no signs of leadership on the field when the team needed a lift.
Dak runs the plays that are called, but he doesn't elevate the team when needed.
well for one, i am not a huge dak fan. when we got him of course i had hopes, like all of us. in his first year when he put up some amazing numbers, i also took serious note of bad throws that just didn't get intercepted. there were a lot. his reads of the opposing D and overall gameplay left me flat to bored, to be honest. last year however, whether just experience, kitna or a combo, he turned it around. not sure i can ever really a huge DAK FAN just based off never caring much for him to begin with, but i'm not going to make it personal.

he's done very well. far as i know he's breaking quite a few of our qb records in his overall 4 year stint. staubauch, aikman, romo, and here comes dak to put up better #'s in his first 4 years than all of 'em.

ALL OF THEM.

maybe i agree that he doesn't show a lot of signs of "LEADERSHIP" in the way *I* would see it; but whatever he is showing, it *is* putting up numbers you're choosing to ignore so you can chase this phantom "leadership" mantra.

and yes, he does audible so let's not go crazy just because you don't like him.

he *is* a top qb of the current crop whether you like/believe it or not. those qb's get paid and usually set the record for $. until the next guy comes along and beats it so he can can he set it. and jones who most bash by the hour is also damn good about setting the $ in accordance with still needing to produce when he must. look at zekes last contract and suddenly since he'll lose the $, he's staying out of trouble. well, so far.

for the progress this team has made it would be superbowl suicide for many years to bring in a rookie and *hope* he's a mahomes.

the cowboys have a lot of problems, qb is not on that list. no sense in adding it to it just cause you don't like the guy there.
 

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The big problem I see with Dak is his weakness is what is most important to win in the playoffs. You have to be consistent and accurate. Last time Dak went on a 3 game roll it was against the Commanders, Giants and Miami. Can you imagine the Cowboys playing the 49rs because thats going to be the team to beat for the next few years. And thats just the NFC championship game. After watching Rodgers get stymied Dak wouldnt have a chance. Heck Dak cant even beat the Bills or Bears which are just clowns compared to the 49rs.
If this team is truly serious about getting better they need to tag Dak and evaluate him under a better coach along with drafting a QB in the 1st or 2nd round.
 

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Exactly! You would think they are related to Dak somehow. They actually want to see Dallas pay him 35 mil and cripple this team. Those arent Dallas fans they are Dak fans.

How about you, who viciously, attack Dak. It works both ways, lol. Stop starting stupid threads.
 

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How about you, who viciously, attack Dak. It works both ways, lol. Stop starting stupid threads.
yea, it's funny when you see one poster go all extreme on how bad the OTHER side is and then they roll right into being just as extreme with their own brand of stupid.
 

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you can’t be serious. I’m no Dak fanboy, I like him soberly...but cmon....
Keenum sucks
Mariota sucks
Brady if you pry him away has maybe one year left and he wasn’t top form,
And finally
Dak > Cam.
There aren’t better options. The only option we really have if we want to try to get better at QB is tag and trade Dak and trade up to the top in the draft and then hope and pray the guy can play at the pro level, immediately.
just FYI, he is a troll from ranch message board that got closed down (and he was ban from that board multiple occasions,,,,,one time for a whole year
 

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I'm just stating what I see it's not viciously attacking Dak. I can believe you idiots are defending paying Dak big money.

Let me see, naming worse QB's, as better. Nitpicking every game (this year). Refuse to discuss career wins, or stats. Complaining about his salary, knowing exactly how the league works. Unaware that Dak does not pay himself.
 

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Yeah you too!
you seem to see things as ALL IN or ALL OUT.

there are quite a few of us who live, think, breathe and the like in the gray areas. you know, where we realize dak is likely to get paid regardless of our personal feelings and while we may not think he's worth it, it isn't going to change it.

calling people idiots cause they don't get as riled up as you? pretty weak man.
 

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well for one, i am not a huge dak fan. when we got him of course i had hopes, like all of us. in his first year when he put up some amazing numbers, i also took serious note of bad throws that just didn't get intercepted. there were a lot. his reads of the opposing D and overall gameplay left me flat to bored, to be honest. last year however, whether just experience, kitna or a combo, he turned it around. not sure i can ever really a huge DAK FAN just based off never caring much for him to begin with, but i'm not going to make it personal.

he's done very well. far as i know he's breaking quite a few of our qb records in his overall 4 year stint. staubauch, aikman, romo, and here comes dak to put up better #'s in his first 4 years than all of 'em.

ALL OF THEM.

maybe i agree that he doesn't show a lot of signs of "LEADERSHIP" in the way *I* would see it; but whatever he is showing, it *is* putting up numbers you're choosing to ignore so you can chase this phantom "leadership" mantra.

and yes, he does audible so let's not go crazy just because you don't like him.

he *is* a top qb of the current crop whether you like/believe it or not. those qb's get paid and usually set the record for $. until the next guy comes along and beats it so he can can he set it. and jones who most bash by the hour is also damn good about setting the $ in accordance with still needing to produce when he must. look at zekes last contract and suddenly since he'll lose the $, he's staying out of trouble. well, so far.

for the progress this team has made it would be superbowl suicide for many years to bring in a rookie and *hope* he's a mahomes.

the cowboys have a lot of problems, qb is not on that list. no sense in adding it to it just cause you don't like the guy there.
Him putting up throwing numbers means as much as most nba players having 3pt records in this age. The game is slanted towards that now. Look at the top numbers guys passing this season all of them didn't even make the playoffs. People are choosing to ignore numbers in some cases because just like you you're using the numbers without context. A lot of those numbers against better teams were put up when the game doesn't matter. What good is all those numbers but when we face teams you'd need to beat to win where it really really counts you're junk? That's what I can't understand about the super pro Dak crew. They just hand wave the fact that Dak isn't as good against the type of teams we need to beat to win it all just to win some online discussion. Yeah his numbers look good if you take context out but we all should be better than that. Again and again I see we aren't because nobody can explain why he doesn't look as good against better teams without basically saying he's who I've always said he is minus his rookie year Alex. Smith Jr.
 

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Him putting up throwing numbers means as much as most nba players having 3pt records in this age. The game is slanted towards that now. Look at the top numbers guys passing this season all of them didn't even make the playoffs. People are choosing to ignore numbers in some cases because just like you you're using the numbers without context. A lot of those numbers against better teams were put up when the game doesn't matter. What good is all those numbers but when we face teams you'd need to beat to win where it really really counts you're junk? That's what I can't understand about the super pro Dak crew. They just hand wave the fact that Dak isn't as good against the type of teams we need to beat to win it all just to win some online discussion. Yeah his numbers look good if you take context out but we all should be better than that. Again and again I see we aren't because nobody can explain why he doesn't look as good against better teams without basically saying he's who I've always said he is minus his rookie year Alex. Smith Jr.
if that were the case then he would be in the middle of the pack in overall rankings cause hey - everyone is doing it.

look, i am not a dak fan but you can't dismiss his accomplishments out of whatever excuse you feel like lobbing out there. the TEAM has not done well and it's usually our defense letting us down. our offense did amazing things last year and needs some tweaking, not an overhaul.
 

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if that were the case then he would be in the middle of the pack in overall rankings cause hey - everyone is doing it.

look, i am not a dak fan but you can't dismiss his accomplishments out of whatever excuse you feel like lobbing out there. the TEAM has not done well and it's usually our defense letting us down. our offense did amazing things last year and needs some tweaking, not an overhaul.
I told you why that wasn't the case but maybe you missed it. He puts up garbage time stats and beats up on weak competition. Maybe you missed that part or didn't mention it clearly. If you want to use the everyone is doing to avoid how Dak gets most of his "superior" yards ok we can just agree to disagree on that.

As long as I'm consistent I'm going to dismiss Dak and any other QB I watch play every week doing the same thing. If you want to hand wave stuff that's your right. I'm not going to be fooled by someone beating up on tomato cans. Funny you mention the defense but in most games against the better teams they held the score down enough if mr all yards are the same would've played better maybe we could've won a few of those games. I don't think the D is great but that same logic you're using on Dak can be applied to the defense and how they held the score down in more games than people want to give them credit for. I guess we all have ways of not giving "credit" when we want to pump up our pov.
 

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I told you why that wasn't the case but maybe you missed it. He puts up garbage time stats and beats up on weak competition. Maybe you missed that part or didn't mention it clearly. If you want to use the everyone is doing to avoid how Dak gets most of his "superior" yards ok we can just agree to disagree on that.

As long as I'm consistent I'm going to dismiss Dak and any other QB I watch play every week doing the same thing. If you want to hand wave stuff that's your right. I'm not going to be fooled by someone beating up on tomato cans. Funny you mention the defense but in most games against the better teams they held the score down enough if mr all yards are the same would've played better maybe we could've won a few of those games. I don't think the D is great but that same logic you're using on Dak can be applied to the defense and how they held the score down in more games than people want to give them credit for. I guess we all have ways of not giving "credit" when we want to pump up our pov.
i didn't miss it - i just didn't "buy" it.

like i said, you tend to take answers you don't like and quickly categorize them into the OTHER extreme instead of listening to what said person is saying. at this point you're just hearing i don't agree with you and then assigning me ignorance you feel the need to explain.

again - i'm not a huge dak fan and i'd rather not spend bank on him. but i'm just some cube-bound mid tier professional working 9-5. what a way to make a living, huh? i don't analyze players for a living and i sure don't have to justify paying or not paying them. if jones would take my call i'd vote "no" on the big payday. however, then what?

ok - dak doesn't get paid. now dak leaves and we're signing a journeyman qb to drive a bus. that doesn't fill me with great antici...

...pation for the 2020 season. going YAY BRIDGEWATER would be about as exciting as screaming YAY VANILLA ICE CREAM!!!! TOO COLD TOO COLD!!!

you can call it consistency or whatever you wish to call it. doesn't make it true, just what you wish to call it.
 

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At least we wont have to put up with these threads much longer. They'll all be on the Giants forum when Dak follows Garrett - at latest after the 2020 season if franchised.
 

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i didn't miss it - i just didn't "buy" it.

like i said, you tend to take answers you don't like and quickly categorize them into the OTHER extreme instead of listening to what said person is saying. at this point you're just hearing i don't agree with you and then assigning me ignorance you feel the need to explain.

again - i'm not a huge dak fan and i'd rather not spend bank on him. but i'm just some cube-bound mid tier professional working 9-5. what a way to make a living, huh? i don't analyze players for a living and i sure don't have to justify paying or not paying them. if jones would take my call i'd vote "no" on the big payday. however, then what?

ok - dak doesn't get paid. now dak leaves and we're signing a journeyman qb to drive a bus. that doesn't fill me with great antici...

...pation for the 2020 season. going YAY BRIDGEWATER would be about as exciting as screaming YAY VANILLA ICE CREAM!!!! TOO COLD TOO COLD!!!

you can call it consistency or whatever you wish to call it. doesn't make it true, just what you wish to call it.
Nah Freud spare me the extreme bs talking point. I did the same thing you did and didn't buy what you said. I also said we can agree to disagree. I guess agreeing to disagree is making your points extreme. Sounds about wrong.
 
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