How do we get to the level of these 2 Superbowl teams?

Decision making

under our previous staff decision making was at an all time worse

Andy Reid is an HOF level offensive genius who has a HOF level QB pulling the trigger.

Kyle Shanahan is the best run game schemer in the league (he takes a lot of cues from his dad) and has a defense that he's invested an embarassing amount of draft capital and free agent dollars into. He only had those resource because he started with a horrible team 3 years ago.

That's the long and short of it, really. The Niners are going to get LA Rams'ed as soon as a few of their rookie contracts come due and their cap explodes. DeForest Buckner and Arik Armstead are up for extensions after this season - they're probably going to cost $20M-$25M between the two. George Kittle is eligible for an extension, and he's going to want probably $10-$15M (it's been a while since we've had a market-setting TE, tough to tell how his contract will go). SF has $11M in cap space. You can see how this is going to go.

The Chiefs are pretty much permanently in contention as long as Mahomes stays healthy and Reid stays out of retirement.

We are 1 GM away from competing on a level playing field. Ridding ourselves of Jerry having anything to do with football decisions is a must and the only competitive disadvantage we have.

Whirlwin said:

The worst part about our team was special-teams.

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Yep. And I think a good coach would’ve handled it.

The piece on Belichick a while back about his attention to special teams was good. I can’t see any was Garrett had any impact on special teams. As was evident by his explanation of the Tavon Austin fair catch.

I mean how many games were lost to those types of decisions or lack of decisions. He didn’t know how to run a team.

Well they do have Anthony Hitchens and Damien Wilson as their starting LBs.

This Cowboys team is a team that needs to create turnovers. For years, we have very rarely if ever won a game because the defense gave the offense a short field multiple times to lead to easy scores.

They don't take the ball away, so if they give it away it makes the offense's job even harder than it should be. In general it's just not a defense that's created any big plays for years.

The team was tied for 30th in the league with 7 takeaways this year. There are single guys in the league with more takeaways than our entire defense. I don't think this team would necessarily be in the super bowl this year, but with a defense that got 15+ takeaways they'd probably have had a first round bye instead of being 8-8.

Well. I'm no GM. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (simulated).

1. Fire Garrett. Bring in a proven SB HC like MM and real coaches.

2. Convince Dak and Cooper to take cap friendly deals.

3. Be a player in FA with what's left over.

4. Have a good solid draft. Get a little lucky by hitting on two immediate impact players.

5. Form an identity during the Summer. This is who we are going to be and this is how we are going to do it and get there. Keep everyone engaged and excited.

Then go on a run. No clapping. More smacking.

It's basically trying to emulate the Patriots model. Will it work for the Cowboys? I don't know. The Cowboys have been run like a corporation for so long. It may take more than 1 year to get rid of it.

CATCH17 said:

How far off are we?

I don't think we could ever be like the Chiefs because Mahomes is really that whole team. He's the best player in the NFL right now.

What we can replicate from the Chiefs is an offense that creates more explosive plays.

2 problems...

Dak is not an explosive big play QB.

Zeke was not an explosive RB at all this past season.

Defensively on paper I don't see us too far from the 9ers but when it plays out on the field our defense is nowhere near theirs.

I like our front 7 with Quinn. We need some help at DT.

Byron would be a big loss IMO. Especially with this coordinator.

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I thought the front 7 was very weak this year. Get the front 7 better then your secondary will be a lot better.

CATCH17 said:

How far off are we?

I don't think we could ever be like the Chiefs because Mahomes is really that whole team. He's the best player in the NFL right now.

What we can replicate from the Chiefs is an offense that creates more explosive plays.

2 problems...

Dak is not an explosive big play QB.

Zeke was not an explosive RB at all this past season.

Defensively on paper I don't see us too far from the 9ers but when it plays out on the field our defense is nowhere near theirs.

I like our front 7 with Quinn. We need some help at DT.

Byron would be a big loss IMO. Especially with this coordinator.

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#1 get rid of Jason -----Done

willia451 said:

Well. I'm no GM. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night (simulated).

1. Fire Garrett. Bring in a proven SB HC like MM and real coaches.

2. Convince Dak and Cooper to take cap friendly deals.

3. Be a player in FA with what's left over.

4. Have a good solid draft. Get a little lucky by hitting on two immediate impact players.

5. Form an identity during the Summer. This is who we are going to be and this is how we are going to do it and get there. Keep everyone engaged and excited.

Then go on a run. No clapping. More smacking.

It's basically trying to emulate the Patriots model. Will it work for the Cowboys? I don't know. The Cowboys have been run like a corporation for so long. It may take more than 1 year to get rid of it.

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Yeah Pizza , beer , and Cheerleaders ---the 3 staples of life

TheSkaven said:

The best comparison for the Cowboys right now is the Titans. The big difference is the coach. If this team had Mike Vrabel, I do believe they could have gotten to the NFC Championship game.

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Well said indeed Sir Vrabel installed a whole new attitude ---the Titans are a whole new team.

How far back are we? Defense must improve by leaps and bounds. Special teams must be a complete 180.
Then offense must continue to grow and be more consistent in the red zone.

The consistent Playoff teams have very good to great QB's - Brees, Brady, Wilson, Mahomes, Rodgers

Otherwise you have to scheme or play all 3 phases really really well- and out coach.

Out coaching and out schemeing works in short cycles and then gets caught up to.

To be there almost every year you have to have THAT QB!

Maybe MM brings that special year to Dallas but I don't think they will be consistently there with Dak.

Maybe if we actually get true talent instead of just make believe talent?

Aven8 said:

No doubt my boy Mahomes is a the best player in football, but they are loaded on offense. Best TE in football and the fastest team in football. They are the greatest team on grass. They would put 50 on us easy with our current defense. We have no one that could cover Hill or Kelce.

We would play our man scheme and Mahomes would have ran for 200 yards alone!

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I think Mahomes is one of those guys you can put anyone out there with and as long as they’re in the right spot he’ll get the job done.

He was scoring with the backup TE against Houston and made some no name receivers look like Pro Bowlers when Hill was out.

Mahomes is a goat and you were the first person to tell me about him when he was only a Sophomore or Junior.

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This won't be a popular opinion but i'd love to see them bring in Dez for a workout and see where he is at.

I think he could still be good in a Anquan Boldin type of role and let him do work in the redzone.

I know the team probably isn't going there but he is one of our all time greats and was done dirty. I think if he came back strong it would really energize the fan base too.

He's only 31 years old.

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i know this would not be popular with you ether, but Dez has never been Anquan Bolden like route runner, AB made it a perfection as
that was his sole dependant, while Dez was always made it after thought - and at 31 with further no separation skills post achilles injuy
-which his current age, demeanor, team bitterness and distraction will all the more reason NOT to even consider bringing him back.

heck i'd be far more for getting another version of Tyler Lockett or Mecole hardman (Chiefs) than i would considering Dez all over again.
Let's add some serious jet speed and return ability than these remembrance memories of Dez

Defense........Defense.........Defense............run the football

WillieBeamen said:

Need a better QB and defense

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If Dak signs for $36 mil/year we won't have to worry about being in the championship game. Dallas needs
to draft a great quarterback where he will be on rookie contract for four years.

CATCH17 said:

How far off are we?

I don't think we could ever be like the Chiefs because Mahomes is really that whole team. He's the best player in the NFL right now.

What we can replicate from the Chiefs is an offense that creates more explosive plays.

2 problems...

Dak is not an explosive big play QB.

Zeke was not an explosive RB at all this past season.

Defensively on paper I don't see us too far from the 9ers but when it plays out on the field our defense is nowhere near theirs.

I like our front 7 with Quinn. We need some help at DT.

Byron would be a big loss IMO. Especially with this coordinator.

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maybe unfair to compare to the Chiefs - they are unique in what they are and what they do. -and they constantly push the ball at you
thru entire field and especially with over top deep shots and they scheme their speed so very well- they are not unbeatable though.

Niners are more horizonal - they attack east-west with out routes,slants, jet sweeps, and an assortment of misdirection in both pass game and run game i love their trap run game - its' typical Shanahan style and RB friendly
and i think we stand a chance to mimic the Niners than we could ever think of with the Chiefs.

- if Jimmy Grappalo can generate and lead his team to Superbowl - thus Dak and Cowboys could eventually do the same. IF - we prove we are a very capable - competent coaching staff and management - and we rebuild this defense to the equal of Niners

- if you ask jimmy G to straight drop back and beat you like that - then you stand a better chance
when he can use run game to use play action passes - he is more of a threat against you-

- i am wanting to get our zeke-pollard run game back as well - as use our RBs in pass game as Niners do, so that helps dak become a much better threat against defenses on play action passes.

- where Niners really have us is at WR and TE - rookie WR Debo Samuel is bringing it every week and growing stronger with experience - he can make plays in pass game and in his run -plays (ala jet sweeps) he is growing into a promising looking Lead No.1 WR
that's an area i'm starting to doubt we have in Cooper.

- also at TE - we have nothing that resembles George Little as he was a force in pass game and in line blocking. Jarwin has been more of a spot play guy and not one teams gotta scheme for.

My response from another thread...

Football is actually a pretty simple game. The 4 teams in the two championship games this weekend gave us a consistent reminder about the simplicity of the game- the teams that win are the ones that have these consistent qualities game in, game out:

1. They can block well.
2. They can tackle well.
3. They are physically and mentally tough.

Obviously you have to have some talent. So add talent to the three qualities above and you have a chance to be a team that wins in the playoffs.

The niners were tough as nails yesterday and the chiefs have proven to have great mental toughness 2 weeks in a row by failing behind by 2 or more scores and coming back.

Fundamentals and toughness dog...