Teams are trying to convince themselves qb is good enough

bandfan · Jan 20, 2020

Rayman70 said:
exactly. Its really sad and bizarre. jimmy g IS PLAYING IN A SB RIGHT NOW..and didn't have the year Dak did..but if they win, he will be considered elite lol.. ITS STUPID.

I stay on here strictly for the entertainment value. :lmao:

Reid1boys · Jan 20, 2020

Rayman70 said:
no matter..if it works..hey why change it? You can run simple stuff and make it look different if you add some wrinkles to it. Its the subtle stuff. Those boys on the oline were pushing the GB packers back 10 yards all day. They had no shot.

why didnt they do that last year?

rags747 · Jan 20, 2020

Rayman70 said:
exactly. Its really sad and bizarre. jimmy g IS PLAYING IN A SB RIGHT NOW..and didn't have the year Dak did..but if they win, he will be considered elite lol.. ITS STUPID.

How did Jimmy not have the yr that Dak had? Better completion %, better yards per pass and it’s only Year 2 in the Jimmy G experiment.

zekecowboy · Jan 20, 2020

CATCH17 said:
Completely agree except.. I think Dak is good enough if the roster around him can carry him. He just doesn't enhance the talent around him.

I agree BUT if Dallas overpays for Dak, say 36 million, Dallas will NOT be able to enhance the talent around him.

Rayman70 · Jan 20, 2020

Reid1boys said:
why didnt they do that last year?

FIGURE IT OUT

KJJ · Jan 20, 2020

rags747 said:
How did Jimmy not have the yr that Dak had? Better completion %, better yards per pass and it’s only Year 2 in the Jimmy G experiment.

There is no Jimmy G experiment, the 49ers were sold on him when they gave up a second round pick for him and paid him 28M per season. Jimmy had a very solid season and it helped that he has a terrific defense. He hardly had to do anything yesterday but turn around and hand off the ball.

Rayman70 · Jan 20, 2020

rags747 said:
How did Jimmy not have the yr that Dak had? Better completion %, better yards per pass and it’s only Year 2 in the Jimmy G experiment.

Just say it. You don't like Dak. lol Jimmy G deserves to be in the SB btw..just as much as Dak would. Jimmy G has had the benefit of much more competent people around him. I think thats glaringly obvious.

Rayman70 · Jan 20, 2020

KJJ said:
There is no Jimmy G experiment, the 49ers were sold on him when they gave up a second round pick for him and paid him 28M per season. Jimmy had a very solid season and it helped that he has a terrific defense. He hardly had to do anything yesterday but turn around and hand off the ball.

^^^this^^^...THANK YOU.

KJJ · Jan 20, 2020

Rayman70 said:
^^^this^^^...THANK YOU.

You’re welcome!

JBond · Jan 20, 2020

Bigdog said:
Mahomes is good but one of the greatest? As Bill Parcells would say let’s put the HOF anointed oil away for now. I’ll admit he has the skills set to be one of the greatest but that doesn’t make you great until he has proven it. He needs to win SBs to be discuss as one of the greatest. Although he is fun to watch.

How do you view Marino?

JBond · Jan 20, 2020

IheartRomo said:
Totally agree with you. I'm simply talking about his level of play at this point time. It's a level that very few have ever reached for a 2 stretch season. Of course, he'll need longevity.

Baring injury Mahomes will rewrite the NFL record book. He already has in two seasons starting.

Rayman70 · Jan 20, 2020

JBond said:
How do you view Marino?

Marino was Mahomes before Mahomes. He didn't have a good enough defense around him to win it all. My fear is the same thing could happen to Patrick.

IceStar-D7 · Jan 20, 2020

Reid1boys said:
This is great. Collin hit it on the head. He says that half the teams in the league are trying to convince themselves that their QB is good enough. The bears...... yep. Remember the chiefs with Smith? The would say he is good enough... and as Colin said... no he isnt.

And here we are trying to convince ourselves Dak is good enough. Did you watch Mahomes? Sad part is what else do you do?

Mahomes is gonna make 40 million. Dak 35. So Mahomes is 5 million better then Dak. Where's Rodgers-Brady-Wentz-Wilson-Cousins????? All at home just like Dak. And with better coaching. This HATE is comical....

rags747 · Jan 20, 2020

Rayman70 said:
Just say it. You don't like Dak. lol Jimmy G deserves to be in the SB btw..just as much as Dak would. Jimmy G has had the benefit of much more competent people around him. I think thats glaringly obvious.

Lol, read my history...I like Dak. The inference was that Jimmy G sucked, I just stated that he did not as shown by his stats this year. Lol or is it LMAO. Lol...

Bigdog · Jan 20, 2020

JBond said:
How do you view Marino?

He ranks as one of the greats as he did it over a long period of time. Mahomes has played for two years although they have been very good years statistically and team wise I would not put him up with the greats just yet. Now if he consistently does this than I would. He definitely has the skills to be one of the great ones.

gjkoeppen · Jan 20, 2020

Proof said:
disagree, it’s evident. We can argue greatest careers when it’s all said and done, but he’s one of the best to ever play already easily.

OK you keep on thinking that and have funny in your little fairy tale world. The rest of us will wait for more that just 2 seasons before anointing him one of the best ever. If you can't see how ridiculously stupid that is there is no help for you.
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gjkoeppen · Jan 20, 2020

InTheZone said:
true, but there's no doubt he's no fraud.

Yes he's had a couple of good years but like I said until he does this for 6, 7, 8 more years it's way way way to early to start throwing one of the best ever.
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stilltheguru · Jan 20, 2020

There isnt a mahomes in the draft this year. Maybe trevor Lawrence can be that

gjkoeppen · Jan 20, 2020

IheartRomo said:
Not for a career just yet but for a 2 season peak? He’s absolutely in the discussion. Been an extraordinary 2 seasons.

I've already said he's had a couple of really good seasons but it's way way way to early to start saying he's one of the best ever. If ghe continues like this for another 6, 7, 8 years then maybe he can get into that conversation but not based on just 2 seasons.
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CyberB0b · Jan 21, 2020

So we are just going to ignore the fact that Jimmy G completed 6 passes against the Packers?

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