Would you take Teddy at under 25 million Or Tak Dak for over 35 million?

Would you take Teddy at under 25 million Or Tak Dak for over 35 million

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blueblood70

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Jake said:
Teddy just made $12.5 million backing up Brees in 2019 so good luck with that.

I'd swear some folks just pull numbers out of the sky based solely on feelings.
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he would still take 22 I know that a journeymen salary is right about there and thats like 14 less then dak..is Dak better? I think maybe about the same...thats the point..
 
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blueblood70 said:
the article is SPOT ON..wake up..

why guys like Tannehill and Garoppolo making less made the playoffs? others like RW and those in the 34plus range have made superbowls..

we dont need a list of 10, I do like dak but not mortgaging our future paying élite money to an average QB, hes not bad but hes far from Elite..thats the argument..

no tons of good layers made under 30 this season just because salarys are inflated doesnt mean makignuder that makes me hater for saying so..Payig wentz and Goff way above their worth should be signal ie warning for us to not go with the trend but to buck it..

we can drft another dak ie Jhurts in the 4th round build the defnse and go back to what not only has worked for us but teams like San farn, tiotans, and other teams this year that made the playoffs, a strong run game..we have Pollard and Zeke and an Oline to do this..

a case keenum was on a 10-6 playoff team, tannehaill this season, and the past shows if you build around them a journeymen lie fitzpatrick , foles, a dalton etc can help bridge to the next QB..take that 35 mil and spread it around the defense..new coaches, beter special teams, stronger defense, back to a run game oriented offense and we dont need an overpaid QB to run it..

you either have an aelite guy makig big money that can carry ateam at times vs an avg qb makig n elite money that cripples the aboity to build around a qb making less..

you can do both pay the elite guys the big money and if it challenges your roster fine but you cant waste respources on a qb if he has yet to proive he can put the team on his back when we really need it..

I truly do support dak, i do like him but not at that kind of money, i see the risk..The DC FO also should..
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Tell me the players you want to sign with that $10m.

Tanny and G are worse, and the article is the same regurgitated, meaningless nonsense that gets thrown around here. The whole garbage time thing is absolutely ridiculous.

You need a list of 10 to say that Dak is average. Tell me what QBs would come in and regularly "put this team on their back." lmao

You don't like him if you think Tanny and G are better.
 
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Future said:
Tell me the players you want to sign with that $10m.

Tanny and G are worse, and the article is the same regurgitated, meaningless nonsense that gets thrown around here. The whole garbage time thing is absolutely ridiculous.

You need a list of 10 to say that Dak is average. Tell me what QBs would come in and regularly "put this team on their back." lmao

You don't like him if you think Tanny and G are better.
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they are better options for the MONEY..I explained why, jeez.. you use the money and make the run game, defense and special teams the focal point.. like the teams those players are on did as well...you either lean on and pay and elite guy or you build agreat team around an average qb who costs less..

I didnt say they were better but they are for sure in the same tier..tannehill played better in December then dak..

theres only a handful of elite then the tier 2 lists comes and Daks 5 places down from where i sit maybe at 10-12 RANKING, to me that 30 or under club
 
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blueblood70 said:
they are better options for the MONEY..I explained why, jeez.. you use the money and make the run game, defense and special teams the focal point.. like the teams those players are on did as well...you either lean on and pay and elite guy or you build agreat team around an average qb who costs less..

I didnt say they were better but they are for sure in the same tier..tannehill played better in December then dak..

theres only a handful of elite then the tier 2 lists comes and Daks 5 places down from where i sit maybe at 10-12 RANKING, to me that 30 or under club
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Hypothetical explanations are absolutely meaningless.

Name the players you'd sign.
Name the 10 QBs who would have been better in Dallas last year. Then name the 10 QBs who will be a better value contract in two years.
 
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I’d pay a grand to get poopydrag to go find some other team’s forum to troll.
 
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Future said:
Hypothetical explanations are absolutely meaningless.

Name the players you'd sign.
Name the 10 QBs who would have been better in Dallas last year. Then name the 10 QBs who will be a better value contract in two years.
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your opinion means about the same as mine because you are the FO and dak still unsigned says a lot..its ALL hypothetical nothing in this zone means squat , the team isnt asking us..

here many to choose from , a great year to go grab a journeymen for half what dak wants and draft a guy that starts in 2021/2022..you act as if Daks irepacbale and the Fo should severly overpay him?thats insane



https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/
 
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blueblood70 said:
your opinion means about the same as mine because you are the FO and dak still unsigned says a lot..its ALL hypothetical nothing in this zone means squat , the team isnt asking us..

here many to choose from , a great year to go grab a journeymen for half what dak wants and draft a guy that starts in 2021/2022..you act as if Daks irepacbale and the Fo should severly overpay him?thats insane

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/
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If Dak is average, it should be very easy for you to tell me 10 guys who would have been better in Dallas last year.

$35m isn't an overpay, it's market. Probably below market.
 
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I feel like Teddy is more of a stop gap/back up whereas Dak has the potential to lead a franchise for years.
 

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Future said:
Hypothetical explanations are absolutely meaningless.

Name the players you'd sign.
Name the 10 QBs who would have been better in Dallas last year. Then name the 10 QBs who will be a better value contract in two years.
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That's such a weird arbitrary goalpost.
 
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This is a dumb question.. Bridgewater can't throw over 5 yards most of the time and is an absolute lazy and uninspired leader... Bridgewater is where he needs to be, a backup..
 
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In a word.... No. No way in Hades. .

I'm with the group that says Let Dak test the waters out there. If he ends up someplace else? That's fine. Won't sign the tag? Holds out? Be done with him.
 
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I voted for Teddy. I'm a Dak supporter and want him to be the franchise QB that I believe he can be. But Teddy is good and I can't justify losing 10 million in cap space that can go towards building a complete team. My dream scenario is keeping Dak and building a complete team. But my dreams with the Cowboys hasn't come true since '95.
 
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Teddy Bridgewater at vet minimum won’t win is anything of importance. Teddy at $25 million per year gets us 6-10. He sucks.
 
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SackMaster said:
I find it amusing that some here consider Dak and Teddy as "essentially the same QB" but for some reason they believe you can get the "same QB" in the NFL at a much different rate.

Looking at sportrac, they estimate the value of players based off their actual production.

Teddy is "worth" $20 million a year:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/teddy-bridgewater-14441/market-value/

Dak is "worth" $33 million a year:
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/market-value/

So giving Teddy $25 million a year, or 120% above his market value, that would be like paying Dak $41+ million a year.

I am not going to OVERPAY for LESS.

That just simple math.
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Couple of problems with spotracs comparison. Eagles and Rams probably have buyers remorse. Daks passing td #s are considerably lower than other QBs.
I heard a former NFL player say that the problem with using stats to make an argument is both sides can use different stats to tilt the argument their way. He said stats are for losers.
 
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Hadenough said:
Couple of problems with spotracs comparison. Eagles and Rams probably have buyers remorse. Daks passing td #s are considerably lower than other QBs.
I heard a former NFL player say that the problem with using stats to make an argument is both sides can use different stats to tilt the argument their way. He said stats are for losers.
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While I will not say 30 passing TDs is all-world or anything, it was more passing TDs this year than Aaron Rodgers and only 1 behind Russell Wilson who both played all 16 games this season. Infact, the leader this year only had 36, and if you extrapolate the highest TD rate for those QBs that missed time, Drew Brees would have had 39 and Mahomes was only on pace for 30 himself.

So in a year where virtually everyone's passing TDs went down, even some drastically declining, Dak's significantly improved. Some will try to say it was all due to garbage time, but Dak threw more TDs in the first half than the second half, and broken down by quarter, was 4-12-7-7. So Dak almost had as many TDs in the 2nd Quarter than in the 3rd and 4th combined. Take away from that as you will, but Dak was productive outside of garbage time too.

And as far as former players opinions, I couldn't care less. Most former players opinions contradict what other former player opinions are, and when it suits them, these former players / talking heads will even flip their own agenda to make their point. So keep an eye on the guy who says stats are for losers and I'm willing to bet he will use stats to justify his opinion when it helps his argument.

Like the old disclaimer said, "They are for entertainment purposes only." That's how I feel about opinions of former players or sport commentators. They are not there to be right, they are there to be entertaining, so they have high viewer ratings, so they can turn around and make lots of money in ad revenue.
 
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