Cowboys Cap Outlook and Potential Cuts/Restructures

dallasdave · Jan 20, 2020

Kaiser said:
They probably won't even get to the point of needing it but DLaw has 17 Million in Salary, Zack Martin 10 and Frederick 7. They can easily free up 25 Million in cap space from those three deals if they want to do it.

Great points

Tussinman · Jan 20, 2020

Hadenough said:
I was looking at this the other day and the Cowboys have about 20 players who are FAs so that cap space isnt really as large as it appears. Smith has been restructured a couple times already and he is boat anchor dragging this offensive line down. Every season we hear about how his back feels great and about 4 weeks into the season he is managing his reps then at 8 weeks his isnt practicing and he playing the rest of the season hurt. And when he is out there he is just a shell of a player compared to what he was. This team needs to move on from him. Crawford needs to go also. The Cowboys need to look at the draft to add for help at LT and DT

One of the worst post i've ever read on this entire forum.

"Dragging the offensive line down" ???? He's the 2nd highest rated LT in the entire NFC........

"Every season we hear about his back" ????? . Uh then why was the only major injury he had this year was his 40 million dollar QB crashing into his ankle ?

Tyrons demise is literally the most exagerrated narrative on this entire forum. All we heard in 2017 was him "crashing and burning" yet he played BETTER in 2018. Then in 2019 all we heard about is how his back is done and yet the only signficant injury he had was a fluke injury caused by ANOTHER player (Dak Prescott).

stilltheguru · Jan 21, 2020

DCCowboys11 said:
Let Byron Jones walk. You pay corners for good coverage and PICKS (which he doesn’t get). He will not be worth the $$$$ and can be replaced in the draft.

Nahhhh we need him. Chido is gone next year. We will need his replacement ready

Verdict · Jan 21, 2020

vnick said:
Much has been made about the number of FA the Cowboys have and who will get deals, etc.

According to Over the Cap, the Cowboys have approximately 81 million in cap space. Assuming deals for Cooper and Dak (either by tag or extension), will probably eat 50 million or more of that. A little less if extensions as the hit can be spread out a little more. I do think the Cowboys can keep both of those and still keep at least one of Collins or Jones if they choose. But where could the Cowboys get some savings if they wanted. Here are my top contenders.

1. Tyrone Crawford. Crawford is due to count 9.1 million to the cap in 2020, but could be cut and save 8 million. I really can't see the Cowboys bringing him back at the 8 million base salary. He's coming off injury and aging. Crawford is well-respected in the locker room and does bring some versatility along the line. That being said, his money could be used in other areas. I could see a restructure to a base of 4-5 million getting the Cowboys back 3 million is space.

2. Tyron Smith. In 2020, Smith is due to count 13.5 million to the cap. I do not believe Smith will be cut, but he could be due for a restructure. He has four more years on his deal and the last two of those he has no more of his prorated bonus. The Cowboys could convert as much as 6-7 million of his salary into a bonus and spread it over the remaining four years. This restructure would make him more expensive down the road and push a cap charge later if we decided to cut him. This move would only happen if the Cowboys find themselves in a cap crunch to keep the players they would like.

3. Chris Jones. Jones counts 2.4 million to the 2020 cap. The Cowboys could save 1.4 cutting Jones or even more post June 1. Jones has declined as a punter in recent years and replacement punters can be found cheaply. Personally, I do not believe Jones's performance warrants the investment. I don't see the Cowboys cutting Jones outright, but if a replacement is found he could easily be cut to find space if needed.

Personally, I believe the Cowboys can create enough cap space to keep Dak, Cooper, and at least one of Collins or Jones if they desire and maybe even fit all of them.

I think this exercise is a worthy exercise. I can see us chopping players or negotiating salary reductions. But I would be a little bit surprised to see us get out the credit card so to speak by restructuring Tyron’s salary or others.

We worked far too hard for far too long to get out of debt to jump right back into that same situation.

Verdict · Jan 21, 2020

Tussinman said:
One of the worst post i've ever read on this entire forum.

"Dragging the offensive line down" ???? He's the 2nd highest rated LT in the entire NFC........

"Every season we hear about his back" ????? . Uh then why was the only major injury he had this year was his 40 million dollar QB crashing into his ankle ?

Tyrons demise is literally the most exagerrated narrative on this entire forum. All we heard in 2017 was him "crashing and burning" yet he played BETTER in 2018. Then in 2019 all we heard about is how his back is done and yet the only signficant injury he had was a fluke injury caused by ANOTHER player (Dak Prescott).

His demise could easily be on the horizon. He has health issues. Why pretend that he is perfectly healthy? No one has a crystal ball to know how long he can hold up but keep in mind he has a lot of miles on that big frame at one of the most difficult positions in football.

Future · Jan 21, 2020

stilltheguru said:
I mean if they can afford it why not. Fine with me

Malik Collins >>>>>>> Jordan Phillips

Cattle_Rancher · Jan 21, 2020

I’d say cut Crawford. Not really interested in resigning M Collins I think better can be had in free agency and draft. BJ I’m not sure what to do just don’t spend big. When it comes to punters and kickers I think they should bring in 3-4 of each to mini camps narrow it to two of each and let them fight it out in training camp and preseason hopefully can find two cheap rookies to fill the kicking duties.

CooterBrown · Jan 21, 2020

Chris Jones had a bad year, but most of the players had bad years. Lack of effort and intensity shows up in punters too. I don't think his leg died, I think he just didn't care. His job was secure and like everybody else, with no accountability laziness set in. I think he will rebound this year.

Tussinman · Jan 21, 2020

Verdict said:
His demise could easily be on the horizon. He has health issues. Why pretend that he is perfectly healthy?

I think you missed my point. I'm not saying he's sunshine and rainbows but at the same time I realize this is a brutal sport and ALL players are going to miss time.

The problem is idiots on this forum only watch/follow the cowboys so they exagerrate everything because they don't have a base-line. Injuries happen in football, there's tons of LT this year that missed more time than Tyron. Just because someone is a little banged up doesn't mean you can go around screaming "cut him cut him" or "he's dragging are time down". You could technically argue that his health has been trending upwords not downwards (if it wasn't for dak crashing his ankles this would of been the healthiest season he's had since 2016).

The ironic thing is both of the left tackles playing in the super-bowl this year (Staley and Fisher) both missed 8 games this year.......... (yeah Tyron is the one that's "done and finished"

).

Hadenough · Jan 21, 2020

Tussinman said:
One of the worst post i've ever read on this entire forum.

"Dragging the offensive line down" ???? He's the 2nd highest rated LT in the entire NFC........

"Every season we hear about his back" ????? . Uh then why was the only major injury he had this year was his 40 million dollar QB crashing into his ankle ?

Tyrons demise is literally the most exagerrated narrative on this entire forum. All we heard in 2017 was him "crashing and burning" yet he played BETTER in 2018. Then in 2019 all we heard about is how his back is done and yet the only signficant injury he had was a fluke injury caused by ANOTHER player (Dak Prescott).

Congrats for not recognizing Tyrons struggles. Just because his ankle was messed up doesnt mean his back issues are all healed up and fine.

Tussinman · Jan 21, 2020

Hadenough said:
Congrats for not recognizing Tyrons struggles

The struggles of being a top 3 NFC LT every year and having health that's trending upwards ? :huh:

Yeah not seeing the "boat anchor that's dragging this team down". If anything where getting him at a steal

Hadenough · Jan 21, 2020

Tussinman said:
The struggles of being a top 3 NFC LT every year and having health that's trending upwards ?

Yeah not seeing the "boat anchor that's dragging this team down". If anything where getting him at a steal

13.5 mil isnt a steal. Remember when running left was the most profitable. Well now it's running right. He isnt the player he was.

Tussinman · Jan 21, 2020

Hadenough said:
13.5 mil isnt a steal.

10 million is his base rate which is a steal. Anything above the 10 million base rate was the cowboys doing by optionally forcing money down the road (he's not even one of the top 10 highest paid tackles in the entire NFL yet he's still a top 3 NFC Left tackle, his contract is a literally STEAL).

Hadenough said:
Well now it's running right

Outside runs to the left are actually very successfull and Tyron even gets called out by commentators at least 3 times a game when they run outside left :huh:

The only left side they struggle/avoid is running between him and Williams since Williams gets blown up every single run play

Hadenough said:
He isnt the player he was.

He's not the unanimous #1 line-man in the entire NFL like he use to be but reality is Tyron Smith at 80% health is still better than 90% of NFL starters........ (that's actually a good thing, especially for someone you have under contract for 13 years)

Hadenough · Jan 21, 2020

Tussinman said:
10 million is his base rate which is a steal. Anything above the 10 million base rate was the cowboys doing by optionally forcing money down the road (he's not even one of the top 10 highest paid tackles in the entire NFL yet he's still a top 3 NFC Left tackle, his contract is a literally STEAL).

Gonna have to disagree!! This online isnt the same and Smith isnt the same. His refusal to have surgery has hurt this team at the end the season.

Tussinman · Jan 21, 2020

Hadenough said:
Gonna have to disagree!! This online isnt the same and Smith isnt the same. His refusal to have surgery has hurt this team at the end the season.

O-line isn't the same as say 2014 or 2016 but reality is there still a top 5 unit (which would mean there not even a top 10 concern of the team).

2019 was a great year for them, even with shaky play at LG (if they can get the LG situation better than 2020 unit will easily be top 2 or 3 unit in the NFL).

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