Video: Dak Prescott should hold out if franchise tagged

USArmyVet said:

Difference between a true Franchise QB and a middle of the road QB:

QB #1
31 Games 1,099 Attempts 724 Completions 65.9 % Comp. 9,412 Yards 76 TD's 18 INT's 108.9 QBR 110 Rushes 500 Yards 4 TD's Team Record as Starter 24 Wins 8 Losses Playoff Record 3 Wins 1 Loss

QB #2
64 Games 2,071 Attempts 1,363 Completions 65.8% Comp. 15,778 Yards 97 TD's 36 INT's 97 QBR 241 Rushes 1,221 Yards 21 TD's Team Record as Starter 40 Wins 24 Losses Playoff Record 0 Wins 2 Losses


QB #1 is Pat Mahomes and QB #2 is Dak Prescott. A QB can run up all the stats they want in garbage games and claim they deserve to be paid as a top franchise QB but the only stat that matters is do they elevate the team to the Super Bowl????? Well, in only is 2nd season as a starer Mahomes has done that whereas Dak in 4 seasons is nothing but a stat compiler.

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Dak has 1 playoff win...not 0. Just wanted to correct this.

Dak hold out LOL....where's he going to go lol.....no one wants him as there starting QB not even at a league min contract!

“Dak had ZERO comeback wins in 2019.”

I agree he should hold out. Start rush, win 3 games get the 4th pick in the draft and take a QB who won't cost 30+ million and let Dak goto another team.

Hawkeye0202 said:

Amazing how Dak gets blamed entirely for losses but is only a bus driver for wins.......nevermind he's played for a coach and OC almost fans thinks should've been replaced years ago. Our fans

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Amazing how some will lie to get their point across. You can find the threads on this site from earlier in the seaosn that hyped Dak up like he's the one man gang when we were 3-0 saying take that haters and blah blah blah. Now all of a sudden you claim these things don't exist. Must be your settings are only set to show "negative" Dak post so you can look like some non bias pro Dak person. I don't have those settings on my profile so I see both types of post pro and con.

USArmyVet said:

Difference between a true Franchise QB and a middle of the road QB:

QB #1
31 Games 1,099 Attempts 724 Completions 65.9 % Comp. 9,412 Yards 76 TD's 18 INT's 108.9 QBR 110 Rushes 500 Yards 4 TD's Team Record as Starter 24 Wins 8 Losses Playoff Record 3 Wins 1 Loss

QB #2
64 Games 2,071 Attempts 1,363 Completions 65.8% Comp. 15,778 Yards 97 TD's 36 INT's 97 QBR 241 Rushes 1,221 Yards 21 TD's Team Record as Starter 40 Wins 24 Losses Playoff Record 0 Wins 2 Losses


QB #1 is Pat Mahomes and QB #2 is Dak Prescott. A QB can run up all the stats they want in garbage games and claim they deserve to be paid as a top franchise QB but the only stat that matters is do they elevate the team to the Super Bowl????? Well, in only is 2nd season as a starer Mahomes has done that whereas Dak in 4 seasons is nothing but a stat compiler.

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I don't know if anybody fixed this yet for you but Dak does have one playoff win. I'm for saying he's average but gotta give him his real stats.

CATCH17 said:

No there should be a bunch of mediocre QB's who will be available. I like Mariotta but Derek Carr is my first choice if made available.

I also like the idea of Tom Brady if he'll sign a 1 year deal that allows us to trade up for Tua.

Tom Brady playing in a dome with these weapons could be the equivalent of Manning in Denver.

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I don't even understand how the person you quoted can use such silly logic. If we don't sign Dak there will be no free agency or no draft to replace Dak like the season start as soon as the SB is over. Y'all are better than me because I don't have time for grown me to be that emo over this situation and that logic is super emo IMO.

I hope he doesn't but he has the leverage.

This FO is terrified of free agents and if Cooper Rush plays, we won't win a single game.

Philmonroe said:

I don't even understand how the person you quoted can use such silly logic. If we don't sign Dak there will be no free agency or no draft to replace Dak like the season start as soon as the SB is over. Y'all are better than me because I don't have time for grown me to be that emo over this situation and that logic is super emo IMO.

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We have to learn from our past and what is trending in the league.

I loved Romo and thought he was truly one of the best QB's in the league. That contract he signed basically ended all hope for him ever having a championship. There was always a leaky valve somewhere on a team that didn't believe in scheming opponents.

That is on a Micro scale.

On a macro scale it's working out the same way.

A high paid QB winning a championship would be an outlier at this point.

KingintheNorth said:

I hope he doesn't but he has the leverage.

This FO is terrified of free agents and if Cooper Rush plays, we won't win a single game.

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So you're telling me we get Trevor Lawrence if we sit through Cooper Rush for a year? I'm down...

charron said:

I agree he should hold out. Start rush, win 3 games get the 4th pick in the draft and take a QB who won't cost 30+ million and let Dak goto another team.

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Ok, let's do that. Who is going to explain to the season ticket holders that pay the highest price in the league that they're purposefully tanking the season? But they will receive no partial refund.

Have you ever seen anything in Booger's makeup that would lead him to do that? He's not going to win the fight but he will go down swinging. That's how they convinced him to fire Phillips, the team had quit and that is unacceptable to him.

And let's play that out. Prescott goes on and is a pretty good QB on a better team and makes the playoffs and that QB that won't cost 30M is the new Ryan Leaf. The bird in the hand flew and the bush burned.

The one question they should be asking isn't whether he's elite or not. It is can he lead the team to a SB and I have yet to see that can't happen as he wasn't the reason they lost those playoff games.

The last thing any fan ever worries about when their team wins a SB is how much is the QB being paid.

KingintheNorth said:

I hope he doesn't but he has the leverage.

This FO is terrified of free agents and if Cooper Rush plays, we won't win a single game.

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Rush could not do worse than Prescott.
He's got better accuracy and pocket presence.
You Dak lovers are in for a very lonely spring!

CanadianCowboysFan said:

ok, then who plays QB for us next season? Are you prepared to go into the season with Cooper Rush as the starter?

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I don't think Cooper Rush is the starter. Hell, I don't even think Cooper Rush is on the team next year. He'll cost a million or so if we keep him.

But there are several Vet QBs that will likely be available out there and there are several QBs in the draft that can be taken and groomed. I think it's possible to sign a QB and truth be told, if Dak sits out, then no cap is spent on Dak so plenty of money would be available to sign a viable QB in FA.

JMO

CATCH17 said:

I agree with Bart Scott.
0-5 against top 10 defenses.. 8 TDs and 7 turnovers..

Pay the man lol

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Wrong
He should only play under the Tag and then sign a monster contract with the new CBA in place

CATCH17 said:

So you're telling me we get Trevor Lawrence if we sit through Cooper Rush for a year? I'm down...

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He will most likely go 1st so might have to lose more than 13. And you might have some competition in the tanking.

And where will you be sitting while Cooper Rush weaves his magic? At home or at a sports bar or sitting in ATT with 4 season tickets for your family. Booger would never do that to those fans. Even when they only won 4 and got the 4th pick, he didn't have his team sit down on the job. He tried to get 2 former starting QB's to fill in.

CouchCoach said:

Ok, let's do that. Who is going to explain to the season ticket holders that pay the highest price in the league that they're purposefully tanking the season? But they will receive no partial refund.

Have you ever seen anything in Booger's makeup that would lead him to do that? He's not going to win the fight but he will go down swinging. That's how they convinced him to fire Phillips, the team had quit and that is unacceptable to him.

And let's play that out. Prescott goes on and is a pretty good QB on a better team and makes the playoffs and that QB that won't cost 30M is the new Ryan Leaf. The bird in the hand flew and the bush burned.

The one question they should be asking isn't whether he's elite or not. It is can he lead the team to a SB and I have yet to see that can't happen as he wasn't the reason they lost those playoff games.

The last thing any fan ever worries about when their team wins a SB is how much is the QB being paid.

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i never said he would, only that he should. What is more likely is we pay dak stupid money and we miss the playoffs the next 4 years under MM before he gets fired.

csirl said:

If he isnt tagged, then he's no longer a Cowboy
A player with no team who choses not to play = retired.

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As soon as he says he’s not signing the tag a deal will get done
If he refuses to sign a tag he would be no different than others who have
Jerry is not losing Dak and may tag while negotiating but by camp if it’s not done then Dak very well could refuse to sign
Not being tagged doesn’t make him retired, it makes him a free agent

ABQCOWBOY said:

I don't think Cooper Rush is the starter. Hell, I don't even think Cooper Rush is on the team next year. He'll cost a million or so if we keep him.

But there are several Vet QBs that will likely be available out there and there are several QBs in the draft that can be taken and groomed. I think it's possible to sign a QB and truth be told, if Dak sits out, then no cap is spent on Dak so plenty of money would be available to sign a viable QB in FA.

JMO

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The trick to this is timing. If they're going to tag him, they've got to do it first day and take a read on what his agent will be advising. They would need to know whether to go for one of the vets or draft one and then have to balance that against him coming in.

If they tag him at 27.5M, they're pretty hamstrung on bringing in a Brady or a Rivers for 25-30M, they have to go with a rookie and good luck at 17. The top 3 QB's and that 3rd one is a stretch will be gone by the 6th pick.

If they decide to tag him, there is no way he holds out. A new offense is being installed and they're not going to teach that to him in season. He would be forfeiting $1,718,750 a game. Does anyone here think any player would do that? How many actually carry though a hold out for the season? Bell was the last to do that and that was a total fail and everyone in the league knows it.

If Prescott were to hold out a day, that would be the time to dump him as he's not the QB for this team. That's why it's not getting there. He will be signed and there will be a lot of pissed off posters here. I can't say I will be happy but I do understand the situation they're in and it's not like they didn't try to avoid this last season.

The amount of leverage an agent can apply is directly proportionate to the lack of options and the Cowboys have few unless they act quickly. If they can't get a deal, go for Rivers or maybe even Brady, and try to position in the draft for maybe Eason.

charron said:

i never said he would, only that he should. What is more likely is we pay dak stupid money and we miss the playoffs the next 4 years under MM before he gets fired.

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If they're going to pay him stupid money this would be a good year to do it.

It’s moot. He won’t get to the tag. This deal will be done before that. Like it or not.

CATCH17 said:

I just feel like the answer to all of this is let Dak hit the open market and find his true value.

I don't see any need in competing against ourselves.

If he leaves fine.

We'll use that money to build our roster closer to the 9ers or Titans.

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Here's the problems with that idea. First the rest of the NFL knows what Prescott has turned down so they will know that ant team that really wants Prescott will have to bid more than that, not less. Now if Prescott walks and the Cowboys have the 17th pick in the draft just which QB will be there that is going to be better right off the bat than Prescott? Oh wait you're going to say trade up to get one of the top QB's using more valuable picks need to help replace some of the 25 UFA that don't get resigned. All this even after Jerry, Stephen and now McCarthy has said that Prescott is their future QB. The only ones that would be happy with your idea are the ones that want Prescott out of Dallas which is the complete opposite of what the Cowboys want.
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