A Cowboy fan’s dream

Bobhaze said:

It’s ok for a fan to dream...right?

So what if in the coming offseason and all through the draft, training camp, preseason and the entire 2020 regular season and playoffs, the Jones boys just stopped talking in public? They still show up for work every day and stay engaged, sign the checks, etc., but from an appropriate distance (like all the teams that have won the last 24 Super Bowls) and with no TV or radio appearances.

We would all love it if the only talking heads for the next 12 months were Mike McCarthy and maybe Will McClay. What a refreshing change that would be! Think of all the garbage we would no longer have to put up with on a regular basis:

• No more Jerry in his pretend coaching gear at training camp literally talking absolute nonsense for a solid hour while every reporter in sight tries hard to pretend he’s not crazy.
• No more Stephen or Jerry radio shows (yes plural) where they tell us almost nothing of real value and consistently undermine their head coach.
• No more post game drivel from the only GM in the league who thinks it’s appropriate to hold a press conference to talk about the game before checking in with his head coach. There’s a reason the good GMs don’t do that- It’s stupid.
• No more impromptu press conferences from Jerry at the draft or TC. In fact, how about Jerry isn’t even at training camp? What a concept.
• No more Jerry breaking the “Guinness Book of World Records” on how many times someone can say “Uh” in a press conference! LOL! Because he follows a gag order!

Yes, I know most responses to this will be “that will never happen”, or “he’s the owner- he can do whatever he wants.” Yada, yada.

Well I’m a long suffering fan still dreaming of the day my favorite team since 1964 will once again hoist a Lombardi. If that dream isn’t crazy, then maybe dreaming of a day when the Jones boys realize they are the biggest problem this team has isn’t so crazy either.

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Kwyn said:

I hear you and sympathize with some of your frustrations about Jerry the GM.

i too have my concerns about the job he’s done as GM. There have been many decisions that I disagree with.

But, as an owner, the man is incredible. One of the greatest to ever be part of the NFL. A true innovator when it comes to revenue generation and building franchise value. He was the prime mover of the NFL going to Fox which vaulted the league’s status to the richest in sport. His ad marketing strategies set the blueprint for other owners and the league. He, more than anyone, has shown his fellow owners how to make money and elevate the NFL to the level of media, cultural and financial domination that we see today.

What he has done as an owner is going to be legendary when the book is closed. He could likely go down a the greatest owner in NFL history

When it comes to his actions with the Cowboys as owner of the team, that’s also pretty incredible don’t you think? What do we ask of owners? Number one is spend money. Spend lots of it. Jerry has never shirked from sinking hundreds of millions into the team. The stadium, the Star, training camp. No expense is too high and quality is always excellent. Only the absolute best will do for our players, coaches and football people.

The one area where his owner responsibilities could be questioned would be head coaching decisions. That line is really blurred here as to whether that’s on the GM or Owner side of things. Typically coaching hires and fires are done by the GM but with the owners buy-in and approval.

Personally, I never had a problem with the firing of Landry. It had to happen. I also felt that the Jimmy/Jerry split had plenty of blame for both of them. Letting Garrett hang around as long as he did was a mistake so if that’s an owner failing, then I’m ok with that.

Anyway, knock him for his work as a GM. Much of that criticism is well deserved. But, if you are able to separate your feelings about the two roles, I think you might see things a bit differently about the ownership side of things

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birdwells1 said:

AT&T stadium and the the Star does nothing in adding W's they just line Jerry's pockets. Everything you stated about what Jerry has done as an owner has done nothing for Cowboys fans because we'd take the old stadium and the old practice facilities if it meant more super bowls.

Jerry's undermining the tradition power structure of a football team, by insisting on being the face of this team, has done more harm than most of you think. Hopefully with Mike being here all that will change.

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Kwyn said:

I was pretty clear about separating the two. OP had also made comments that Jerry was lacking as a GM /*and* an owner.

people too often conflate one with the other. Jerry can be lacking as a GM but still be amazing as an owner

and if you think that an owner, in any sport, has no impact on W’s you haven’t been paying attention

I get the Jerry hate but hating on him as an owner for things he does as a GM isn’t fair. We have a complicated system here, no doubt about it, but give the man his due as an owner. He’s earned it.

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Kwyn said:

I hear you and sympathize with some of your frustrations about Jerry the GM.

i too have my concerns about the job he’s done as GM. There have been many decisions that I disagree with.

But, as an owner, the man is incredible. One of the greatest to ever be part of the NFL. A true innovator when it comes to revenue generation and building franchise value. He was the prime mover of the NFL going to Fox which vaulted the league’s status to the richest in sport. His ad marketing strategies set the blueprint for other owners and the league. He, more than anyone, has shown his fellow owners how to make money and elevate the NFL to the level of media, cultural and financial domination that we see today.

What he has done as an owner is going to be legendary when the book is closed. He could likely go down a the greatest owner in NFL history

When it comes to his actions with the Cowboys as owner of the team, that’s also pretty incredible don’t you think? What do we ask of owners? Number one is spend money. Spend lots of it. Jerry has never shirked from sinking hundreds of millions into the team. The stadium, the Star, training camp. No expense is too high and quality is always excellent. Only the absolute best will do for our players, coaches and football people.

The one area where his owner responsibilities could be questioned would be head coaching decisions. That line is really blurred here as to whether that’s on the GM or Owner side of things. Typically coaching hires and fires are done by the GM but with the owners buy-in and approval.

Personally, I never had a problem with the firing of Landry. It had to happen. I also felt that the Jimmy/Jerry split had plenty of blame for both of them. Letting Garrett hang around as long as he did was a mistake so if that’s an owner failing, then I’m ok with that.

Anyway, knock him for his work as a GM. Much of that criticism is well deserved. But, if you are able to separate your feelings about the two roles, I think you might see things a bit differently about the ownership side of things

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birdwells1 said:

You cant separate the two, for instance when Jerry the owner is trying to get a boxing match, concert, WWE, monster truck event at the stadium, where is Jerry the gm?

One affects the other, when Jerry the owner developes a soft spot for a player or coach (like owners do) and want to hold on to him too long , how does Jerry the gm feel different?

The problem is that Jerry the owner has been disguised as Jerry the gm for all these years and for the most part it's worked. Worked to convince people that he can do both jobs and that the owner and gm are separate and independent of each other.

Ask yourself this, why has Jerry the owner been reluctant to hire a coach with a demanding presence? It's to make sure that Jerry the gm can be comfortable in doing what he likes to do.

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Diehardblues said:

“ Jerry runs our franchise thru the eyes of a fan “

a quote from one of my favorite members I’ve been following for over 12 years on these forums

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Kwyn said:

You hate the Cowboys ownership. Got it.

Do you long for the good old days of Clint Murchison? Murchison was a weird dude and wouldn’t survive one year as an NFL owner in the Internet age. They would have ran him off. Significant mob ties, gambling on NFL games, running off with G Brandt’s wife. The list goes on.

But, nostalgia is intoxicating

All I can say is thank God for Tex

https://thelandryhat.com/2013/04/11/clint-murchison-craziest-dallas-cowboys-owner-ever/

https://www.dmagazine.com/publicati...he-cowboys-really-belong-in-the-hall-of-fame/

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Jake said:

6 coaching changes
21 starting QBs
1 GM

That's since the Cowboys last NFCCG appearance. That's what people hate.

The refusal to change how the franchise operates no matter how seasons end in failure. Just fire the coach, find another QB, and the stubborn fool who hasn't been able to figure it out in 24 years still making the decisions.

No one cares about Clint Murchison. He's been dead for over 30 years.

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TWOK11 said:

I’m convinced the complete infatuation many have with what Jerry does is a defense mechanism for fans to excuse the lack of success over the last 25 years. 95% of the things he does that annoy people have NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER ON WINNING. And especially now that so much of the personnel decision making is in the hands of McClay and Stephen he has even less of an impact with regards to on field success.

It’s so much easier to say “If Jerry would just shut up we’d win a title” than to take the time to dissect the real reasons for failure.

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thunderpimp91 said:

IDK man Jerry talking about gloryholes was one of the top highlights for this team over the last decade.

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Bobhaze said:

It’s ok for a fan to dream...right?

So what if in the coming offseason and all through the draft, training camp, preseason and the entire 2020 regular season and playoffs, the Jones boys just stopped talking in public? They still show up for work every day and stay engaged, sign the checks, etc., but from an appropriate distance (like all the teams that have won the last 24 Super Bowls) and with no TV or radio appearances.

We would all love it if the only talking heads for the next 12 months were Mike McCarthy and maybe Will McClay. What a refreshing change that would be! Think of all the garbage we would no longer have to put up with on a regular basis:

• No more Jerry in his pretend coaching gear at training camp literally talking absolute nonsense for a solid hour while every reporter in sight tries hard to pretend he’s not crazy.
• No more Stephen or Jerry radio shows (yes plural) where they tell us almost nothing of real value and consistently undermine their head coach.
• No more post game drivel from the only GM in the league who thinks it’s appropriate to hold a press conference to talk about the game before checking in with his head coach. There’s a reason the good GMs don’t do that- It’s stupid.
• No more impromptu press conferences from Jerry at the draft or TC. In fact, how about Jerry isn’t even at training camp? What a concept.
• No more Jerry breaking the “Guinness Book of World Records” on how many times someone can say “Uh” in a press conference! LOL! Because he follows a gag order!

Yes, I know most responses to this will be “that will never happen”, or “he’s the owner- he can do whatever he wants.” Yada, yada.

Well I’m a long suffering fan still dreaming of the day my favorite team since 1964 will once again hoist a Lombardi. If that dream isn’t crazy, then maybe dreaming of a day when the Jones boys realize they are the biggest problem this team has isn’t so crazy either.

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Kwyn said:

I hear you and sympathize with some of your frustrations about Jerry the GM.

i too have my concerns about the job he’s done as GM. There have been many decisions that I disagree with.

But, as an owner, the man is incredible. One of the greatest to ever be part of the NFL. A true innovator when it comes to revenue generation and building franchise value. He was the prime mover of the NFL going to Fox which vaulted the league’s status to the richest in sport. His ad marketing strategies set the blueprint for other owners and the league. He, more than anyone, has shown his fellow owners how to make money and elevate the NFL to the level of media, cultural and financial domination that we see today.

What he has done as an owner is going to be legendary when the book is closed. He could likely go down a the greatest owner in NFL history

When it comes to his actions with the Cowboys as owner of the team, that’s also pretty incredible don’t you think? What do we ask of owners? Number one is spend money. Spend lots of it. Jerry has never shirked from sinking hundreds of millions into the team. The stadium, the Star, training camp. No expense is too high and quality is always excellent. Only the absolute best will do for our players, coaches and football people.

The one area where his owner responsibilities could be questioned would be head coaching decisions. That line is really blurred here as to whether that’s on the GM or Owner side of things. Typically coaching hires and fires are done by the GM but with the owners buy-in and approval.

Personally, I never had a problem with the firing of Landry. It had to happen. I also felt that the Jimmy/Jerry split had plenty of blame for both of them. Letting Garrett hang around as long as he did was a mistake so if that’s an owner failing, then I’m ok with that.

Anyway, knock him for his work as a GM. Much of that criticism is well deserved. But, if you are able to separate your feelings about the two roles, I think you might see things a bit differently about the ownership side of things

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Bobhaze said:

It’s ok for a fan to dream...right?

So what if in the coming offseason and all through the draft, training camp, preseason and the entire 2020 regular season and playoffs, the Jones boys just stopped talking in public? They still show up for work every day and stay engaged, sign the checks, etc., but from an appropriate distance (like all the teams that have won the last 24 Super Bowls) and with no TV or radio appearances.

We would all love it if the only talking heads for the next 12 months were Mike McCarthy and maybe Will McClay. What a refreshing change that would be! Think of all the garbage we would no longer have to put up with on a regular basis:

• No more Jerry in his pretend coaching gear at training camp literally talking absolute nonsense for a solid hour while every reporter in sight tries hard to pretend he’s not crazy.
• No more Stephen or Jerry radio shows (yes plural) where they tell us almost nothing of real value and consistently undermine their head coach.
• No more post game drivel from the only GM in the league who thinks it’s appropriate to hold a press conference to talk about the game before checking in with his head coach. There’s a reason the good GMs don’t do that- It’s stupid.
• No more impromptu press conferences from Jerry at the draft or TC. In fact, how about Jerry isn’t even at training camp? What a concept.
• No more Jerry breaking the “Guinness Book of World Records” on how many times someone can say “Uh” in a press conference! LOL! Because he follows a gag order!

Yes, I know most responses to this will be “that will never happen”, or “he’s the owner- he can do whatever he wants.” Yada, yada.

Well I’m a long suffering fan still dreaming of the day my favorite team since 1964 will once again hoist a Lombardi. If that dream isn’t crazy, then maybe dreaming of a day when the Jones boys realize they are the biggest problem this team has isn’t so crazy either.

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