Eli Manning to retire

Glad I got this Giants related news.

Career record of 117-117 he would've been the perfect QB for Garrett

Really going to miss Ellie , it was great betting against him always could count on interception , fumble to a lose a game for me

Pretty funny that this scrub has to retire despite being completely healthy because no teams want him as their starter.


Brady, Brees, Big Ben and Rivers still going.

Eli? Nah. Kick rocks.

rocyaice said:

Ehh.....I guess he’s become cool in old age but seems to be a lot different than from his Tennessee days.

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Age/wisdom/winding down changes people.

OmerV said:

No, I don't think Swann could make that claim, but even so, the HOF is for accomplishments over a career, not over a couple of years.

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Says who you? The HOF is about whatever they want it to be. There is no criteria. They can put anybody in.
And it was a rhetorical question. Swann was obviously considered the best receiver in the league for several seasons in the 70s. You must be 12.

OmerV said:

I'm not an Eli fan by any stretch (in fact, he has always annoyed me), but it's nonsense to suggest he doesn't have the credentials to be a serious candidate for the HOF. The guy has 2 Super Bowl wins and is 7th all time both in passing yards and in TD's.

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Despite accumulating numbers, including interceptions, he was never considered a top 10 QB at any point in his career.

His 2 wins over Brady will be the only reason he will be getting in.

OmerV said:

I'm not an Eli fan by any stretch (in fact, he has always annoyed me), but it's nonsense to suggest he doesn't have the credentials to be a serious candidate for the HOF. The guy has 2 Super Bowl wins and is 7th all time both in passing yards and in TD's.

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at least with a Eli he has two major accolades by being a two-time super bowl MVP

Rivers and big Ben have a combined zero of the four major accolades (Superbowl MVP, all pro team, league MVP, and all decade team) and they'll both eventually make Hall of Fame. 85% of their combined accolades are pro bowl back up............. (Lol)

aria said:

Well unlike Romo, Eli showed up in big games and he did beat Brady twice. If Plaxico didn’t shoot himself then I wouldn’t doubt if they would have won a third SB. IIRC, they were kicking butt that season until he did that and then everything went downhill.

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Well with defenses he had they didn't ask him to do much did they?

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Good for him. Made huge money and has 2 rings. Nice career if you ask most.

Corso said:

The Manning brothers are actually really nice and cool people.
Funny too.

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If hosting SNL is any indicator, Peyton's funny. Eli, not so much.

Direwolf63 said:

Despite accumulating numbers, including interceptions, he was never considered a top 10 QB at any point in his career.

His 2 wins over Brady will be the only reason he will be getting in.

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Remember him pretty much insisting he was "elite".......Yeah, it was just him.

Super_Kazuya said:

Couldn’t Swann at least make the claim he was the best receiver in the league for a couple of years there? I’m trying to remember if Eli ever got a single regular season MVP vote.

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Better than Largent, Pearson? He barely was the best receiver on his team.

Yep 252 million is pretty kool. 2 rings.

OmerV said:

I'm not an Eli fan by any stretch (in fact, he has always annoyed me), but it's nonsense to suggest he doesn't have the credentials to be a serious candidate for the HOF. The guy has 2 Super Bowl wins and is 7th all time both in passing yards and in TD's.

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Be average/mediocre long enough and you suddenly become "great."

2015 called. It wants its headline back.

Super_Kazuya said:

Says who you? The HOF is about whatever they want it to be. There is no criteria. They can put anybody in.
And it was a rhetorical question. Swann was obviously considered the best receiver in the league for several seasons in the 70s. You must be 12.

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lol - well, you went into full ******* mode - and without knowing nearly as much as you think. Swann wasn't even the best receiver on his team most of the time, much less being good enough to claim to be the best in the NFL for several seasons. He only had one all pro season, and never had a 1,000 yard season. His best season was 1978, and he was 7th in receiving in the NFL.

The thing that boosted the way he was perceived was the Super Bowl wins and the big games he had against Dallas in the Super Bowl. That's not the same as him being the best of his era. He was among the better receivers for a few years, but for his era Largent and Joiner were clearly better, and Pearson, Charmichael and Branch were easily as good or better. Even guys like Nat Moore, Sammy White and Ahmad Rashad can easily be argued as easily comparable.

As for the HOF Fame honoring careers and not just a few outstanding seasons, other than players that had injuries that shortened their careers, name anyone in the HOF that only had a few outstanding years without much of a career otherwise. Swan himself was borderline, which is why he had to wait 15 years after he became eligible to get in.

Froski said:

Well with defenses he had they didn't ask him to do much did they?

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He had a 132 QBR against Romo in the 2007 playoffs when the Cowboys went 13-3 and Romo went to Cabo to prepare for the Giants. He also made 4 pro bowls, 2 time Super Bowl MVP and had a QBR of 129, 114, 82 and 103 against the Patriots in the Super Bowl. I’d say that’s doing quite a bit.

In 2007, when they won a Super Bowl, the Giants defense and Cowboys were very close statistically as were the Patriots so I wouldn’t be so quick to say the defenses were that different. In 2011, the Giants allowed the 6th most yards and 8th most amount of points.