News: LVE update, Prognosis is good

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I agree. It's always a good prognosis until he starts hitting again. Despite the rosy comments to the public, there are some private concerns about the long-term prognosis.
I guarantee you Jaylon is doing a happy dance at this news.

He and Wolf Hunter are tied together like Dak and Zeke.

None are as good without the other to play their best. And when one is injured, it reflects in the other.
 

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When you’re dealing with a neck you can’t say for certain how it’s going to go with a player. I don’t think LVE is going to have a very long career. At some point his neck is going to retire him. Quality of life comes in the play and you just can’t risk it. Anything involving the head or neck is very serious.
 

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Thanks for posting some positive news Jazz. Not much of that around here amongst all the negativity.
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nope. Since THIS good news. No one said you were required to do anything, optimism is a good thing. May not jive with your snarky persona though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Or not burying my head in the sand when it comes to issues.
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Prognosis is good, we ll see when hes hitting again im sure he ll be fine.

a better pick than most cared to admit at the time.


Good player to have. Only getting better.
 

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https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/updates-january-2020

Prognosis is good for LVE to have a full recovery and be ready for everything.

Also the FO is at the Senior Bowl, and a blurb about Witten, has not made a decision yet to retire or not.
We have no linebackers (2 one legged Linebackers in Lee an Smith and another with no spine). So had to touch him Jerry pronounced him healed.

They better draft some healthy linebackers for George Edwards and McCurley to coach. Is it not hilarious (in a Jerry Dumbo GM Jones way) that the 2 healthy linebackers drafted by Cowboys over the last 5 years are in the Super Bowl playing for the Chiefs along with Mo Claiborne.
 

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Repeated concussions retired Luke Kuechly at 28. You just knew he wasn’t going to have a long career. I’ll be surprised if LVE is still playing at 29-30. I don’t see how his neck is going to hold up with the position he plays. Nothing retires players quicker than head and neck injuries.
 

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I'll remain cautiously optimistic and simply hope for the best for LVE. I think he'll be smart enough to know if and when it's time to quit. In the meantime, we should have a LB who's capable of performing with the best of them. Hopefully, that'll serve him well for a long while yet to come.
 

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What do they have to gain by lying about this?
I don’t know that they are lying but I do know they have downplayed so many injuries, including LVE’s “stinger” that I don’t trust anything they say about injuries. If you choose to continue believing them then feel free.
 

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Where are our doctors?

Have they quit commenting on medical issues?
 

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I don’t know that they are lying but I do know they have downplayed so many injuries, including LVE’s “stinger” that I don’t trust anything they say about injuries. If you choose to continue believing them then feel free.
During the season they obviously were hoping to get him back without having to end his season, so as long as the doctors said there was hope of that, why wouldn't they hold out hope? I don't think this is really different than happens with other teams.
 

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During the season they obviously were hoping to get him back without having to end his season, so as long as the doctors said there was hope of that, why wouldn't they hold out hope? I don't think this is really different than happens with other teams.
Whatever the reason, they seem to be “off” on too many injury updates to continue giving them any merit.
 

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Whatever the reason, they seem to be “off” on too many injury updates to continue giving them any merit.
You know healing time on injuries can vary, especially with more complicated ones like LVE where it takes time to know how much can heal without the necessity of surgery. Again, I think that's common across the NFL.

Aside from that, during the season you want to force teams to game plan as if the best players are playing, so a little minor deception is common among NFL teams

As for the news today, all it said was the surgery was successful and the prognosis is good. Since a "prognosis" is not the same as "a certaintly", what would they be fudging?
 

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You know healing time on injuries can vary, especially with more complicated ones like LVE where it takes time to know how much can heal without the necessity of surgery. Again, I think that's common across the NFL.

Aside from that, during the season you want to force teams to game plan as if the best players are playing, so a little minor deception is common among NFL teams

As for the news today, all it said was the surgery was successful and the prognosis is good. Since a "prognosis" is not the same as "a certaintly", what would they be fudging?
I don't trust anything the team says on injuries. Not sure what the problem is.
 

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lol - look at post #35 in this thread where you said "Even if it was successful, it simply means the surgery was successful. It doesn’t DRAMATICALLY improve anything".

But hey, you wrote that a whole 32 minute ago. How could I expect you to recall something so distant in the past? lol

You like to say things with no evidence or logic - as if you just saying something makes it so. and then you claim you "own" me - again, as if you just saying it without any supporting content just make is so.

I'll show you how logic works

FACT: Before surgery LVE was not physically able to play
FACT: After successful surgery LVE is physically able to play
CONCLUSION: The successful surgery had a hell of a lot to do with his ability to play the game.

Why don't you try it now?

Yes, I that wrote INTENTIONAlLY AFTER YOU USED THE WORD DRAMATICALLY you know whe your VERY FIRST RESPONSE to my post about what a successful surgery means nothing about playing against was:

That's a pretty goofy comment. Obviouisly a successful surgery provides a DRAMATICALLY better chance of LVE playing again at a high level than an unsuccessful surgery would.

Not only did you exaggerate successfully surgery with DRAMATICALLY you exaggerated it with adjectives like HIGH LEVEL.

Like I said, take the L.. because you completely lost this argument. It’s not even close and the more you try and argue, the more you reveal how ridiculously desperate you are in trying to one-up me in a conversation.

Surgical outcomes being successful simply means the surgery was successful according to the outcomes they expected. It has no impact on whether or not he will be able to play again. Multiple players have had cervical fusion and while they were on their respective rosters that year, they couldn’t play in heavy practice and games and retired within a year. Guys like Chad Hennings and Irvin are cases in point and the track record is the same, over and over again. Even Manning couldn’t last in his position and his arm strength effectively became a joke and he isn’t a LB with stenosis and a neck issue that has plagued him throughout his life and career. LVE is not a guy who developer the issue over long years, his stenosis contributed to it and that stenosis is never going to change and another procedure would effectively put the guy at risk of paralysis.
 
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Yes, I that wrote INTENTIONAlLY AFTER YOU USED THE WORD DRAMATICALLY you know whe your VERY FIRST RESPONSE to my post about what a successful surgery means nothing about playing against was:



Not only did you exaggerate successfully surgery with DRAMATICALLY you exaggerated it with adjectives like HIGH LEVEL.

Like I said, take the L.. because you completely lost this argument. It’s not even close and the more you try and argue, the more you reveal how ridiculously desperate you are in trying to one-up me in a conversation.

Surgical outcomes being successful simply means the surgery was successful according to the outcomes they expected. It has no impact on whether or not he will be able to play again. Multiple players have had cervical fusion and while they were on their respective rosters that year, they couldn’t play in heavy practice and games and retired within a year. Guys like Chad Hennings and Irvin are cases in point and the track record is the same, over and over again. Even Manning couldn’t last in his position and his arm strength effectively became a joke and he isn’t a LB with stenosis and a neck issue that has plagued him throughout his life and career. LVE is not a guy who developer the issue over long years, his stenosis contributed to it and that stenosis is never going to change and another procedure would effectively put the guy at risk of paralysis.
lol - so now you are again saying DRAMATICALLY was my word and not yours, despite the fact I proved otherwise.

Remember? You asked me to show where you used the word DRAMATICALLY first, and I did, citing the specific post, and posting the specific words.

You are either very forgetful or very deceitful and taking the position yet again that all you need is to say something for it to be so, truth and logic be damned.

And, again, you are being ridiculous. A successful surgery means he plays again, and an unsuccessful surgery would have meant he wouldn't play again, yet here you are saying a successful surgery has no impact on whether he will play again.

That's like saying successfully performing CPR on a patient who's heart stops has no impact on the patient being able to live. The success of the procedure actually does matter.
 

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And all the fuss is about Stephen Jones saying the surgery went well, which was expected anyways. It’s a surgery..
 
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