What analytics say about McCarthy in areas Rodgers didn't influence

Doomsday101

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The 2019 Dallas Cowboys were certainly a volatile, emotional experience. Despite the sensational high points like Dak Prescott’s early-to-mid-season MVP campaign, inconsistency down the stretch stirred tension and anxiety. Even with Dallas holding the division lead in the final month of the season, speculation grew as to whether Jason Garrett would return as head coach in 2020. The news broke later than some anticipated, but nevertheless, for the first time in a decade, Garrett will not be on the sideline for the Cowboys. Instead, Mike McCarthy will be stepping in to fill the void after a year-long hiatus from the NFL.

In his last stint as head coach, McCarthy’s reputation came under heavy scrutiny when reports surfaced depicting a toxic relationship with Aaron Rodgers, and a prodigious amount of dysfunction within the locker room. However, it’s difficult to fully discern the truth of such a situation to know how much blame should be allocated to McCarthy. He’s likely not fully innocent, but it’s doubtful he’s the only guilty party either.

Even with the unhappy ending in Green Bay, McCarthy did manage to stay at the helm for nearly 13 seasons and exit with what is now the third-best active winning percentage among NFL coaches (.618). In that time, he helped develop Aaron Rodgers into a two-time MVP, made the playoffs nine times, and won a Super Bowl in 2010. Unluckily, three of those playoff runs ended in the NFC Championship game (including the infamous botched onside kick recovery by Brandon Bostick). On paper, that’s a pretty solid resume.

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I'm sorry, big Mike deserves a pass seeing as though he had a very productive 13 years. Sure the last couple the train came off the tracks, bit that says something about a coach when he is allowed to stick around that long.

There are many factors in which saw the destruction of the Packers final couple of seasons with big Mike.
 

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I'm sorry, big Mike deserves a pass seeing as though he had a very productive 13 years. Sure the last couple the train came off the tracks, bit that says something about a coach when he is allowed to stick around that long.

There are many factors in which saw the destruction of the Packers final couple of seasons with big Mike.

We'll know pretty quick.

McCarthy doesn't need very long to process. Dallas should hit the ground running next year.
 

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Well, if you talk to Greg Jennings, he says McCarthy’s inability to adapt goes back to when he was there. He didn’t use the talent to attack the defenses, meaning he doesn’t consider him in the likes of a coach like Andy Reid, who GJ considers a genius. While GJ thinks Reid is on another level, he basically said that McCarthy isn’t in that mold. So this idea that it was Rodgers is disputable even by GB players themselves.

GJ though says that McCarthy will be good for the Cowboys, because of the change. He also said that the year off may have been good for him from the former aspect.
 

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Well, if you talk to Greg Jennings, he says McCarthy’s inability to adapt goes back to when he was there. He didn’t use the talent to attack the defenses, meaning he doesn’t consider him in the likes of a coach like Andy Reid, who GJ considers a genius. While GJ thinks Reid is on another level, he basically said that McCarthy isn’t in that mold. So this idea that it was Rodgers is disputable even by GB players themselves.

GJ though says that McCarthy will be good for the Cowboys, because of the change. He also said that the year off may have been good for him from the former aspect.
meh dont always believe ex players on either side of the argument..we will never know the truth...

Reid somehow gets pass for no SBS and been 15 years since hes been to one.. what an FN genius he is.. Mahomes is the genius find a good HC matched with an Elite MVP superstar at QB and you have what Brady and Belecheck had..where has Reid been all this time? waiting on a mahomes type thats where and even then last year they lost to NE..

I believe Reid and MM are very much similar in both careers and the ay they run a team.. good or bad we have MM and hopefully its and improvement over JG..we need more improvement from ST and defense more then offense IMO so maybe Its more about how Reid handles those phases mote then offense..
 

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I can't imagine a QB harder to work with than Rodgers. I'm even including Winston.

I'd put most of the dysfunction on Aaron.

I think MM lost a step when he relinquished play calling as well. His quote was something regarding the coach who installs the offense during the week needs to be the coach who calls the plays. MM also admitted to worrying too much about staff development instead of the here and now. My biggest appreciation for him so far is his ability to accept responsibility and adapt, at least that's his narrative. Its a refreshing change from Garrett and his tendency to blame everyone but himself first. Its nice to expect a coach to make adjustments instead of Garrett's next man up, out execute the opponent BS. Im thrilled to be past Garrett's arrogance.
 

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We'll know pretty quick.

McCarthy doesn't need very long to process. Dallas should hit the ground running next year.

I agree with you here, McCarthy does seem like a guy that is going to move swiftly and apply himself in the right way.. Opps, I just sounded like Garrett just then when I said "the right way".. HAHAHA, sorry about that..

Anyway, yes, I'm so very happy, actually elated that Garrett is gone. Not to sound crass but Garrett was a total fraud as a head NFL football coach and the players could see right through him. No respect was given to him as a coach and that was on display when the players gave up after they were exposed after the Bills game. I honestly thought after the Saints game is when the wheels came off, but that is for another day..
 

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meh dont always believe ex players on either side of the argument..we will never know the truth...

Reid somehow gets pass for no SBS and been 15 years since hes been to one.. what an FN genius he is.. Mahomes is the genius find a good HC matched with an Elite MVP superstar at QB and you have what Brady and Belecheck had..where has Reid been all this time? waiting on a mahomes type thats where and even then last year they lost to NE..

I believe Reid and MM are very much similar in both careers and the ay they run a team.. good or bad we have MM and hopefully its and improvement over JG..we need more improvement from ST and defense more then offense IMO so maybe Its more about how Reid handles those phases mote then offense..

Reid has always been an elite coach offensively. Him and McCarthy are nothing alike.

And it’s not hard to improve over Garrett... so I’m not necessarily down on McCarthy. I’m just not excited and not spinning this like he’s some guru.
 

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Reid has always been an elite coach offensively. Him and McCarthy are nothing alike.

And it’s not hard to improve over Garrett... so I’m not necessarily down on McCarthy. I’m just not excited and not spinning this like he’s some guru.
I disagree...

Elite, NO!

you have to win dude has been 15years since his last SB appearance..if he were elite hed have a Sb or two MM has a Sb their records over the same period are dang near exaxt with MM having the DSB win..so I put them on the same level..you are giving Reid credit because of this Mahomes revival when it took a Mahomes to get Reid back there, its not like he took a Foles or Dilfer and won one.. if you depend on eliet talent to get to and win one that are you Elite?

Garett went 10 years without a SB appearance Reids TAKEN 15yrs to get back to one..somehow hes an elite genius..hes a very good coach, hes great hes not elite,..

Elite is BB..not many can go there..
 

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I disagree...

Elite, NO!

you have to win dude has been 15years since his last SB appearance..if he were elite hed have a Sb or two MM has a Sb their records over the same period are dang near exaxt with MM having the DSB win..so I put them on the same level..you are giving Reid credit because of this Mahomes revival when it took a Mahomes to get Reid back there, its not like he took a Foles or Dilfer and won one.. if you depend on eliet talent to get to and win one that are you Elite?

Garett went 10 years without a SB appearance Reids TAKEN 15yrs to get back to one..somehow hes an elite genius..hes a very good coach, hes great hes not elite,..

Elite is BB..not many can go there..

I wanted Reid here as soon as he was let go in Philly.
 

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I remember those teams for Rodgers and those receivers they had.

However gimme a decent rb McCarthy had in his years there. He has Aaron Jones as a rookie...before that the packers drafted Eddie Lacey who was prob one of the worst draft picks ever.

also the packers didn’t have much of a defense the majority of the time.

you add that up and I think it’s impressive he still made playoffs 9 of 13 years.
 

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Elite, NO!

you have to win dude has been 15years since his last SB appearance..if he were elite hed have a Sb or two MM has a Sb their records over the same period are dang near exaxt with MM having the DSB win..so I put them on the same level..you are giving Reid credit because of this Mahomes revival when it took a Mahomes to get Reid back there, its not like he took a Foles or Dilfer and won one.. if you depend on eliet talent to get to and win one that are you Elite?

Garett went 10 years without a SB appearance Reids TAKEN 15yrs to get back to one..somehow hes an elite genius..hes a very good coach, hes great hes not elite,..

Elite is BB..not many can go there..
You are so correct. It’s not like he took Nick Foles to a Super Bowl. People don’t realize how bad Nick Foles really was. To go to win a Super Bowl with him was remarkable to say the least. Andy Reid LOL
 

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Let’s see what MM can do. He had a good QB for a lot of years but also one that when the chips were down he blamed not just himself. The owner and GM knew it was gonna be get rid of your franchise QB or the HC. I would like to know what exactly happen there but if there was a problem on the locker room then rogers is the leader in there. He was likely going off script and calling or changing the plays as a vet QB will do. Romo used to do it. If we keep our Offense that could move the ball and improve the Defense then we will be better. And our ST being improved will for sure help a lot. I think our ST cost us a few games last year.
 
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