Who is the best option at QB?

Hawkeye0202

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Those names are either retiring in the next year or two, a retread failed starter, or career backup types.

The point of the QB market is that young talented QBs rarely become available. The most recent was Garoppolo but before that you had who? Brees over a decade ago? McCarron and Bradford oh my.

Given that context it should be no question that Dak Prescott would get top dollar on the open market.

:clap::clap::clap:Finally, someone gets it. Fans are overlooking how important every team/coach is looking for STABILITY at the position. Many just want Dak replaced, risk or set back be damn. Nevermind these players are available for a reason.
 

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Dak Prescott

Drew Bress

Tom Brady

Jamois Winston

Philip Rivers

Marcus Mariota

Ryan Tannahill

Teddy Bridewater

Case Keenam

Cooper Rush

Or add a name you think is possible.

Interested who is in your thoughts at this point.

All the above with the exception of Dak and Case and Jamois.....Rush haven't seen yet with the 1st offense so can't judge him at this point.
 

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Dak Prescott

Drew Bress

Tom Brady

Jamois Winston

Philip Rivers

Marcus Mariota

Ryan Tannahill

Teddy Bridewater

Case Keenam

Cooper Rush

Or add a name you think is possible.

Interested who is in your thoughts at this point.
Are we talking overall better or similar skills at a cheaper price?

Drew brees would make us strong super bowl contenders with an offense that looks alive on a weekly basis. I'd rather have him over Brady, but would take either at any price.

Mariota would be my next choice, followed by Keenan/Tannehill. If we do manage to grab any of these guys I still draft a QB just for development and insurance. I wouldn't even entertain bringing back Dak. I feel like part of JG vibes remain with him here. Clean slate, new image, everyone's competing.

If you don't want to be a part of this growing offense I suggest you find a new team. /sarcasm, but not really...
 

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I need to know the salaries of each..

Clearly there are better QB's on that list then Dak and there are QB's who can produce at a similar level.

All of the QBs that are better than Dak on that list are resigning with their current teams.

And by "All of the QBs that are better than Dak on that list", i mean Drew Brees.

That's it. Brady and Rivers are beyond washed, Rivers is probably retiring.

Tannehill is going to be extended, no way the Titans let him get away. At BEST, Tanney is in the same tier as Dak but that's a lot of IF.

Teddy I like, and I think he performed well as a starter in Drew's absence, but I didn't see Dak-tier performance from him. I'm not taking that chance even if he's 'only' going to cost 18-20m a year.

Really Dak is the only choice here.
 

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Opinion noted.

So what you are saying is..

Dak or bust?

So are you saying sign him longterm or tag for one year and wait?

I'm not quite Dak or bust, but I think there's a lot of people losing their minds over the possibility of overpaying him, when the idea that he has wacky salary demands just seems to be an invention of twitter rumors.

I also think he could easily get a big contract # that everyone here will panic over... but the team could get out from under in a couple years due to all the accounting shenanigans that goes into those deals.

If he really wants unprecedented god-tier money then I'm fine tagging him and drafting his replacement. He's worth more than the crazier critics of him think he's worth, but he's not worth absolute elite, cap-nuking money.
 

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All of the QBs that are better than Dak on that list are resigning with their current teams.

And by "All of the QBs that are better than Dak on that list", i mean Drew Brees.

That's it. Brady and Rivers are beyond washed, Rivers is probably retiring.

Tannehill is going to be extended, no way the Titans let him get away. At BEST, Tanney is in the same tier as Dak but that's a lot of IF.

Teddy I like, and I think he performed well as a starter in Drew's absence, but I didn't see Dak-tier performance from him. I'm not taking that chance even if he's 'only' going to cost 18-20m a year.

Really Dak is the only choice here.

I need to know the prices of these QBs.

If we had Carr or Mariotta it would not be a huge drop from Dak. Even Jameis would do well here as much as I do not like that guy.

Zeke and the Oline are going to allow them to play a Dak Prescott brand of football because Dak is not that good to begin with. He’s just in an optimal environment for a QB.

As far as Brady.. Depends on his price because he’ll do just as good as Dak too.

If Dak was good we easily make the post season because our division was horrible and the Cowboys stayed relatively healthy.
 

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  1. Dak Prescott - Most likely option, realistically.
  2. Drew Bress - Why in the world would he leave NOLA? He's on a stacked offense in place he's idolized, with a better coach and no Jerry. Not gonna happen.
  3. Tom Brady - Theoretically possible! His age is in completely uncharted waters for an NFL QB, but a lot of his issues in 2019 were supporting talent based. I suspect Jerry scares him off though.
  4. Jameis Winston - Moron, criminal, interception machine, suspension magnet. Hell no.
  5. Philip Rivers - By the criteria Cowboys fans use on Dak, Rivers has never done anything but put up empty stats and choke, either.
  6. Marcus Mariota - Lost his job to Ryan Tannehill. Might be a cheap project who needed a change of scenery, but he's objectively worse than Dak and much more fragile.
  7. Ryan Tannehill - Has no reason to leave the Titans. He's a good player on a team that probably wants to keep him.
  8. Teddy Bridgewater - A career dink-dunk mediocrity with a terrifying injury history who keeps getting pumped up around here for some reason. He basically has every fault that Dak haters lose their minds over, only even more.
  9. Case Keenum - Career backup scrub who had one nice run on the Vikings in a sea of absolutely nothing. Just went 1-7 in 2019.
  10. Cooper Rush - Get out.

Good post!
 

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Normally I would take some comfort in your remarks.

But when I think about Dak, more often I picture late throws to WRs..

dropped passes of poorly located passes..

passes thrown in the ground..

3 and outs..

long audibles at the LOS that never result in big plays, just a Zeke handoff that gets stuffed.

So I do not agree. Yes, Dak has his moments. But unlike in 2016..they are farther and father apart.

And one think we all seem to block out watching these games..

the more somebody plays, the more the opposition sees them and figured out how to stop them..

how to get them off their comfort spot.

I think part of Dak's problems is there.

Defenses have got a good book on Dak.

Now the question is..

can Dak immediately adjust and use McCarthy and the WCO to beat teams?

And do we commit the money to him and the rest of the roster to this?
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You basically described it for me. I know theoretically the WCO should be of benefit because it seems to suit QBs.

My question is this: Can we expect Dak's skill set to flourish in an offense reliant on timing & ball placement?
 

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I can’t get any of the other members of your group to answer.

Were you one of them that has changed your argument from (paraphrasing) —he’s not the reason his winning record is so good. His low stats and inability to break 200 yards passing show he’s no good. He’ll never ever get close to 5000 yards passing and to suggest so is laughable etc etc etc...

To—his stats are all from garbage time and the only other reason is he has a great offensive line. The only other other reason is he has a great RB. And so on and so on... Is that you???

If so (and this goes to your girlfriends if it’s not you) do you ever feel embarrassed because your changing argument makes you look so wrong?

?????

(There are permanent records of stupid things some have said)
I have a question. Where did that 5000 yds get the cowboys?

All season I watched Dak on display. Then finally Late in the season I saw Dak injured and I saw the Cowboys rely on the running game to dominate a quality team that was still fighting for a playoff spot.

With only 2 games left to audition for his Big Pay Day, Dak played and attempted to win with his arm. The commitment to running was abandoned and the Cowboys go 8-8 missing the playoffs.

So what many on here have said is true. Dak can be a successful bus driver but if you put the team on his shoulders, he will flounder.

If he would have successfully played the role of bus driver and led us to the playoffs many here would be willing to accept him.

He was giving every opportunity to be successful with the weak NFC east and failed because he wanted to put up empty stats in order to be paid as the top QB in the league.

His only job is to keep the chains moving. Too many drives stalled on inaccurate passes to open WR's
 

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I have a question. Where did that 5000 yds get the cowboys?

All season I watched Dak on display. Then finally Late in the season I saw Dak injured and I saw the Cowboys rely on the running game to dominate a quality team that was still fighting for a playoff spot.

With only 2 games left to audition for his Big Pay Day, Dak played and attempted to win with his arm. The commitment to running was abandoned and the Cowboys go 8-8 missing the playoffs.

So what many on here have said is true. Dak can be a successful bus driver but if you put the team on his shoulders, he will flounder

Come on man. Do you really think he was the problem ? He was the reason we lost? I’d say special teams, Coaching and Defense has more to do with that. And the numbers back it up.

We were 6th in scoring. IMO that’s an important metric for measuring an offense’s success. Would you agree?

Look at his Passer rating, QBR, ints, yards, or whatever metric you want. He produced. And at a very high level.

The point is many had the critique that he was a bus driver. That he couldn’t throw for 200 yards. Etc. He clearly proved that completely wrong. So now it’s turned into. “Well we didn’t win”. Do you see how that thinking is flawed. At best.
 

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Great response you win an 8-8 record having beaten 1 team with a winning record all season long!:clap:
What’s his record for his career?


And don’t compliment me. It makes me wonder if I’m doing something wrong.
 

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Great response you win an 8-8 record having beaten 1 team with a winning record all season long!:clap:
See you’re going back and forth. It’s his production. Then it’s his record. What next year? Can you see how that makes it seem like you’re stupid?


You don’t like him. We get it. If he knew you he wouldn’t like you either.

And @Nav22 wants you to know that you’re thought of as a joke
 

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A deep dive into Prescott’s first 50 starts reveals some staggering results. According to Pro Football Reference, nearly 200 quarterbacks have made at least 50 starts in the modern era of the NFL (post 1950). Prescott’s 26 interceptions are the fewest of any quarterback during their first 50 starts.

Is that number skewed by limited throws? Nope. Prescott also owns the best interception rate (1 per 59.1 passes) in NFL history for a quarterback’s first 50 starts.

Prescott’s 2.8 TD/INT ratio ranks second to Aaron Rodgers (2.9).

Doesn’t throw the ball downfield? Nah. Prescott’s 7.72 adjusted yards per attempt ranks seventh in first 50 history, one spot behind Dan Marino (7.84) and ahead of Ben Roethlisberger (7.67), Peyton Manning (6.88) and a slew of Hall of Famers.


https://www.shreveporttimes.com/sto...historic-numbers-early-his-career/2374370001/
 
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