Byron Jones or Amari Cooper?

KJJ · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
Jim Plunkett says you are majorly wrong.

Jim Plunkett never made the all time Super Bowl throws that Eli did and Jim Plunkett never won a Super Bowl MVP award.

DallasDW00ds0n · Jan 25, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
How about locking down his man the majority of the time? He's not elite, but he is a great man to man corner and you don't just replace those with bargain bin shopping in FA.

Same to be said about Amari, both want elite money and who changes more games?

KJJ · Jan 25, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
Says the guy (or girl) that thinks Eli was Elite

Archie Manning doesnt even believe that

According to the San Diego Union Tribune Eli was super elite. Continuing to shoot you down like ducks in a shooting gallery. Lol

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-eli-manning-super-elite-2012feb05-htmlstory.html

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...st-finally-embrace-eli-manning-as-an-elite-qb

fishspill · Jan 25, 2020

I can’t point to a good reason why but I just don’t trust Cooper. Seems like a guy you’ll regret paying in the long run.

WillieBeamen · Jan 25, 2020

KJJ said:
According to the San Diego Union Tribune Eli was super elite. Continuing to shoot you down like ducks in a shooting gallery. Lol

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-eli-manning-super-elite-2012feb05-htmlstory.html

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...st-finally-embrace-eli-manning-as-an-elite-qb

according to Phil Simms, he wasnt

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...ts-that-giants-qb-eli-manning-isnt-elite/amp/

Number1 · Jan 25, 2020

"Byron Jones or Amari Cooper?"

I'll take Jones

Amari just plain drops too many passes and is not a possession WR like the those pulling top $s

Jones is a prototype RCB

KJJ · Jan 25, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
according to Phil Simms, he wasnt

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...ts-that-giants-qb-eli-manning-isnt-elite/amp/

Like I said to the other poster everyone has an opinion on Eli. You guys can continue to carry-on but I’m done!

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

KJJ said:
Jim Plunkett never made the all time Super Bowl throws that Eli did and Jim Plunkett never won a Super Bowl MVP award.

Ah, changing the parameters, I see. That's what happens when you make a statement that is proven incorrect. Try to save face.

mattjames2010 · Jan 25, 2020

DallasDW00ds0n said:
Same to be said about Amari, both want elite money and who changes more games?

No, it's not the same with Amari. You can win in this league without an inconsistent WR lol

You don't win anything meaningful with scrubs and average DBs.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

KJJ said:
Like I said to the other poster everyone has an opinion on Eli. You guys can continue to carry-on but I’m done!

Thank gawd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WillieBeamen · Jan 25, 2020

KJJ said:
Like I said to the other poster everyone has an opinion on Eli. You guys can continue to carry-on but I’m done!

Done=Wrong

You got that right :muttley:

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
No, it's not the same with Amari. You can win in this league without an inconsistent WR lol

You don't win anything meaningful with scrubs and average DBs.

Giants won a super bowl w/ average CB's. KC's corners are average. Pretty sure Philly's were pretty average also.

Now if you meant to say scrubs and average all over the D, I'd completely agree!!!!

KJJ · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
Ah, changing the parameters, I see. That's what happens when you make a statement that is proven incorrect. Try to save face.

I’m giving you the facts, Jim Plunkett was not in the same category as Eli not even close! Eli was much better during the regular season and postseason check the numbers! A majority of Plunkett’s career was bad in New England. Pluckett never even passed for 3000 yards in a season. Just over 2900 was his career best. He never even threw for more than 20 TD’s.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
Done=Wrong

You got that right

For the life of me I cannot fathom how anyone considers Eli HOF worthy. He's not even close. Rivers was better. Romo was considered better for most of their careers. Not sure that Matt Ryan isn't better. Stafford prolly is.

mattjames2010 · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
Giants won a super bowl w/ average CB's. KC's corners are average. Pretty sure Philly's were pretty average also.

Now if you meant to say scrubs and average all over the D, I'd completely agree!!!!

No, they didn't. They had a pro-bowl safety and a first round corner as well, both of which played at high levels.

DallasDW00ds0n · Jan 25, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
No, it's not the same with Amari. You can win in this league without an inconsistent WR lol

You don't win anything meaningful with scrubs and average DBs.

I hear you, it’s a good point. Just don’t believe Byron deserves elite money because we’re afraid of the alternative. I believe the FO is thinking the same.

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

KJJ said:
I’m giving you the facts, Jim Plunkett was not in the same category as Eli not even close! Eli was much better during the regular season and postseason check the numbers! A majority of Plunkett’s career was bad in New England. Pluckett never even passed for 3000 yards in a season. Just over 2900 with his career best.

No, you declared that Eli being 2-0 in the super bowl was enough to get him in. It is not. And now you're just digging a deeper hole w/ blather.

So, if Flacco's pass to Lee in the end zone doesn't get dropped and Flacco wins 2 super bowls in a row, you'd put Flacco in?

kskboys · Jan 25, 2020

mattjames2010 said:
No, they didn't. They had a pro-bowl safety and a first round safety as well, both of which played at high levels.

CORNERS. I know their S's were good. Their CB's were like off the street.

mattjames2010 · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
CORNERS. I know their S's were good. Their CB's were like off the street.

Actually, I meant corner. They had a first round corner when they won their first Super Bowl.

They also had Corey Webster, who was a good corner that played his entire career with the Giants. He shut down Owens and caused turnovers in the playoffs.

KJJ · Jan 25, 2020

kskboys said:
No, you declared that Eli being 2-0 in the super bowl was enough to get him in. It is not. And now you're just digging a deeper hole w/ blather.

So, if Flacco's pass to Lee in the end zone doesn't get dropped and Flacco wins 2 super bowls in a row, you'd put Flacco in?

I declared more than that you left out some things just to argue. I’ve become bored proving you guys wrong. I have all three of you flopping around like fish. Not wasting anymore time with fans who don’t know anything about football and are just looking for things to argue about.

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