Did you guys know Romo though 09-16 won 15 games?

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It mean everyone that criticizes Dak for not beating winning teams and didn't do the same for Romo are disingenuous.

The next Argument would be about the teams Romo was surrounded by. There were absolutely times in Romos career where he carried the team. I believe a lot of his gun slinger, mistake ridden mentality was him over compensating for poor teams. In the same light there were times Romo had talent around and wasn't able to get over the hump.

With both qbs there were times we had enough talent, but in the end we couldn't make up for the coaching deficit.

What else is interesting with that data is only the top 5 QB's won more than half the time against teams with a winning record. Who would have guessed that? The other item of note is what someone else pointed out which was how he only played half as many games as the top guys did.
 
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Ok I’m not arguing who had the better line even though the offensive line in 2014 is the best offensive line we’ve seen around here in a long time. Once again no debated Romo had some
Bad lines. But the narrative you guys have created is he never had a line and that’s a myth.

2014 had 3 recent 1st round starters (Smith, Fred and Martin) so I'd agree it was a darn good line, although Free was still at RT. But my initial point in the thread was who cares about Romo at this point? We can argue all day about who the better QB is and it won't make a bit of difference.

The real question is do we pay Dak elite QB money? That's a valid debate considering we're sitting at home for the playoffs and went 2 and 4 down the stretch with the NFC East on the line.
 

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2014 had 3 recent 1st round starters (Smith, Fred and Martin) so I'd agree it was a darn good line, although Free was still at RT. But my initial point in the thread was who cares about Romo at this point? We can argue all day about who the better QB is and it won't make a bit of difference.

The real question is do we pay Dak elite QB money? That's a valid debate considering we're sitting at home for the playoffs and went 2 and 4 down the stretch with the NFC East on the line.
Not only did it have 3 first rounders but also had Ronald Leary who was great here. The holes they gave Demarco were surreal.

And your question is irrelevant to what this thread is about. The point is we need a better coached team to win in this league. They need more consistent quarterback play. They need better blocking. You don’t go 8-8 just because of one player is the point of this whole thread. People are too busy defending Romo’s legacy and honor to even see that.
 

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By the looks of the list......seems like maybe Romo wasted some of Garrett's years too.
I ask this because Dak gets the credit for this teams lack of wins against playoff teams this year. But Dak had the same head coach as Garrett......yet....its Dak's fault?

That's a really good argument. I don't think the issue is Dak's fault entirely. I think there is some blame that can be laid at his feet, but then a lot of blame should be on Garrett. How many times when we started to falter this season did this team just seem to be completely unmotivated and out of it. Garrett was a worse motivational speaker than Pinocchio.
 

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That's a really good argument. I don't think the issue is Dak's fault entirely. I think there is some blame that can be laid at his feet, but then a lot of blame should be on Garrett. How many times when we started to falter this season did this team just seem to be completely unmotivated and out of it. Garrett was a worse motivational speaker than Pinocchio.
That and he’d watch his team collapse and just watch. This team never got help from its coach.
 

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Theres been multiple people claiming this. Crayton and Holley come to mind. I think T.O also said it.
Even if all 3 of them came up with the theory on their own, rather than just repeating what they heard someone else say, how could they possibly know?
 

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God I hate the Romo bashing to make Dak look good and Dak bashing to make Romo look good.

Same here. It's completely pointless. Romo and Dak are different chaps. They have their strengths, and they have their weaknesses. There is absolutely no point in bashing one to promote the other. Romo was an excellent quarterback for us, and Dak has been an excellent quarterback for us in his own right. Let's just be grateful that we had Romo in the past, and be grateful that we have Dak now. Lest I remind chaps here of the absolutely dreadful quarterbacking displays between Aikman and Romo. Oh, and the backups that Romo and Dak have had such as Brandon Weeden.

Not only that, but how lucky of a franchise are we that we got Romo undrafted while many teams can't even find a proper quarterback in round 1? Then, we go and get Dak what turned out to be the perfect time for him to arrive here. And we get him with a comp pick in the 4th round. Again, most teams still haven't found a proper quarterback even now. Look at the bloody Dolphins! They can't find a quarterback, can they? Neither can the Browns. The Commanders have been absolutely helpless. They traded a lot of picks to the Rams for RG3 in 2012 in round 2. He was good for 1 year, tore his ACL, and took a nose dive. The Rams, in turn, have had maybe 2 good seasons with Goff. He was absolutely horrid last year. And they traded up to get him the year they moved to Los Angeles. These are just a few examples.
 

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Completely different teams and different rules. So many factors not taken into account e.g. Romo played with some horrible defenses including historically one of the worst in the history of the NFL. His best o-line was in 2014 which Prescott has enjoyed throughout his tenure.

My gripe with Prescott was that last season someone like Brian Hoyer would have won the same eight games. Prescott was unable to carry the team and win any games over an entire season. He only had to do it once for us to win the division and make the play offs. He had more than enough talent around him and I'm not allowing the coaches to be blamed for every single loss - were they responsible for continually missing wide open receivers?

He wants to be paid like a QB that can carry a team to a few wins...well over an entire season he didn't do that.

If people are unable to understand such a basic point then God help you in life generally.
Dak certainly wasn't perfect, but his receivers, at times, dropped more balls than one could realistically expect an offense to overcome. Some of those passes were hard to make catches, and some were right where they were supposed to be. I'm just trying to be fair here, because while Dak didn't carry the team, they didn't do much to pick him up either.

I think they should wait and see what the Big Mac Regime can do with him before deciding his salary.
 

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Against winning teams?

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Does this mean anything?

Romo got hurt and we won 3 games. Enuf said.
 

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That and he’d watch his team collapse and just watch. This team never got help from its coach.

No, it really didn't. All he would do is stand there and clap. Maybe a few words, and then back to standing. Absolutely useless, Garrett was.
 

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Completely different teams and different rules. So many factors not taken into account e.g. Romo played with some horrible defenses including historically one of the worst in the history of the NFL. His best o-line was in 2014 which Prescott has enjoyed throughout his tenure.

My gripe with Prescott was that last season someone like Brian Hoyer would have won the same eight games. Prescott was unable to carry the team and win any games over an entire season. He only had to do it once for us to win the division and make the play offs. He had more than enough talent around him and I'm not allowing the coaches to be blamed for every single loss - were they responsible for continually missing wide open receivers?

He wants to be paid like a QB that can carry a team to a few wins...well over an entire season he didn't do that.

If people are unable to understand such a basic point then God help you in life generally.

Cmon man, Romo had a damn probowl team in 07. We sent 13 players to the probowl. Why is it always Daks fault and never Romos? Hypocrisy at its finest. Romo had his share of good and bad teams. It didn't matter.

I supported Romo and Ill support Dak. That doesn't make be blind to either of their deficiencies. In fact Id prefer we tag Dak and see what he does this season before we sign him long term. Id love to upgrade at any position, but the feeling around here that franchise qbs grow on trees is foolish and there's no chance I want to see another post Aikman era of Cowboys football. We need to be careful with how we move forward.
 

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By the looks of the list......seems like maybe Romo wasted some of Garrett's years too.
I ask this because Dak gets the credit for this teams lack of wins against playoff teams this year. But Dak had the same head coach as Garrett......yet....its Dak's fault?

Of course you didn’t complain when Dak was getting credited solely for wins with his supposed “W/L record” prior to this season did you?
 
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