NFL possibly going to 18 game regular season

Diehardblues

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The players are gonna want a lot of money to play 17, and 18 even more
On top of many other concessions from owners
Obviously more games mean more money but It means more wear and tear on their bodies
Shortened pre season makes it harder to get a big part of your roster ready to play
I know viewership is not as high for pre season games but they are an important part of building a roster and your depth
If TV viewership continues to fall the package the league is receiving could decline. This new deal could be the first time the package has decreased which ultimately means less money for the players.

Extending the season could be the leagues only means to continue asking for more money from networks.
 

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If TV viewership continues to fall the package the league is receiving could decline. This new deal could be the first time the package has decreased which ultimately means less money for the players.

Extending the season could be the leagues only means to continue asking for more money from networks.
The key to more revenue to me is streaming
Sunday ticket is a huge revenue stream that right now is limited to customers of direct. Direct is losing customers so the revenue could be huge if opened up to a bigger audience
A big part of the loss of viewership is going to streaming and much of that they aren’t getting paid on
Open up Sunday ticket where fans who have dish, cable or no tv service can get it and lower the price. Grow the paying viewership by making it availible to a bigger Audience
 

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If TV viewership continues to fall the package the league is receiving could decline. This new deal could be the first time the package has decreased which ultimately means less money for the players.

Extending the season could be the leagues only means to continue asking for more money from networks.

While viewership in the US has been declining, global viewership is increasing. TV income from outside the US is now very significant.

There's also Gamepass subscriptions.
 

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I know you guys must have picked up on this..

but I was wondering what you guys thought about the fact that there is discussion about increasing the regular season from 16 games to 18.

Additionally there is interest of reducing the pre-season games from 5 to 3.

I guess this will really gain speed when the TV contracts are up for renewal.

But wonder what you guys think about this and how does this effect the game.

One thing to me is it will increase rosters to help teams last that long and help keep play quality high.

Other observations?

Thanks guys.

:thumbup:
they would need to add a 2-3 more spots to the each team and have 46 or 47 game day actives....with longer season, comes more injuries and you need to have the extra people on the team.
 

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The NFLPA has to fight this.

If anything, they need to go back to 14.
 

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This is the awful idea that just won't go away. The sport already has enough injuries. Honestly, they would be better off going back to 14 games. That is, if you're talking about injuries, not about money.
 

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The key to more revenue to me is streaming
Sunday ticket is a huge revenue stream that right now is limited to customers of direct. Direct is losing customers so the revenue could be huge if opened up to a bigger audience
A big part of the loss of viewership is going to streaming and much of that they aren’t getting paid on
Open up Sunday ticket where fans who have dish, cable or no tv service can get it and lower the price. Grow the paying viewership by making it availible to a bigger Audience
I'd buy the ticket every year for around 100 bucks, no questions asked. $250? Just don't need to watch all that many games that aren't on anyway.
 

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Bargaining chip.

Players are constantly squealing and crying for more money. It's basically now come down to: "If you want more money, play more games."
 

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I know you guys must have picked up on this..

but I was wondering what you guys thought about the fact that there is discussion about increasing the regular season from 16 games to 18.

Additionally there is interest of reducing the pre-season games from 5 to 3.

I guess this will really gain speed when the TV contracts are up for renewal.

But wonder what you guys think about this and how does this effect the game.

One thing to me is it will increase rosters to help teams last that long and help keep play quality high.

Other observations?

Thanks guys.

:thumbup:

Game is already diluted. I think they should increase the rosters anyway and keep the season at 16 games.

18 games will be another change in Goodell’s death march.

They are ruining the NFL. A really hard thing to do but somehow these idiots are doing it.
 

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I know you guys must have picked up on this..

but I was wondering what you guys thought about the fact that there is discussion about increasing the regular season from 16 games to 18.

Additionally there is interest of reducing the pre-season games from 5 to 3.

I guess this will really gain speed when the TV contracts are up for renewal.

But wonder what you guys think about this and how does this effect the game.

One thing to me is it will increase rosters to help teams last that long and help keep play quality high.

Other observations?

Thanks guys.

:thumbup:
After hearing the players perspective on this, I don't see it happening anytime soon.
 

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Well..

You are just getting old like the rest of us.

My ex-wife said our sex life was getting old and she had seen everything she was going to see b/w us.

And she was right. My new GF I had the last year we were married was wearing me out.

So if you are leaving football as a spectator sport..

can I recommend Australian Rules Nude
Volleyball.:thumbup:

You will will enjoy them diving into the sand and shaking it off themselves.

It's like the Playboy Channel.
TMI
 

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Who benefits from moving to 18 games?

The move to 18 isn't driven by anything more than the backlash from too many preseason games. The owners would lose highly profitable games because the regular season contracts haven't kicked in and they force the season ticket holders to buy the two home preseason games. Full price for a crap product.

Are they going to pay the players 12.5% more salary and are the TV nets or streamers going to step up and pay that because I don't see these owners jacking their expenses up.

And what about the records that they don't even bother to acknowledge when the season went from 14 to 16? They going to keep that magic break point at a 1000 yards a season?

The CBA is coming up as long as the broadcast/streaming rights and they don't really know how either is going to go. The last time the TV nets deal was done, the nets weren't getting hammered by the competition and Amazon, Apple, Google, Microsoft and Netflix weren't as invasive into broadcast and taking large chucks of the audience.

If you recall, NBC blinked and gave up the AFC because it was not in line with their profit goals and they ended up back in the fold and CBS got an end run from Booger in order to get Fox in the deal so the relationship between broadcast and the NFL is questionable because the greed of the owners is limitless. They've already angered one partner, ATT, by trying to end run the Sunday Ticket.

As far as the CBA, I think it was going to be contentious but letting it leak they want to go to 18 isn't ingratiating them to these people. I will be surprised if there is no work stoppage because when everything is about money, the results aren't usually good and to tell you the truth, I could care less if they lockout or strike because the rich keep getting richer and the product keeps getting crappier.

College football can slide some Sunday games in and I will be fine.
 

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I don't think the owners are going to give up any money, so to me adding a 17th game and elimination of the 4th preseason game would be OK. Well, unless the 3rd preseason game just becomes the new 4th, where mostly scrubs just get some exercise before being cut.
 

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I kind of wondered what all of this schedule lengthening would do to the schedule making. Right now they have a nice symmetry going of 6 division games, 4 conference games, 4 out of conference games, and 2 rotating non-division against same place finishes. It makes the schedule easy to predict years out (we know the Cowboys will travel to Pittsburgh in 2024 for example). But extra games messes this up.

The NFL desperately wants to get the Super Bowl to Presidents Day weekend so it can be a three day holiday. Extending the season to 18 with two bye weeks and added playoffs would get them there.

As a player though, not sure I would be thrilled with it unless the pay increase justifies it.
 

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I don't think the owners are going to give up any money, so to me adding a 17th game and elimination of the 4th preseason game would be OK. Well, unless the 3rd preseason game just becomes the new 4th, where mostly scrubs just get some exercise before being cut.
That would be them giving up money. Regular season games get game checks. That preseason game they'd be giving up is a fraction of what the player payroll is for 1 of the 16.

But I am not sure that the players would go for a 12.5% pay increase for going from 16 to 18. I think they'd want more than that because it will shorten careers and earning power.
 

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TV contracts are set to expire in 2022. IMO if any league expansion of games occurs it will be in 2022 where Fox, CBS and ESPN will have to send in bids for two extra weeks, meaning more money to secure those rights.

That will be the extra bump in pay for the players as I doubt the NFL owners give in to the players demands of a 50-50 split on revenue.

Currently, I believe players get 47%. NFL offered 48% to the players and I think they settle between 48.5% and 49%.

Bump in percentage and TV contracts will bump the salary cap up even more.

NFLPA got beat with a stick last time after "lower" level players caved. I think the NFL will win again if it came to that again.
 

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We care about player safety

“adds two extra games”

These players can barely get through preseason without a season ending injury
 
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