Next season smells like a disaster

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Brand new coaches. Now's probably a good time to change course with this roster, too.

It's ugly around here right now.

Cooper looks like a bad signing waiting to happen. Some teams are going to overpay for Byron Jones and Anthony Brown. Zeke looks noticeably slower and aging fast. Jaylon's contract was a woeful mistake. Quinn is probably gone. LVE looks like he's not long for the football world. Byron and Zack have back issues, which seldom get better. Frederick is still recovering from something only Vulcan's can pronounce. Dak isn't worth more than $25 million per year, if that. Safety and defensive tackle are still gaping holes. Tight end remains a big question. We don't even have a reliable punter and kicker.

Now, enter Jerry's band of re-tread coaches. Now at 20 and counting. Are we going to hire a left guard coach next? Do any of them know magic?

Next year smells bad. Like 7-9 bad. Even worse, the roster looks to be regressing and aging rapidly. The window may have already closed on this bunch.

So what now? Scheme can't fix this as much as some want. It's highly unlikely that there's a bag of plays and coverages that will fix what we witnessed last year. This team needs players, different ones, and a lot of them.

Or, somehow this franchise needs to start stockpiling picks and devise a way to build the next contender. You have to be aggressive because these days, rebuilds are three-year projects, not five. Free agency won't allow anything longer.

Yet, the Cowboys keep trying to play the middle. Not aggressive in free agency, and not aggressive in rebuilding. Just treading water.

There is no easy answer here. The Cowboys are between the rock and the proverbial hard place. Do they suffer the PR hit of deconstruction, or do they press on and dump untold millions on the likes of Dak, Cooper, Jones, Quinn, and the very necessary other free agents to make this work? They should choose the former, though they'll likely choose the latter. Jerry's days are dwindling.

We just witnessed perhaps the ugliest season in Cowboys history. Subtract the Rams game, and what exactly happened? They lost the most winnable NFC East in history. They basically blew bunny layups all year long after a 3-0 start.

It ain't good.
theyre not tearing anything down

such a pessimist
 

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You're not wrong but I do disagree about Cooper being a bad signing.

He's still very young and a great talent. I don't buy that he was a healthy player this year because for about 10 weeks he was a top 3 receiver in football and then just took a giant nose dive.



I'm not a fan of the coaching hire at all but we will see. I think the Cowboys need to go with a flashy hire and they played conservative. Every move we make is conservative it seems and we just keep getting stuck in the middle.

If it were me... I'd go get Tom Brady for around 28 million per year and try to move up in the draft for Tua or even Herbert.

Lets just go over that idea for a minute:

1. We have no idea if Brady wont be on the Pats or if he would sign here.
2. Definitely will NOT be for 28 million, that would be a joke.
3. If he does sign somewhere, it wont be for one year
4. To move up and get Tua you are basically kissing away the near future as you would have to kill THIS draft and the next one for starters.
5. What do you think are the chances that Tau or Herbert become elite QB's? Probably about 10% chance of that.

So from a realistic educated position, your plan is not only laughable, but could ruin this franchise for the next 10 years.
 

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That needed to happen last year.

But coaching changes almost never pan out in the NFL. They're largely irrelevant.

Andy Reid didn't change Kansas City so much. Patrick Mahomes did.

Kyle Shanahan is the exception. That guy is special. But his predecessors, Mike Nolan and Jim Tomula, didn't fare so well.

Mike Shanahan was terrific with John Elway. Not so much when he was at Oakland and Washington.

Getting rid of Garrett was needed. Adding McCarthy doesn't fix a problematic roster with fatal flaws. He's just another qualified coach.
Don’t discount Jimmy G impact with Shannahan. They were 4-12 without him last year. He didn’t have to do much in playoffs but he did all year.
 

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No, I said I didn’t have any hope Jerry wouldn’t hire a puppet based on recent history. Obviously he has before with Jimmy and Bill.

I’ll reserve my evaluation once results begin coming in and ultimately in January and beyond.

Everyone knows now that you are a complete liar.

1. For years you applauded Garrett and thought he was doing a great job. You defended him against all comers. All day, every day. You even bragged about him in high win years.
2. Your classic stance was that its been 25 years since Jerry hired a puppet and he would just do the same thing again.
3. You had to be reminded about Bill Parcells 14 years ago
4. As things got dicey and looked like Garrett might be on the out, you started altering your stance to try and save face
5. You started lying and claiming that "Garrett was the best puppet we could ever hope for and it was the ONLY reason you stuck up for him". Dumbest reason in the history of this board, but somehow that makes sense to you. I guess you realize the alternative to looking foolish was worse.
6. Now you lie about your love for Garrett and you lie about saying that we wouldn't hire another puppet.
7. And on top of it, you talk poorly about our new HC McCarthy and the guy hasn't even started.

No one is buying anything you say anymore. You have ZERO credibility left.
 

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I fully expect this season to be an amazing success.

We are a SB talented roster less a SB caliber HC. What could go wrong? Lol
 

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Sorry I have to ask. Are you like 8 or 9 years old or just have selective memory?

Because this was far from the ugliest season in Cowboy history. It's not even in the top 10!

How ugly do you think the Cowboys season will be next year if we go through with his genius plan to NOT resign Dak and Cooper?

How ugly do you think the next 4 season would be?
 

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I fully expect this season to be an amazing success.

We are a SB talented roster less a SB caliber HC. What could go wrong? Lol

Right now the ONLY difference is your hero Garrett got fired. LOL

Put your foot in your mouth much?
 

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It's bit early for that, isn't it? We won't be sniffing a Super Bowl next year but I do expect us to compete.

Yes.

I mean seriously.

We lacked in leadership.
We lacked in head coachmanship!(yeah just made that up lol)

I said this before and I’ll say it again.

I wasn’t happy with the hire.
McCarthy should be good for 2 to 4 more wins simply on better coaching / In-game management.


I’ll go even further. If Jerry had pulled a wade on Jason we would have won the division with McCarthy stepping in. I’ll go even further than that. If he fired Garrett after 14 games. McCarthy wins us the division.
 

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Everyone knows now that you are a complete liar.

1. For years you applauded Garrett and thought he was doing a great job. You defended him against all comers. All day, every day. You even bragged about him in high win years.
2. Your classic stance was that its been 25 years since Jerry hired a puppet and he would just do the same thing again.
3. You had to be reminded about Bill Parcells 14 years ago
4. As things got dicey and looked like Garrett might be on the out, you started altering your stance to try and save face
5. You started lying and claiming that "Garrett was the best puppet we could ever hope for and it was the ONLY reason you stuck up for him". Dumbest reason in the history of this board, but somehow that makes sense to you. I guess you realize the alternative to looking foolish was worse.
6. Now you lie about your love for Garrett and you lie about saying that we wouldn't hire another puppet.
7. And on top of it, you talk poorly about our new HC McCarthy and the guy hasn't even started.

No one is buying anything you say anymore. You have ZERO credibility left.
You obviously still misinterpreted my support of Garrett. I thought he did a great job as a Puppet.

Yea, he was my favorite puppet and I defended him against the Lynch Mob.

I also maintained throughout Id fire him in a NY minute if I thought Jerry would bring in a legit HC and get out of the way. I guess you missed that part or became so engulfed in my defense of Garrett you couldn’t look pass it?
 

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You obviously still misinterpreted my support of Garrett. I thought he did a great job as a Puppet.

Yea, he was my favorite puppet and I defended him against the Lynch Mob.

I also maintained throughout Id fire him in a NY minute if I thought Jerry would bring in a legit HC and get out of the way. I guess you missed that part or became so engulfed in my defense of Garrett you couldn’t look pass it?

I didn't misinterpret anything. Your just a laughable liar and cant get our of your own way.

He didn't do a great job as a puppet either. LOL As if that makes you look any better.

The lynch mob was right and you were dead wrong. Garrett hung you out to dry.
 

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I knew @erod would have his regular the sky is falling tangent. I think everyone knows it's a regular accurance almost like a menstrual cycle.
If you were around long here, you'd know that isn't my general disposition.

But I refuse to put lipstick on this pig just because we got fat farmer Mike here now.

There are huge issues with this roster, and they're getting worse.
 

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I knew @erod would have his regular the sky is falling tangent. I think everyone knows it's a regular accurance almost like a menstrual cycle.
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Brand new coaches. Now's probably a good time to change course with this roster, too.

It's ugly around here right now.

Cooper looks like a bad signing waiting to happen. Some teams are going to overpay for Byron Jones and Anthony Brown. Zeke looks noticeably slower and aging fast. Jaylon's contract was a woeful mistake. Quinn is probably gone. LVE looks like he's not long for the football world. Byron and Zack have back issues, which seldom get better. Frederick is still recovering from something only Vulcan's can pronounce. Dak isn't worth more than $25 million per year, if that. Safety and defensive tackle are still gaping holes. Tight end remains a big question. We don't even have a reliable punter and kicker.

Now, enter Jerry's band of re-tread coaches. Now at 20 and counting. Are we going to hire a left guard coach next? Do any of them know magic?

Next year smells bad. Like 7-9 bad. Even worse, the roster looks to be regressing and aging rapidly. The window may have already closed on this bunch.

So what now? Scheme can't fix this as much as some want. It's highly unlikely that there's a bag of plays and coverages that will fix what we witnessed last year. This team needs players, different ones, and a lot of them.

Or, somehow this franchise needs to start stockpiling picks and devise a way to build the next contender. You have to be aggressive because these days, rebuilds are three-year projects, not five. Free agency won't allow anything longer.

Yet, the Cowboys keep trying to play the middle. Not aggressive in free agency, and not aggressive in rebuilding. Just treading water.

There is no easy answer here. The Cowboys are between the rock and the proverbial hard place. Do they suffer the PR hit of deconstruction, or do they press on and dump untold millions on the likes of Dak, Cooper, Jones, Quinn, and the very necessary other free agents to make this work? They should choose the former, though they'll likely choose the latter. Jerry's days are dwindling.

We just witnessed perhaps the ugliest season in Cowboys history. Subtract the Rams game, and what exactly happened? They lost the most winnable NFC East in history. They basically blew bunny layups all year long after a 3-0 start.

It ain't good.

Gee where to start. Well just last week the NFL's site again listed the top free agents for 2020 and AGAIN Prescott was #1. Now he's listed ahead of Brady, Brees and Rivers. That pretty much blows your idea of not even worth 25 mil a year. Wait what's that, Cooper was listed as #3. Again way off on your assessment. After those two I thank God that you have zero to do with negotiating for the Cowboys.

Then your whining about not signing free agents. If you actually knew even a little about that you would know that the Cowboys had been in cap hell since the cap was started. When they did sign a good free agent they had renegotiate contracts that added tons of dead money onto the cap and that viscous cycle continued year after year, most years doing that just to be able to come up with cap space to resign their own players they wanted. Stephen finally stopped doing big multiple contract restructuring breaking that cycle a few years ago and that is why finally the Cowboys have some cap space this season. Quinn has publicly said he hopes that he and the Cowboys can work out a new contract for the defensive lineman what was the most disruptive and who had the most sacks this past season.

Just this past week there was a report on LVE that said he will be ready for the off season workouts and mini camp. So much for your not long rfor the football world.

Lastly I just keep thanking God that you have zero to do with the Cowboys as either player evaluations or negotiating contracts.
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