QB comparison of Dak vs other quarterbacks

Irvin88_4life

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He improved a lot this past year but he is not in the realm of Top 3 QB like he wants to get paid which is my main issue with him. He racked up a good deal of garbage time stats in games we were either winning massively or when it was pretty much set that we were losing. I want him to play better against the top teams. We aren't ever going to win a Super Bowl if we can't consistently compete with the top teams in the league.
So them other QBs don't rank up stats in garbage time?

As far as being top 3 paid that might not even last this season and in 2 years might not even be top 5-8. In 3 years he most likely will be out the top 10 in QB salary.
 

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So what do you think? 40+m a year based on the stats? If he’s the best, pay him like the best
I'm a huge Dak supporter but he isn't the best QB. I have him around the 5-8 spot because Ben, Brady, Rivers, Brees and Rodgers are declining.

If he signs soon I expect 33-35 million a year and I think that's very fair.
 

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So them other QBs don't rank up stats in garbage time?

As far as being top 3 paid that might not even last this season and in 2 years might not even be top 5-8. In 3 years he most likely will be out the top 10 in QB salary.
I just feel Dak did it more. I could be wrong but I don't care to look up the stats. I just know he didn't play very well when the competition was competent. He also liked to stay in the game when we had big leads against weaker opponents. I still don't understand that. When your up by 4 TD's in the 4th quarter that's usually a good time to put in a backup. We never did. Hard to say if that was Dak refusing to come out or normal Garrett "coaching"
 

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I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?
People want to see him perform better when his weapons and O-Line are either hurt or performing bad. Kind of unfair, but once his contract is signed, there will be positions that will inevitably suffer because of the cap space, and Dak must elevate his team to compensate the loss of strength of depth. Now, hopefully coaching can compensate for the lack of depth, but that is the reservation many have about Dak... his performance when Tyron Smith was out back in 2017 and when he entered 2018 without a stud WR. Thing is, all great quarterbacks have good weapons and for the most part a good O-Line. Its hard to evaluate everyone in a vacuum since they all have different supporting casts. But definitely agree, people are blind in the fact that they aren't seeing Dak is progressing before their eyes.
 

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I think a lot of fans expect perfection. He has yet to put it all together. He is improving. But I noticed this year he isn’t running with the ball as much. Especially when pressured. He is still holding the ball looking. He wants the big play I get it. Romo did it. He will continue to improve and hasn’t hit his ceiling yet. Keep taking care of the ball.

Make no mistake about it there are some who dislike Dak for reasons other than his performance on the field.
 

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I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?


Because last year he couldn't lead his team to wins when the games meant the most. It's been stated many times NO, Minnesota, NE, Buffalo, and Philadelphia.

All those were on primetime stages and Prescott and the offense were terrible and didn't get it done.

This was a contract year for Prescott and he left questions unanswered. There are still doubts about him after four seasons.
 

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This is what I was about to post. Romo was a great quarterback but a Romo-led team never made it to a championship game much less a Super Bowl so he will forever be judged as a good-but-not-great quarterback.

In sports, it's all about winning. Nick Foles is not a great quarterback, but he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback. Trent Dilfer was not a great quarterback, but he is a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

The only thing that matters to most fans when it comes to players is winning. Not stats, comparisons, speed, arm strength, accuracy, etc. All of those things are nothing more than argument fodder while everyone waits for the real "winning" to happen.
Winning is the most critical stat for QB’s but not all players.
 

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I just feel Dak did it more. I could be wrong but I don't care to look up the stats. I just know he didn't play very well when the competition was competent. He also liked to stay in the game when we had big leads against weaker opponents. I still don't understand that. When your up by 4 TD's in the 4th quarter that's usually a good time to put in a backup. We never did. Hard to say if that was Dak refusing to come out or normal Garrett "coaching"
Go watch how many times Brees, Brady, Rodgers or any of the so called elite QBs come out the game against weaker competition. Patriots run the score up all the time and its Brady staying in the game
 

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I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?


Here is the truth, many of us Prescott fans know he is a great QB. Me personally as much as I thought Romo could be magical, I also thought at times he had a two cent head and would get us in trouble throwing ridiculous stupid throws. Romo flat out scared me and his gambles were never going to be enough to win us a superbowl. Dak on the other hand I honestly see his major weakness has been the consistency of our entire team and coaching staff. The things that people point to such as accuracy, or he holds the ball too long are valid but only to an extent because this all can be vehemently debated.

Some of the things we debate about Dak can and are debated about just about every QB that has ever played the game. Holding the ball too long is because no one is open correct? Well, much of that is on our talent, execution by our talent and coaching calls and schemes, this isn't all on Dak. Some say Dak doesn't see the field and misses open guys! Well, all Qb's miss open guys because they only have a few second to make decisions or flat out don't see the open man... Either way, Dak is not perfect but to sit here and say he isn't good enough to get it done is delusional. Hell, Deion Sanders is even throwing Dak major love lately, give the kid a chance he is a winner and a guy who wants to be the best.

Is he worth 30 mil a year? Well, I would think so based on what he has shown. Matt Ryan, Kirk Cousins aren't even as good as Dak is right now and they're getting paid. Dak will get his money whether some like it or not, and hopefully Jones knows how to fit this all within the cap creatively.
 

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The short version here is there are a handful of squeaking wheels on this forum who have such a loyalty to Tony Romo no matter what Dak dose it will flatout never be any good . Every negative thing they say about him has been proved wrong , but they will continue relentlessly to move the goal posts and ignore the measurables that the normal football world use that are not overly invested in Tony Romo to judge QB performance .

Dont sweat it enjoy Daks game nothing we could do about Jerry wasting his rookie contract with a poor coaching staff . Time to watch Dak really break out this year with a good coach and staff that will hold the rest of the team accountable .

Will be nice to see us not lead the league in dropped passes , missed FGs , and bad field position along with establishing a defense that can take the ball away one in a while . How cant you like a QB that can get tough yards and straight arm guys to the ground if only the rest of the team other than Jeff Heath played with that kind of effort and toughness
Where is the proof of all these Romo fans that hate Dak?. Why don't you guys never have proof of this?
 

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I mentioned this in another post, but that post is like 8 pages long so I figured I would put it here.

I mainly looked into some comparisons because the main go tos I see are alot of "Dak will never be accurate" or "Dak will never be a Brady or Brees" and "Hes already played 4 seasons hes not going to get any better"

So I went and looked for myself...honestly I was very surprised! https://www.pro-football-reference....toyear_5=2007&player_id5=RoetBe00&idx=players

Highest completion percentage but hes inaccurate? Oh wait he dinks and dunks...weird because he was rated 2nd in yrds per attempt and 1st in adjusted yards per attempt although I dont even know what that means.
Ya but with that protection it's easy to wait for recievers to get open...only he was sacked more times than everyone but Roethlisberger...hmmm...oh ya highest qb rating and way less thrown interceptions than those guys. Still not sure how an inaccurate qb throws 97 tds and only 36 ints. Talking about rushing would just be unfair with the guys I'm comparing him to for sure so not going there....so with all that being said...how come so many Dallas "fans" are treating this guy like he's garbage?

Honestly...………..there is just a handful of Dak haters that keep saying the same things over and over again. They get proven wrong a soon as they do it. No need really to react to it other than to laugh and show stats proving the opposite.

Dak is inaccurate, yet he lead the NFL in passing. LOL

And its not like you can teach them anything. They don't care about sounding intelligent. They just hate to hate. Their ONLY mission is to annoy.
 

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Under Garrett its hard to judge Dak .

Now with MM we will start to see if Dak can win in the post season .
 

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Where is the proof of all these Romo fans that hate Dak?. Why don't you guys never have proof of this?

LOL...…..are you joking? Anyone that has been here for a while knows how this all started. Romo lovers getting pissed that Romo didn't get his job back. The hatred was imbedded. And NOTHING that Dak does can change their mind.

When the truth of the matter is that Garrett was the guy responsible for the decision to keep Dak starting. Which to be honest was one of the best decisions he ever made. And it wound up being the ONLY year he won coach of the year honors.

If you recall that year, the Cowboys won 11 games in a row at one point. And they were rolling over teams. To pull Dak in the middle of an 11 game win streak would have been madness.
 

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Under Garrett its hard to judge Dak .

Now with MM we will start to see if Dak can win in the post season .
I still can't believe Garrett let Moore bench our two top WR's on 4th and goal in Philly with the game on the line. I doubt very much Big Mac will turn a blind on Moore's idiotic calls at times.


Make no mistake about it there are some who dislike Dak for reasons other than his performance on the field.
:huh:
 

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LOL...…..are you joking? Anyone that has been here for a while knows how this all started. Romo lovers getting pissed that Romo didn't get his job back. The hatred was imbedded. And NOTHING that Dak does can change their mind.

When the truth of the matter is that Garrett was the guy responsible for the decision to keep Dak starting. Which to be honest was one of the best decisions he ever made. And it wound up being the ONLY year he won coach of the year honors.

If you recall that year, the Cowboys won 11 games in a row at one point. And they were rolling over teams. To pull Dak in the middle of an 11 game win streak would have been madness.
Blah blah blah. Show the proof. Spare me this other talk. If its like you and others say showing proof should be easy.
 

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He improved a lot this past year but he is not in the realm of Top 3 QB like he wants to get paid which is my main issue with him. He racked up a good deal of garbage time stats in games we were either winning massively or when it was pretty much set that we were losing. I want him to play better against the top teams. We aren't ever going to win a Super Bowl if we can't consistently compete with the top teams in the league.
I understand your argument, and I'm saying the same thing from a different angle... the other QBs listed were putting up worse margins in those same situations. These point im trying to make is Dak is doing some really good things and even better then these elite QBs were doing who were once at his level of experience
 
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