Does the idea of drafting another quarterback in the first round entice you at all?

csirl said:

Yes. We should draft a 1st round QB. Strike rate has improved the past 2-3 of years - most 1st rounders in this period are starters.

There's also the cap hit. A lot of 2nd contracts are overpriced and restrictive. Too many teams are getting burnt this way. Better to use the money to improve the roster.

With new coaches and a new system this is the ideal time to change the Cowboys QB room. We should replace all the QBs to help change the culture. New QB room should be 2020 1st rounder, vet with starting experience (one of Mariota, Bortles, Keenum etc. on short term contract c.5m) and a hard working undrafted FA from a small college with development upside.

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THIS is a plan I could get behind. Nice post bud.

It doesn’t have to be in first round. We can find a stronger back up and developmental type in 2nd round or later. Look how great of backup we found in 4th round.

Diehardblues said:

It doesn’t have to be in first round. We can find a stronger back up and developmental type in 2nd round or later. Look how great of backup we found in 4th round.

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you have been pimping an elite replacement for how long now? then you want to go get a Qback in second round or later your confusing. I mean I understand the money thing and if we were just a qb away Id consider all the nonsense you and the other nay sayers have brought out in the 50 dak threads

Dak is down the list of reasons why we were home watching the playoffs. He has some blame but hes down the list. You guys get all jizzed up about Mahomes and I get that hes good. He good in part because of the firepower around him and the system Andy Reid works in. That said Mahomes isnt available.

Now if Dak holds out and we need a QB come the season Ill eat my words but this thing will get done. If the front office wanted to play hardball they should have done it last off-season instead of bending over and letting Dlaw and Zeke pull a train on them.

The cap space is not unmanageable well see how it plays out but this draft may end up being one of the most important drafts in the history of the cowboys franchise. We cant have no Tristan Hills or Taco Charleton. We need day 1 contributors and starters from the 1st 2 possible 3 rounds.

CATCH17 said:

We don’t need to find a better option.. We just need to find something similar and if we create a optimal environment for a QB to play in, and have the cap flexibility to provide that QB a defense then we’ll be fine. Especially if McCarthy is an upgrade.

Dak has played in one of the most optimal environments for a QB and he has done a solid job but has no playoff success to show for it and his contract demands just make it harder to provide all the things he needs to win a Super Bowl.

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The environment has hardly been optimum. If your agenda is against keeping Prescott, there's little use having a discussion. Your mind is made up that he's "average." We won't simply be "fine" by plugging a "similar" QB. Not how it works. Prescott has overachieved for his nothing of a rookie contract.

Championship teams are built from the trenches. But go ahead and find another QB and good luck building the trenches.

Streetwise said:

The environment has hardly been optimum. If your agenda is against keeping Prescott, there's little use having a discussion. Your mind is made up that he's "average." We won't simply be "fine" by plugging a "similar" QB. Not how it works. Prescott has overachieved for his nothing of a rookie contract.

Championship teams are built from the trenches. But go ahead and find another QB and good luck building the trenches.

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You speak to me about "trenches" but then come back to pay the mediocre QB.

How about go buy some trench players with the left over money and go get another mediocre QB.

You want your cake and eat it too and you will not get that once Dak is paid unless we pull off some miracles in the draft and get lucky with someone like Trysten Hill.

Dallas can't build the Powerhouse roster Dak needs to win a championship. They thought they did it this year only to go 8-8.

iceberg said:

not at the point in which we're picking. but to be fair to dak, he's done better than quite a few 1st round / 1st selection picks over the last several decades. while i'm not a huge dak fan, i do realize he's better than a majority of qb's we could draft and it would be insane to simply give up and go fishing again.

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I don't think it's giving up. I think you just have to realize what he needs to win a championship.

Everyone wants a strong defense, RB, Oline, and WR's for Dak but that is just not realistic if you pay him all that money.

So our only hope is that if we pay Dak like he is elite that he actually plays elite and as solid as he is I don't see an elite QB suddenly emerging in his 5th year.

He'll be a good solid player that needs a lot of help to win a football game.

Just let jerry use his 2nd round wildcat pick on a developmental qb. Just test him for the weed before you draft him.

opps... I mean Jerry and not the player to be

Silly said:

Just let jerry use his 2nd round wildcat pick on a developmental qb. Just test him for the weed before you draft him.

opps... I mean Jerry and not the player to be

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I only see 5 legit QB prospects in this class and they will all be gone by our 2nd rounder.

D4KADON said:

It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board

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Absolutely, its a viable option for me. If Dak's average yearly salary doesn't start with a "2", then I'd rather go in another direction.

CATCH17 said:

I only see 5 legit QB prospects in this class and they will all be gone by our 2nd rounder.

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I hear you..... But that isn't the be all and end all. Warner and Brady were not top picks and look what they achieved. Dak is good also... Top round pick can be damned.

If Tua for some strange reason is sitting there at pick 17 you don't even hesitate. He has a year to heal behind Dak and even if we sign, tag and/or ship Dakota Prescott we have Tua who can start or be shipped for collateral in the future.

This being said we know we have a safety and quality DT between our 2nd rounder and FA.

AKATheRake said:

If Tua for some strange reason is sitting there at pick 17 you don't even hesitate. He has a year to heal behind Dak and even if we sign, tag and/or ship Dakota Prescott we have Tua who can start or be shipped for collateral in the future.

This being said we know we have a safety and quality DT between our 2nd rounder and FA.

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The absolute dream case scenario. Right on man. Like Will Farrell in Old School, if this happened I might go streaking, lol.

D4KADON said:

It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board

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If we had the #1 pick and could take Barrow, I would be very intrigued. Tua would somewhat intrigue me, and if somehow he fell to 17 and we were convinced of his health, he would have to be a consideration. I doubt he falls that far though unless health is a concern. Anything outside of that I would not be intrigued.

CATCH17 said:

Absolutely..

If I can get Herbert I’ll be happy because he is a solid risk reward.

He’s the most talented QB in this draft and just looks like the modern day prototype.

Then we could spend money on defenders in FA.

If we get a quality cheap QB, MM coaches at a high level, and a legit defense then we have the recipe for a championship.

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All of this.

D4KADON said:

It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board

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Not me. Drafting is a crap shoot. If nothing else, getting Dak in the fourth round should tell us that.

Goff and Wentz went 1st and 2nd overall and have been at least no better than our fourth-rounder. Next, we tried to trade for Lynch, who turned out to be a mid-first-round bust. We also tried to trade for Connor Cook at the beginning of the fourth round and he washed out after two years in Oakland as a backup.

Starting over could just lead to a series of misses no matter how good the coach is. And we've got too many other areas to fix to miss on quarterback.

Now, if the option is to bring in a veteran who would cost less and be a bridge to the next quarterback while being good enough to help us now, that's worth considering. However, those guys are going to be highly sought, as will Prescott if we don't sign him.

We get grass-is-greener syndrome around here, but usually that doesn't turn out to be true. Some fans had it toward Romo, wanting us to move on to the next quarterback. Now, we have done that, our fortunes didn't change and fans are ready to move on to the next one.

D4KADON said:

Does the idea of drafting another quarterback in the first round entice you at all?

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It would be an enticing question if the idea had any realistic chance of materializing.

only under 2 circumstances.
1.we know Dak aint gonna be here.
or
2.Tua is there @17.

Streetwise said:

Boggles my mind how some fans think we can land a better option with such certainty, and shows zero concern on this mediocre DL. At best mediocre. Prescott has played at a high level for 4 straight seasons, missing zero games and getting paid nothing. It's ridiculous to assume he doesn't deserve to be paid. If the FO doesn't retain him, they're idiots.

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yeah the qb prospects all look good , till they start playing in nfl lol.
in 2017 chicago passed on mahomes and took trubisky, who they thought was far superior to mahomes.
8 other teams passed on mahomes to take other players, and out of those 8 only 2 amounted to anything.
But even so , the guy to take was mahomes, but nobody except the chiefs saw it !.

I see different qb names posted here for the guy to get, and odds are only 1 of those is any good, and they could
all be busts.

How many here actually think the jones boys can pick the right qb, out of the group in the draft, and is there even
a good one in the group?
A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. We know what we have in dak and he is serviceable, and I would think
about drafting a qb, but I would wait until one I really liked was going to be in the draft.

I know one thing, mahomes was a once in a decade pick, there are no more mahomes coming anytime soon.
he had prepared for being a nfl qb his whole life, and he has the right mental qualities also.

If dallas drafts another qb, they will probably be like tannehil, mariota, trubisky, so nothing to get excited about,
and not even better than dak.

If Joe Burrow is available at 17, you take him.

D4KADON said:

It’s not a knock on our quarterback. I’m genuinely asking.

I like Dak but the idea completely starting over with McCarthy is an enticing option for me. I’m good either way but I wanted to get a room temperature of the board

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Me personally, I think it's worth trading up to get Herbert at least. I don't have enough confidence in Dak to pay him that much money when we can get a QB probably just as good or better on another rookie deal.