Dak Prescott Should Hold Out for the Bank

Sevenup3000 · Jan 30, 2020

conner01 said:
I don’t think the price is out of line and I get why they want a long term deal
The GM’s job is to get deals done in the best interest of the team, the agents is the best interest of the player
They will meet in the middle and it will get done

No, you are correct. The team should act in their own self-interests...one of those should be not pissing off their franchise QB that is more than willing to execute a fair market QB contract. After trying to get him to execute such a contract (long term and out of line with other similarly situated QBs), the Cowboys should have put a standard one on the table so Prescott can sign.

Now, the price has gone up and continues to go up for the Cowboys.

Cmac · Jan 30, 2020

Dak about to be the 2020 Fall Guy Nominee, once and for all.

eromeopolk · Feb 4, 2020

CowboyRoy said:
I think Dak himself would disagree with you. And he has intimated as much several times.

I think Dak's agent and Dak totally agrees with me. Jerry had a 4 year discount and did nothing to make things Dak Friendly (see Romo Friendly). Dak allowed everyone to get paid before him (see Smith, Collins, Lawrence, etc.). Dak had to play without a no.1 WR for 2016 (Bryant injured), 2017 (Bryant injured), and 1/2 the 2018 season. Dak played without a no. 1 TE all of the 2018 season, and then had the oldest no.1 TE in NFL history in 2019, Dak had 5 defensive players on the 2016-2019 roster get Super Bowl rings for the Chiefs. Dak played without Zeke most of the 2017 season. Dak had a novice 1 year QB coach as a OC in 2019. Finally Dak had Jason Garrett clap for 4 years doing nothing as Head Coach. So, Jerry Jones did not do anything to get to a Super Bowl as the Cowboys owner, president, defacto head coach, and GM. Compare to what Jimmy Johnson put around Aikman from 1990-1993. Compare to what Parcells made available to Romo from 2003-2006.

So let the Dumbo GM franchise Dak. It will kill what is left of the morale of the team, undermined the new coaching staff, and keep in place watching the Super Bowl on TV for Cowboy players, and fans.

Dak played this right by giving 4 years of winning football (made the best of what was given). Jerry played it wrong by doing nothing to take advantage of cheap young winning QB (he did not build a team around Dak).

Bullet22 · Feb 4, 2020

We all know he is going to get paid....

aikemirv · Feb 4, 2020

Aviano90 said:
Dak Prescott has made just over $4 million for 4 years of play. He has probably been the most underpaid athlete relative to his performance in the entire NFL. He should squeeze every penny he can out of the cap and use any leverage he needs in order to do so. Whether he does it or not remains to be seen.

Honestly Dak should thank his lucky stars that he was fortunate enough to land with the Cowboys. Great Oline, great RB and owner who went out to get a #1 receiver to help him. He has had everything land in his favor since he was drafted in the NFL except for a good coach.

Not to mention the endorsement he gets because he is on the Cowboys.

Poor Dak!

nightrain · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
What does Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson have in common? They both were 3rd/4th round picks that because of their success at QB as rookies allowed there teams 4 years to stockpile talent (draft, FA, re-signings) to challenge for a Super Bowl.

The difference is that Pete Carroll is a better Coach/GM than Jerry Jones. 4 years on Russell Wilson rookie deal the Seahawks went to 2 Super Bowls and 4 straight playoff appearances. The players he accumulated prior to getting his QB and the players drafted/signed after allowed this to happen. Even after rebuilding, the Seahawks are a team that is contending for a Super Bowl consistently in the playoffs 8 of 10 with Carroll as HC and 7 of 8 years with Russell Wilson at QB.

Jerry Jones had the same opportunity hitting a double with Dak and Zeke in 2016. However he did nothing to move the team from 2016. He got rid of Dez, kept Jason Garrett as Head Coach, did not sign any defensive free agents to move the team forward, let all the starting LBs (excluding the injured ones) , S, and CBs walk, traded away CB Chavarius Ward, let the Lions get CB Micheal Jackson, and gave away his 2017 no.1 draft pick freely to the Dolphins in 2019.

So why would and should Dak Prescott take a discount on his contract to get to a Super Bowl allowing Jerry "jocks and socks GM" Jones to build a team around him? Jerry Jones has a 25 year track record of not getting to a Super Bowl as GM. In fact Jerry did not build around Dak, he subtracted from Dak.

So a home town discount was not earned by GM Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott should hold out for the bank.

Wilson is a much better QB than Dak. The Cowboys are afraid to death of committing to Dak, unlike the Seahawks were with Wilson. There's your difference.

John813 · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
Dak played this right by giving 4 years of winning football (made the best of what was given). Jerry played it wrong by doing nothing to take advantage of cheap young winning QB (he did not build a team around Dak).

You are forgetting that Dallas was in win now mode in 2016 prior to the preseason. The 17/18 cap numbers were going to be ugly, especially if Romo was still the starter.

They had a bunch of 2nd contracts on the team, with restructuring done to T. Smith, Romo, Lee and others kicking the higher cap hits down the road.

They ate 20mil in dead cap over two years releasing Romo.
In 2017 they had 25mil in dead cap charges.
In 2018 they ate 8mil alone on Dez Bryant and still had 8.9mil of dead cap from Romo and Thornton and Carroll had 4.5mil of dead cap. Think Scandrick had 2,3mil in DC too.

Other words, for 3 of his 4 years here, they weren't rolling with 40mil of free cap space and sticking their thumbs in their butts.
They really couldn't do much, unless you wanted them to restructure more contracts for the tune of higher cap hits down the road.

Last year they could of made some noise in FA but didn't. That was a mistake. They claimed it was to keep their core, which is a bit overrated...

Bigdog · Feb 4, 2020

The question should also be what they do not have in common and that is Wilson has been to the SB twice and one it once. Just saying

Sydla · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
What does Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson have in common? They both were 3rd/4th round picks that because of their success at QB as rookies allowed there teams 4 years to stockpile talent (draft, FA, re-signings) to challenge for a Super Bowl.

The difference is that Pete Carroll is a better Coach/GM than Jerry Jones. 4 years on Russell Wilson rookie deal the Seahawks went to 2 Super Bowls and 4 straight playoff appearances. The players he accumulated prior to getting his QB and the players drafted/signed after allowed this to happen. Even after rebuilding, the Seahawks are a team that is contending for a Super Bowl consistently in the playoffs 8 of 10 with Carroll as HC and 7 of 8 years with Russell Wilson at QB.

Jerry Jones had the same opportunity hitting a double with Dak and Zeke in 2016. However he did nothing to move the team from 2016. He got rid of Dez, kept Jason Garrett as Head Coach, did not sign any defensive free agents to move the team forward, let all the starting LBs (excluding the injured ones) , S, and CBs walk, traded away CB Chavarius Ward, let the Lions get CB Micheal Jackson, and gave away his 2017 no.1 draft pick freely to the Dolphins in 2019.

So why would and should Dak Prescott take a discount on his contract to get to a Super Bowl allowing Jerry "jocks and socks GM" Jones to build a team around him? Jerry Jones has a 25 year track record of not getting to a Super Bowl as GM. In fact Jerry did not build around Dak, he subtracted from Dak.

So a home town discount was not earned by GM Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott should hold out for the bank.

He's not as good as Wilson.

So he shouldn't get paid more than Wilson.

How's that?

PS - And don't argue that contracts have gone up over time. Wilson signed his new deal just 8 months ago. So no, Prescott should not get more because of "timing".

817Gill · Feb 4, 2020

conner01 said:
He’s not gonna take a discount and he’s said he didn’t think he deserved Wilson money
So I suspect he will be just under that
I don’t think salary is as big of an issue as years
He want short term to get another pay day right after the cba and Mahommes gets signed
Jerry wants long term because he knows in a couple years it will be relatively cheap for QB money
They will meet in the middle and it’s done

Yeah the issue has always been length. Dak and co want 4 and we want 6+. Main reason I think this gets worked out honestly

Aviano90 · Feb 4, 2020

aikemirv said:
Honestly Dak should thank his lucky stars that he was fortunate enough to land with the Cowboys. Great Oline, great RB and owner who went out to get a #1 receiver to help him. He has had everything land in his favor since he was drafted in the NFL except for a good coach.

Not to mention the endorsement he gets because he is on the Cowboys.

Poor Dak!

Zeke too. Lazy butt rode his 2016 season to big early pay day. Needs a ski mask now instead of a helmet.

irving · Feb 4, 2020

nightrain said:
Wilson is a much better QB than Dak. The Cowboys are afraid to death of committing to Dak, unlike the Seahawks were with Wilson. There's your difference.

There is no rule saying Dallas has to sign Dak. If they are not sold on him they can let him walk. It’s a business, no one is forcing the Cowboys to do anything.

MWH1967 · Feb 4, 2020

LatinMind said:
He will simply get franchised if he does that.

he is going to be anyway... Big Mike wants some time i'm almost sure to work with Dak before he invests his carrier on him.

USArmyVet · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
What does Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson have in common? They both were 3rd/4th round picks that because of their success at QB as rookies allowed there teams 4 years to stockpile talent (draft, FA, re-signings) to challenge for a Super Bowl.

The difference is that Pete Carroll is a better Coach/GM than Jerry Jones. 4 years on Russell Wilson rookie deal the Seahawks went to 2 Super Bowls and 4 straight playoff appearances. The players he accumulated prior to getting his QB and the players drafted/signed after allowed this to happen. Even after rebuilding, the Seahawks are a team that is contending for a Super Bowl consistently in the playoffs 8 of 10 with Carroll as HC and 7 of 8 years with Russell Wilson at QB.

Jerry Jones had the same opportunity hitting a double with Dak and Zeke in 2016. However he did nothing to move the team from 2016. He got rid of Dez, kept Jason Garrett as Head Coach, did not sign any defensive free agents to move the team forward, let all the starting LBs (excluding the injured ones) , S, and CBs walk, traded away CB Chavarius Ward, let the Lions get CB Micheal Jackson, and gave away his 2017 no.1 draft pick freely to the Dolphins in 2019.

So why would and should Dak Prescott take a discount on his contract to get to a Super Bowl allowing Jerry "jocks and socks GM" Jones to build a team around him? Jerry Jones has a 25 year track record of not getting to a Super Bowl as GM. In fact Jerry did not build around Dak, he subtracted from Dak.

So a home town discount was not earned by GM Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott should hold out for the bank.

Stop with all the BS Dak man love as he isn;t worth $30+ Million/year.

Aviano90 · Feb 4, 2020

He should use every tool in the box to squeeze every cent he can on this next contract.

eromeopolk · Feb 4, 2020

nightrain said:
Wilson is a much better QB than Dak. The Cowboys are afraid to death of committing to Dak, unlike the Seahawks were with Wilson. There's your difference.

Yes, Wilson was one round better than Dak Prescott and light years behind Wilson in Head Coach and GM. Wilson had the Legion of Boom Defense and Beast Mode. Dak had the Reason for Doom defense and a suspended Zeke in 2017, no no.1 WR or no.1 TE in 2018, and then Cabo Zeke in 2019.

Didn't Dak Prescott win a Playoff game over Russell Wilson? The difference is...

Jerry Jones
OWNER / PRESIDENT / GENERAL MANAGER/DE FACTO HEAD COACH

InTheZone · Feb 4, 2020

Aviano90 said:
He should use every tool in the box to squeeze every cent he can on this next contract.

yup, let a team that feels like they don't need any other piece but a QB break the bank for him. Good luck to them and congrats to him, he got what he wanted!

Whirlwin · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
What does Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson have in common? They both were 3rd/4th round picks that because of their success at QB as rookies allowed there teams 4 years to stockpile talent (draft, FA, re-signings) to challenge for a Super Bowl.

The difference is that Pete Carroll is a better Coach/GM than Jerry Jones. 4 years on Russell Wilson rookie deal the Seahawks went to 2 Super Bowls and 4 straight playoff appearances. The players he accumulated prior to getting his QB and the players drafted/signed after allowed this to happen. Even after rebuilding, the Seahawks are a team that is contending for a Super Bowl consistently in the playoffs 8 of 10 with Carroll as HC and 7 of 8 years with Russell Wilson at QB.

Jerry Jones had the same opportunity hitting a double with Dak and Zeke in 2016. However he did nothing to move the team from 2016. He got rid of Dez, kept Jason Garrett as Head Coach, did not sign any defensive free agents to move the team forward, let all the starting LBs (excluding the injured ones) , S, and CBs walk, traded away CB Chavarius Ward, let the Lions get CB Micheal Jackson, and gave away his 2017 no.1 draft pick freely to the Dolphins in 2019.

So why would and should Dak Prescott take a discount on his contract to get to a Super Bowl allowing Jerry "jocks and socks GM" Jones to build a team around him? Jerry Jones has a 25 year track record of not getting to a Super Bowl as GM. In fact Jerry did not build around Dak, he subtracted from Dak.

So a home town discount was not earned by GM Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott should hold out for the bank.

I think all NFL players should hold out for the bank. What I don’t think is what franchise should pay them and what franchise shouldn’t. I’m not gonna be grudge any of them the money one play good career is over. Yes I would pay Prescott . I never would have paid the other guy

Whirlwin · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
Yes, Wilson was one round better than Dak Prescott and light years behind Wilson in Head Coach and GM. Wilson had the Legion of Boom Defense and Beast Mode. Dak had the Reason for Doom defense and a suspended Zeke in 2017, no no.1 WR or no.1 TE in 2018, and then Cabo Zeke in 2019.

Didn't Dak Prescott win a Playoff game over Russell Wilson? The difference is...

Jerry Jones
OWNER / PRESIDENT / GENERAL MANAGER/DE FACTO HEAD COACH

I think Prescott is an absolute winner. It’s so hard to judge anybody on this team with last year’s coaching. He has proven he can throw every single NFL throw. The Ischemic changes way too much You go from dink and dunk. To try and light it up. I mean come on where is the balance.

GORICO · Feb 4, 2020

eromeopolk said:
What does Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson have in common? They both were 3rd/4th round picks that because of their success at QB as rookies allowed there teams 4 years to stockpile talent (draft, FA, re-signings) to challenge for a Super Bowl.

The difference is that Pete Carroll is a better Coach/GM than Jerry Jones. 4 years on Russell Wilson rookie deal the Seahawks went to 2 Super Bowls and 4 straight playoff appearances. The players he accumulated prior to getting his QB and the players drafted/signed after allowed this to happen. Even after rebuilding, the Seahawks are a team that is contending for a Super Bowl consistently in the playoffs 8 of 10 with Carroll as HC and 7 of 8 years with Russell Wilson at QB.

Jerry Jones had the same opportunity hitting a double with Dak and Zeke in 2016. However he did nothing to move the team from 2016. He got rid of Dez, kept Jason Garrett as Head Coach, did not sign any defensive free agents to move the team forward, let all the starting LBs (excluding the injured ones) , S, and CBs walk, traded away CB Chavarius Ward, let the Lions get CB Micheal Jackson, and gave away his 2017 no.1 draft pick freely to the Dolphins in 2019.

So why would and should Dak Prescott take a discount on his contract to get to a Super Bowl allowing Jerry "jocks and socks GM" Jones to build a team around him? Jerry Jones has a 25 year track record of not getting to a Super Bowl as GM. In fact Jerry did not build around Dak, he subtracted from Dak.

So a home town discount was not earned by GM Jerry Jones and Dak Prescott should hold out for the bank.

I SO DISAGREE--- Dak aint worth it...

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