The Daklemma

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zeke21 said:
Why is everyone forgetting history... EVEN IF you are a Dak fan.. we drafted this dude in the 4th round (for a reason!!) and we plugged him into a legit team and he won the divisional title.. twice in four years.

Why are we soooo convinced that we couldn't do exactly the same thing with a first round QB?!! High rated QBs are making a splash in the NFL faster than ever before.. they are primed to run pro offences from day 1.

I think the Chiefs are a PERFECT template that we need to look at. They had Alex Smith and despite the howls of laughter.. that dude was a solid QB. He put up good numbers, won games.. would have kept KC in the hunt every season he was behind centre. They go out and get Mahomes and he takes them to the next level.

Dak is the Alex Smith in this example. Dak is 'good enough' bGood postut he isn't a Superbowl winning level QB.. he would need absolutely everything to be perfect around him and then some. This is not a guy that turns around a game in 9 minutes in the fourth quarter of the SB. He is NOT that guy.

If you want to pay him middle of the road money.. maybe ok.. but it is a no brainer to go out there and start trying to find our guy.. find our Wilson, our Mahomes, our Jackson etc etc.

Dak is not the guy. Full stop. End of Story.
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Good post.

I suggest to you that Jerrah came to an epipheny.

He realized his QB is not who he had hoped.

That he may not ever be that.

So the only way to not have to go out and sign an expensive FA QB..

instead he would pay Dak well but not top dollar money and instead get the best coach he could sign, McCarthy.

Paid him a top contract and fixed the mistake that was Garrett.

So by offering Dak lower money, in Jerrah's mind, Dak is helping pay McCarthy and soon Amari Cooper.

So Dallas is going to stay the course and try to sign Dak to a contract that fits this guideline.

They will offer him $32 mil/yr and if Dak balks..

Tag him for that and let him play in 2020. If he does well, then 2021 becomes his big payday.

If not, the contract numbers tumble and Dak accepts a lower contract.

If not and a FA QB is found or drafted for McCarthy to win with.

Nobody wants to say this but the hiring of McCarthy is the most important move by this franchise.

Not whether Dak is signed or not.
 
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Tom Brady got exposed for the first time in like forever now that he doesn't have the best Oline, a true #1 WR, a true #1 TE or a true #1 RB, hence why he was done in the divisional round of the playoffs.

I thought he is the G.O.A.T.? I thought he is capable of lifting up lesser players around him? I thought he is the opposite of Dak?

Nope.

All QBs need a good Oline, a good WR and a good RB. That's not including if you're lucky to have a good Defense and a good coaching staff. What happened to the "lifting"?
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Lift mis huevos!!
 
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Future said:
There's no dilemma. Pay your quarterback.
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Leaning towards this.

They have 7 or 8 players already locked to franchise contracts, you can't waste their careers by sucking the next 2-3 by playing a rookie QB who "hopefully" might develop to be better than Dak (keyword hopefully).

You don't play on what ifs or hopes, you have someone now you can win with
 
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CouchCoach said:
Big Mike is not an insult to the man, Fat Mikey is an insult because you don't want him. The man hasn't done anything here to warrant a slam about his weight. I do enjoy the double entendre's that Risen Star tosses out there but just nicknaming him that is a slam, just like calling the owner Booger.
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I have to agree Coach. Diehard is purposely insulting McCarthy with his juvenile name calling, and it's getting old in a hurry.
 
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Rockport said:
It is tough. I don't think they teach English anymore. It was this sentence:

Whether you are a Dakster or Dakater, I think most will agree, he is not a lifter, he needs talent on the field with him as we've seen when the RB1 was missing and there was no WR1.
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It sounds like something the character Alex DeLarge, gang leader of the "Droogs" would say in the movie "A Clockwork Orange".

Hey OP, no need to apologize, we all have our posting moments - now you have me doing it!
 
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Scotman said:
I don't think MM has the flexibility of just starting over. Jerry isn't about to put off any chance at a potential run for any future gains. MM is better off to believe in his own ability to get the very most out of Prescott and make a run with him.

I think you'll see Dak signed. Amari signed. And I would bet you see a big name free agent or two. Future salary cap be damned. Jerry's going to fire a punt gun at this thing...this year. I think it's all or nothing for Jerry this late in his game.
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A shame for the die hard fans much younger than Jerry,, because that's a hail mary approach that is in reaction to desperation, which rarely if ever equates to success.
I hate being the doom and gloomer, but my eyes have studied this game for so long that I have a very hard time believing that just because Jerry gave JG his walking papers and allowed MM to come in and bring his hand picked staff, that everything else is just going to work itself out.
Red Ball and associates put this franchise in a tailspin with bad drafting, FA, and future contracts.
Expecting a coaching staff change, expecting MM to be the fix for 10 plus years of damage is foolish, and not fare at all to MM and this new staff.
 
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Idgit said:
I don’t get why people hold Dak to a standard they won’t hold other QBs to. An extension is a no-brainer.
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Does that standard include scoring 10 or less points in 3 games this season including the fiasco 3 FG game for the division game against the Eagles? It may be helpful to consider other peoples prospective other than the one your currently entertaining.

I've never been a big fan of group-think that includes looking at shiny stats that are meaningless when you consider who they were against and at what point of the game they were achieved. Elite Qb's that get paid Elite money don't let their teams go 8-8 in the worst division in football
 
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Personally I do not see how they risk signing Dak long term now. There is no way to properly evaluate him without seeing him play under the tutelage of a real head football coach. Common sense would dictate they have to use the tag on Dak to find out how good he truly is but anyone who would employ an unqualified coach for a decade is severely lacking in the common sense area. They should tag Dak so McCarthy can "try it before he buys it" however I see Jerry going all in on Dak and we as fans will be hoping it is not a huge mistake. A swing and a miss on Dak would truly suck and with the ability to tag him there is absolutely no need to take that chance..
 
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CouchCoach said:
No, before I even started the thread, cool, huh? Kinda goes with Daksters and Dakaters. Marcus, words are our friends and our best friends are the ones we make up. I haven't even gotten into Dakarious, Dakability, Daktatious, Daklicious or Dakilirium yet. Waiting to see if they sign him first, holding those in reserve. If they give him that big deal, some are having a Dakebration all off season.
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Some say that his desire to extort a mega-contract from the Cowboys makes him a Dakleptomaniac
 
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As a Dak supporter I would never wish this. But if Dak had some freakish season ending/offseason injury, I think it would put a ton into perspective.
 
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shabazz said:
Does that standard include scoring 10 or less points in 3 games this season including the fiasco 3 FG game for the division game against the Eagles? It may be helpful to consider other peoples prospective other than the one your currently entertaining.

I've never been a big fan of group-think that includes looking at shiny stats that are meaningless when you consider who they were against and at what point of the game they were achieved. Elite Qb's that get paid Elite money don't let their teams go 8-8 in the worst division in football
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It absolutely does. Since ALL QBs have games just like those. And, yes, elite QBs go 8-8 all the time. Where do ideas that the don't get started?
 
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Idgit said:
It absolutely does. Since ALL QBs have games just like those. And, yes, elite QBs go 8-8 all the time. Where do ideas that the don't get started?
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Dak has a big enough body of work that shows he isn’t good enough on his own to get this team to a championship level.

Other players elevate Dak and our focus needs to be on other players and not a guy who is just along for the ride like Dak.

It wasn’t that we went 8-8.. It’s that we lost a division we had no business losing to a whimpering Philadelphia Eagle team and couldn’t score a TD.
 
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