Pay Dak already. It is in the team's best interests

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In the NFL today, it is helpful to have a good QB but not required. You can also win if you have a decent QB and have other parts of your team that work well. Here's the thing though, if you are paying your decent QB like he is a Top 3 QB in this league, you don't have the money to keep those phases of the team stocked with talent because those guys also want money. Dak needs guys around him. Remember how things were going before Cooper got here? If all the money is tied up in Dak you can bye to most of our offensive line. We can continue to have a bottom tier defense. We can continue to not post a winning record. But hey, at least Dak will be happy.
 

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"Reports on Monday came out that Prescott, who has started every game the past three seasons but is just 1-2 in the playoffs, had turned down a $30 million a year deal and instead asked for $40 million a year, which would make him the highest-paid QB in the league." - usatoday.com

He wants 40 million .
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Nah, he getting Franchise Tagged. Hallelujah, holla back.
 

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Initially, I felt as though franchising Dak would be ok. Take a year to see if he's REALLY the way forward...

But the scope has completely changed since the hiring of McCarthy. We need Dak in camp on day one. This upcoming season has the potential to be a very special season. Don't half step. Sign the QB. For once, get in front of the 8 ball instead of behind it.

I, personally, wouldn't blame Dak for holding out if not signed. At the end of the day, the Dallas Cowboys don't give a crap about him. They give a crap about the franchise... Period.

Sign Dak ASAP.

I m not lobbying for a bank breaking contract. Dak has already made it clear he's willing to take something that's "fair for both sides"... So get it done!
both sides are in a tough position so its become a game of chicken. Dallas can tag him this year and next...Dak wants a 3 year contract, which essentially cost (per year) similarly to being tagged two years in a row. Dak wants to have the option for a huge pay day 3 years from now and he is banking on himself. Dallas doesn't have much other options. Is there a big market for QBs that would go after Dak? what are the teams that want and need a QB and willing to start investing? what are the College players coming out that teams may want to gamble for cost reasons. I don't think Dak has that many options and perhaps it will be a good move on cowboys part to just tag him and see how the new coaching staff, scheme fit with Dak.
 

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That's quite unfair Floaty. Dak's current contract is around $ 2 mil per year and he has never even griped about it. I certainly don't begrudge him making commercials. Plenty of quarterbacks make commercials as well. No one even really knows how Dak's most current contract offer is structured. If you have a copy of it, please share it. Personally, I think around $ 30 million is more than appropriate. I don't blame the Cowboys for franchise tagging him if they can't work things out with him and his agent.
Great post.
 

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In the NFL today, it is helpful to have a good QB but not required. You can also win if you have a decent QB and have other parts of your team that work well. Here's the thing though, if you are paying your decent QB like he is a Top 3 QB in this league, you don't have the money to keep those phases of the team stocked with talent because those guys also want money. Dak needs guys around him. Remember how things were going before Cooper got here? If all the money is tied up in Dak you can bye to most of our offensive line. We can continue to have a bottom tier defense. We can continue to not post a winning record. But hey, at least Dak will be happy.
Let's not get it twisted here people...

I'm going to keep it real. Zero agenda in what I'm about to say.

Brees, Brady, and Rivers have ALL needed guys around them in order to be successful. Every single one of them. We don't have to get into particulars unless you just want to... But that statement holds true for every single one of those "great options out there"....

Pay Dak so we can finally start a season in front of the 8 ball instead of behind it. Give him a contract that's fair for both sides. Like I said before... 28-32 mile per.. Somewhere in there. But sit the **** down at the table with him and get it done.
 

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Let's not get it twisted here people...

I'm going to keep it real. Zero agenda in what I'm about to say.

Brees, Brady, and Rivers have ALL needed guys around them in order to be successful. Every single one of them. We don't have to get into particulars unless you just want to... But that statement holds true for every single one of those "great options out there"....

Pay Dak so we can finally start a season in front of the 8 ball instead of behind it. Give him a contract that's fair for both sides. Like I said before... 28-32 mile per.. Somewhere in there. But sit the **** down at the table with him and get it done.
From all reports Dak is not going to accept that low of an offer and that's the issue. He wants more than he is worth. And you say the other QB's have needed guys around them in order to be successful. You must then ask though were the guys around them all that great on their own, or did the fact they had a great QB throwing them the ball make them look above their actual skill level? I've mentioned before how Romo made people like Crayton, Austin, Robinson, and even Dez Bryant look great but once they were without Romo they all looked below average. Dak isn't a bad QB, but he is not the type of player that elevates the play of his teammates. Cooper was, I believe, the #4 overall pick in the draft. The guy has talent. He is just playing how you would expect someone that high to play. Don't forget how Dak looked two years ago before we traded for Cooper. If anything, Cooper is elevating Dak.
 

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From all reports Dak is not going to accept that low of an offer and that's the issue. He wants more than he is worth. And you say the other QB's have needed guys around them in order to be successful. You must then ask though were the guys around them all that great on their own, or did the fact they had a great QB throwing them the ball make them look above their actual skill level? I've mentioned before how Romo made people like Crayton, Austin, Robinson, and even Dez Bryant look great but once they were without Romo they all looked below average. Dak isn't a bad QB, but he is not the type of player that elevates the play of his teammates. Cooper was, I believe, the #4 overall pick in the draft. The guy has talent. He is just playing how you would expect someone that high to play. Don't forget how Dak looked two years ago before we traded for Cooper. If anything, Cooper is elevating Dak.
That is all conjecture. Weapons elevate QBs. Specifically the ones I mentioned.
 

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That is all conjecture. Weapons elevate QBs. Specifically the ones I mentioned.
Nothing of what I said is conjecture. You think the QB's that you mentioned just got lucky and were fed a steady line of good WR's and TE's through out their career? I disagree. How many players that played with those QB's that you mentioned went to teams with inferior QB play and posted better numbers?
 

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Initially, I felt as though franchising Dak would be ok. Take a year to see if he's REALLY the way forward...

But the scope has completely changed since the hiring of McCarthy. We need Dak in camp on day one. This upcoming season has the potential to be a very special season. Don't half step. Sign the QB. For once, get in front of the 8 ball instead of behind it.

I, personally, wouldn't blame Dak for holding out if not signed. At the end of the day, the Dallas Cowboys don't give a crap about him. They give a crap about the franchise... Period.

Sign Dak ASAP.

I m not lobbying for a bank breaking contract. Dak has already made it clear he's willing to take something that's "fair for both sides"... So get it done!
so what you are saying is we should pay him any amount that he asks for to ensure he doesnt skip off season stuff and training camp?
 

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That is all conjecture. Weapons elevate QBs. Specifically the ones I mentioned.
nah.... its qb s that elevate weapons.

Anyone that plays Fantasy Football knows this, because as soon as a starting qb goes down, everyone that has a WR on said team knows they are screwed.

How did AB do when Big Ben went down a couple of years ago? He became as avg as avg can be. Travis Kelcie for some strange reason had a fairly significant increase in receptions and yards in the last 2 seasons. Tyreke Hill had a huge increase in his yards, TDs and receptions last season as well. I didnt count this year as he was injured and missed games. So you telling me those 2 elevated Mahomes?
 

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unless you're tellin me we get Brady or draft Tua...Im payin Dak.

bottom line...we got a good young QB who continues to improve.
at best he' s the best QB in our division...at worst he's a close #2.
4yrs in....big future in front of him.
we need to pay him.
this league is about finding a good young QB you can grow with and win with.
you have to eventually PAY THEM.
stop foolin around.
if your gonna move off Dak...you better sign Brady or draft Tua.
other wise...pay the man.
 

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Let's not get it twisted here people...

I'm going to keep it real. Zero agenda in what I'm about to say.

Brees, Brady, and Rivers have ALL needed guys around them in order to be successful. Every single one of them. We don't have to get into particulars unless you just want to... But that statement holds true for every single one of those "great options out there"....

Pay Dak so we can finally start a season in front of the 8 ball instead of behind it. Give him a contract that's fair for both sides. Like I said before... 28-32 mile per.. Somewhere in there. But sit the **** down at the table with him and get it done.

man the issue is pretty clear and simple here; Dak wants closer to 40 mil. and NOT the 28-32 you are proposing. There are reports he already turned down 30 mil. So with your plan they go to Dak and offer 28-32 and he says nope, which he essentially already has done. The problem is Dak wants more money than he is worth. The Front Office should get kudos for not caving to him. But the FO screwed up by staying on the fence once he took a stance of wanting to be overpaid. At that point, they should have caved or moved to Plan B at QB. By taking the slow road again, this FO will let the options dwindle as time and other teams move on with there decisions. Ain’t nobody on this planet gonna pay him close to 40 mil.
 

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Nope not yet ....

.. not until it's deadline closest to either mini camp .. or training camp.

That's when it will be at it's most critical to get Dak in here on time to get accustomed to McCarthy's offense
and one of Jerrys' quotes I'm told is his infamous " Deadlines make the deals " . its a game of chicken, but both sides stand to
lose.
If Dak doesn't get in here on time, he'll spend practically the entire season trying to absorb and play catch up to McCarthy offense.
while it affects the Cowboys team and chances to advance to a greater level and much could be placed at the feet of management for stalling until
the last minute when it could have been done much earlier.
 

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so what you are saying is we should pay him any amount that he asks for to ensure he doesnt skip off season stuff and training camp?
Read my subsequent posts where I outlined what he should be paid... It's not too difficult. Scroll up or go back one page.
 

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unless you're tellin me we get Brady or draft Tua...Im payin Dak.

bottom line...we got a good young QB who continues to improve.
at best he' s the best QB in our division...at worst he's a close #2.
4yrs in....big future in front of him.
we need to pay him.
this league is about finding a good young QB you can grow with and win with.
you have to eventually PAY THEM.
stop foolin around.
if your gonna move off Dak...you better sign Brady or draft Tua.
other wise...pay the man.
Amen brother.
 

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Nope not yet ....

.. not until it's deadline closest to either mini camp .. or training camp.

That's when it will be at it's most critical to get Dak in here on time to get accustomed to McCarthy's offense
and one of Jerrys' quotes I'm told is his infamous " Deadlines make the deals " . its a game of chicken, but both sides stand to
lose.
If Dak doesn't get in here on time, he'll spend practically the entire season trying to absorb and play catch up to McCarthy offense.
while it affects the Cowboys team and chances to advance to a greater level and much could be placed at the feet of management for stalling until
the last minute when it could have been done much earlier.
Like I said man, this team is notoroius for shooting itself in the collective feet.

Caving to Zeke when Pollard was clearly fine was a MAJOR mistake IMO.

Get in a room with Dak and work it out. Let's start this season in front of the 8 ball for the first time in years.
 

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Initially, I felt as though franchising Dak would be ok. Take a year to see if he's REALLY the way forward...

But the scope has completely changed since the hiring of McCarthy. We need Dak in camp on day one. This upcoming season has the potential to be a very special season. Don't half step. Sign the QB. For once, get in front of the 8 ball instead of behind it.

I, personally, wouldn't blame Dak for holding out if not signed. At the end of the day, the Dallas Cowboys don't give a crap about him. They give a crap about the franchise... Period.

Sign Dak ASAP.

I m not lobbying for a bank breaking contract. Dak has already made it clear he's willing to take something that's "fair for both sides"... So get it done!
I love how the Cowboys don't give a crap about Dak but Dak is all about what's fair for everybody. I bet that's the circumstances EXACTLY. Jerry Jones is known for being a cold-hearted miser when it comes to his players.

Seriously though, while I think it was stupid to trade for Cooper without a contract in place and horrible strategy to let things go this long with Dak, it takes two to tango and I'd bet some of the blame for this mess belongs at the feet of the players too.
 

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This is disappointing... Because I believe Dak is slotted somewhere between 28 & 32 mil per year. Apparently, they offered him 33 mil per back in September and he asked for more.... I haven't read into the guaranteed money details but the headline & initial read leave me incredibly disappointed in the way Dak is handling this. GET THIS DONE....

Yahoo Sports: Cowboys were close to $33M per season deal with Dak Prescott, then he asked for more.
https://sports.yahoo.com/cowboys-we...rescott-then-he-asked-for-more-154244231.html
 
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