Twitter: Thank God We Signed Zeke! - Rams to explore trading Gurley

John813

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I get it but don't get it at the same time.

The Rams wouldn't be willing to trade Gurley had he not had bum knees. He is the straw that stirs that drink. Saw the difference with Goff once Gurley wasn't the main focus.

Probably could of had a better shot at the SB a year ago if he was healthy.

Zeke on the other hand is durable and doesn't have bum knees.

Both paid their backs big money but only one team has durability issues
 

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Twodeep, as smart of a football guy as I know you are I just don't get how you can look past things like paying a lot for the RB or paying a lot for a slightly above mediocre QB and seeing how it has an effect on our chances of winning a Championship.

We like to make fun of Jerry and blame him for our lack of success but applaud moves like these and expect to win a championship.

That premises assumes all things are created equal. That all running backs have the same shelf life.

Adrian Peterson suggests that is not strictly the case.

In your comments above you make statements as if they are fact. They could be, but then again they may just be opinions. Your assessment of Dak possesses a bias. As does your comments on Zeke.

What is left out of the factors which influence their performances is the offensive line. The usual comment about the line for Dallas is it is one of the best in the business. Just like you, I have seen a Dallas line that was THE BEST in the business, and this line has not come close in three years.

That line was the 1992 and 1993 Dallas line before Erik Williams destroyed his knee in that drunk driving automobile accident.

This game is 45 moving parts run by a cadre of coaches facing off against a similar numbered team.

In the Staubach days, so many seem to have forgotten those teams were not a juggernaut, but routinely got behind and Roger was the reason they won.

The Jimmy J days, the defenses did make a stand at the most appropriate time, but they were more a bend don't break defense with smaller faster players and a front four that was almost two deep.....no pun intended.

While the argument is made that the game has changed, it is still football where my guy is tasked to knock the snot out of your guy. So much is made of bromides - defense wins championships - when winning changes from play to play, day to day, and the fact the ball is pointy on both ends and will take funny bounces.

This Super Bowl showed a Chief's team being run over by the 9ers rushing game. Granted the Chief's did make two stands which caused the ball to be punted or turned over.

Yet at the 6 minute and change mark, that very Chief's team was down 10 points. It was the offense and Mahomes which caused the game to turn.

Not taking anything away from the Chief's and their defense. But the 9ers had a better defense and the world knew it. So what happened? Why didn't the better defense win?

Because this game, while in progress, is organic and each aspect changes the outcome, only to be changed again on the next play.

Then, in the big scheme of things as far as the NFL goes, factor in the referees who clearly stole a championship run by the Saints on the most blatant pass interference I can recall. It was not a stellar Ram's defense as much as it was a ridiculously missed call which altered that game and season.

My objection is against assuming the trend of cutting RB's after a couple of years is the only way to do business. Or that Dak can never win it all because of his play behind a line which was not in the top ten in protection and run blocking at critical times.

This team would go further in reaching a Super Bowl by strengthening both lines than chasing a QB at the cost of adding years to the team's quest for a championship.

And the constant blubbering about what Zeke makes.

There is an expression which applies here.

It is what it is. Zeke is here and all the griping will not change that fact.
 

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Was their run game a problem?

Their run game and defense was how they got there.

If i'm San Francisco and I have to pick between Byron Jones or Zeke Elliot for that game against the Chiefs i'll take Byron Jones.
They stopped running too soon. Whether that was out of stupidity or because they didn't think their RBs could finish the game, IDK.

I agree Byron would be harder to replace effectively though.
 

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Pre fat extension he was already an inefficient player, who lacked motivation, didn't work hard in the offseason and was coddled in season.


Does anyone expect our deal for Zeke to turn out any better?:confused:

Zeke will continue to play at a high level while everyone washes away. Gurley was always overrated, seemed to only make a play when he had a hole to run through. He was always facing the fewest stacked boxes of all the "top" RBs. I knew Johnson wouldn't last. People were touting the 49ers RB next and I said people will have forgotten him in two seasons, same with many other players.
 

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Fans care about the salary cap and how we spend our resources towards it.

Some fans think it's stupid to pay a RB a bunch of money because production at that position is mostly decided by volume and RB's tend to get hurt.
Most touches in the nfl since he entered, how have the injuries impacted his production?
 

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Pre fat extension he was already an inefficient player, who lacked motivation, didn't work hard in the offseason and was coddled in season.


Does anyone expect our deal for Zeke to turn out any better?:confused:

Yep. Glad we signed the best all-around RB that stays healthy long term. Couldn’t t be happier.
 

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Most touches in the nfl since he entered, how have the injuries impacted his production?

Zeke has been a good player. He's one of the best.

I just don't think RB is where we should spend our limited resources.. The Cowboys do so thats all that matters.

I really don't want to argue about it because we're past that. We just need to figure out how to be the team that wins a Superbowl with a RB making a fortune.
 

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Derrick Henry says that Zeke’s contract is his floor for a new contract. Ha, good luck Titans!
 

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Zeke has been a good player. He's one of the best.

I just don't think RB is where we should spend our limited resources.. The Cowboys do so thats all that matters.

I really don't want to argue about it because we're past that. We just need to figure out how to be the team that wins a Superbowl with a RB making a fortune.
The cap keeps rising each season. They are paying him what they’re paying him but with the cap continuing to increase, the percent of the cap that he accounts for is gonna keep going down.
 

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Pre fat extension he was already an inefficient player, who lacked motivation, didn't work hard in the offseason and was coddled in season.


Does anyone expect our deal for Zeke to turn out any better?:confused:


wait 2 years
 

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The cap keeps rising each season. They are paying him what they’re paying him but with the cap continuing to increase, the percent of the cap that he accounts for is gonna keep going down.


I understand that but most Super Bowl teams don’t spend their resources there.
 

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Only you would campaign to keep Garrett, an inferior football guy and get rid of Zeke

Not only me. A lot of people understand iverdrafting and overpaying a RB with a lot of carries to the biggest contract ever for a RB was a mistake.
 

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I understand that but most Super Bowl teams don’t spend their resources there.
I can somewhat agree with that. But I feel like teams get stuck trying to copy successful teams like New England and more often than not fall short.(remember our 2 tight end sets with Escobar?) Gotta be trend setters not followers! :laugh:
 

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I understand that but most Super Bowl teams don’t spend their resources there.

Most don't, last one was Seattle where they gave roughly the same percentage to their RB compared to this year for the Cowboys.

2013 Lynch had a cap hit of 7mil when the cap was at 123 mil for a 5.6% cap hit.
2020 Zeke will have a cap hit of 10.9mil with a cap of 200 mil* for a 5.4% cap hit.


I can somewhat agree with that. But I feel like teams get stuck trying to copy successful teams like New England and more often than not fall short.(remember our 2 tight end sets with Escobar?) Gotta be trend setters not followers! :laugh:

They tried the 2 TE set before the Pats with Witten and Bennett starting in 2008.

NE drafted both Gronk and Aaron in 2010.
 

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David Johnson fine
Todd Gurley done

Zeke was a shell of his rookie self this year and the extension hasn’t even kicked in yet. What a horrible horrible deal.
 

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Cowboy fans - " why can't we have a team that is dominate like the 90's team."

Also Cowboy fans - " you don't need a superstar rb or wide receiver to win a Superbowl."

:)
 

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we should be good with Zeke through the life of his contract he monitors his body well (waves at bench Coach i need a breather send tony in)
 
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