The Cowboys should sign Keenum, and let Dak decide what to do next

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the intent of the OP was to be a troll. obviously emotions on Dak are high among cowboys fans, thus if you noticed he disappeared. his goal was to get some responses and add to the number of responses to his posts...he measures his success by how many pages of responses he has on his post....no other reason. this is not the first time the OP has done this, in fact I believe this is his 3rd posts on Keenum….he had the same thing on the ranch message board, claiming Moore was a HOF QB and should start over Romo and Tashard Choice is as good RB as emmitt smith.


Or an account by this website owner to get more clicks ? :muttley::muttley::muttley::muttley:
 

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great, but that wasn't the premise of the OP. the OP was that he would be an immediate upgrade over what we have.

it was not to backup dak. it was to show dak we don't need him. at least that's how i read it.

first 2 lines:
"The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak."

in that light, trollcity.

Yeah, I don't see that the thread said what you suggest. It says it would be an upgrade at QB. Doesn't say an upgrade over Dak necessarily. Unless you are suggesting that Cooper is better then Keenum. Doesn't matter. Have a good day.
 

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Yeah, I don't see that the thread said what you suggest. It says it would be an upgrade at QB. Doesn't say an upgrade over Dak necessarily. Unless you are suggesting that Cooper is better then Keenum. Doesn't matter. Have a good day.
here is the entire OP's comments.

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The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak.
Phillip Rivers is also available, and is an upgrade.
Ryan Tannehill is available.
The Cowboys don't have to be in this soap opera with a guy who went 8-8 but wants to be paid like he is a proven winner.
Signing a veteran like Keenum- who has been a winner- would likely change Dak's attitude towards a new contract.
But I believe that the Cowboys would make it to the NFC Championship game next year with a guy like Keenum under center.

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should sign keenum to a four year deal and he would be an immediate upgrade.....obviously upgrade over Dak. who else?

Rivers is an upgrade!!!

case Keenum would take us to NFCCG next year....obviously as a starter in his mind...what else..

and then he says in the rest of the post.....

Keenum is a winner!!!

and Dak is an 8-8 guy,


so obviously he is using team record as a measuring stick.... were in previous 3 years he had 3 straight winning season and a 13-3 campaign.... Keenum had had one winning season under his belt in 8 years in the NFL. that winning season he had the best defense in the league and a a top 10 rushing attack.... so obviously by trying to misinform and focus on a single season he is looking to start something

so if it looks like a duck. acts like a duck. sound like a duck. walks like a duck. its a duck!

no, this was a troll post by a very uninformed poster looking to start an argument on the board given emotions on Dak.
 

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here is the entire OP's comments.

"
The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak.
Phillip Rivers is also available, and is an upgrade.
Ryan Tannehill is available.
The Cowboys don't have to be in this soap opera with a guy who went 8-8 but wants to be paid like he is a proven winner.
Signing a veteran like Keenum- who has been a winner- would likely change Dak's attitude towards a new contract.
But I believe that the Cowboys would make it to the NFC Championship game next year with a guy like Keenum under center.

"

should sign keenum to a four year deal and he would be an immediate upgrade.....obviously upgrade over Dak. who else?

Rivers is an upgrade!!!

case Keenum would take us to NFCCG next year....obviously as a starter in his mind...what else..

Keenum is a winner!!!

and Dak is an 8-8 guy, so obviously he is using team record as a measuring stick.... were in previous 3 years he had 3 straight winning season and a 13-3 campaign.... Keenum had had one winning season under his belt in 8 years in the NFL. that winning season he had the best defense in the league and a a top 10 rushing attack.... so obviously by trying to misinform and focus on a single season he is looking to start something

no, this was a troll post by a very uninformed poster looking to start an argument on the board given emotions on Dak.

I'm not sure here, are you suggesting that I can't read because I certainly did read the posters initial post. I'm not going to argue here. Signing Keenum, or any other QB who can actually come in and play is an upgrade over what we currently have. There is no guarantee that Dak is signing this year. What is the option if does not? And for the record, 8-8 is the measuring stick. What else would it be?
 

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here is the entire OP's comments.

"
The Cowboys should get Case Keenum and give him a four year deal.
He would be an upgrade immediately, and at worst would solidify the Cowboys at quarterback if they do eventually sign Dak.
Phillip Rivers is also available, and is an upgrade.
Ryan Tannehill is available.
The Cowboys don't have to be in this soap opera with a guy who went 8-8 but wants to be paid like he is a proven winner.
Signing a veteran like Keenum- who has been a winner- would likely change Dak's attitude towards a new contract.
But I believe that the Cowboys would make it to the NFC Championship game next year with a guy like Keenum under center.

"

should sign keenum to a four year deal and he would be an immediate upgrade.....obviously upgrade over Dak. who else?

Rivers is an upgrade!!!

case Keenum would take us to NFCCG next year....obviously as a starter in his mind...what else..

and then he says in the rest of the post.....

Keenum is a winner!!!

and Dak is an 8-8 guy,


so obviously he is using team record as a measuring stick.... were in previous 3 years he had 3 straight winning season and a 13-3 campaign.... Keenum had had one winning season under his belt in 8 years in the NFL. that winning season he had the best defense in the league and a a top 10 rushing attack.... so obviously by trying to misinform and focus on a single season he is looking to start something

so if it looks like a duck. acts like a duck. sound like a duck. walks like a duck. its a duck!

no, this was a troll post by a very uninformed poster looking to start an argument on the board given emotions on Dak.
lol at someone trying to qualify Keenum’s “winning” season by saying he had help, when Dak is the most roster dependent QB in the entire NFL. The troll hilarity keeps on coming in this thread.
 

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I understand wanting to replace DP for x,y, and z reasons and that is totally fine and not opposed to.

Calling CK a winner is a stretch by both analytics and the eye test, which includes the most recent NFL season going 1-7 in 8 starts with the Commanders.

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CK as a starting QB has one winning stint and one .500 stint.

lol at someone trying to qualify Keenum’s “winning” season by saying he had help, when Dak is the most roster dependent QB in the entire NFL. The troll hilarity keeps on coming in this thread.
 

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lol at someone trying to qualify Keenum’s “winning” season by saying he had help, when Dak is the most roster dependent QB in the entire NFL. The troll hilarity keeps on coming in this thread.
The vast majority of QBs need a talented team, that's a pretty lame angle to take. Prescott is pretty good and so are the players around him. What's wrong with that?
 

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I'm not sure here, are you suggesting that I can't read because I certainly did read the posters initial post. I'm not going to argue here. Signing Keenum, or any other QB who can actually come in and play is an upgrade over what we currently have. There is no guarantee that Dak is signing this year. What is the option if does not? And for the record, 8-8 is the measuring stick. What else would it be?

I actually like the idea of signing Keenum to this team.

Not to buy into the nonsense that he's "better than Dak" but simply to have an experienced quarterback on the roster, no matter what else happens. It's smart and good business for several reasons, injury being one of them.

I don't think anyone would argue that Keenum is a better option for this team than Cooper Rush. And given that Keenum played for $3.5 million for Washington last year, I think he could be had for that much or less.
 

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I understand wanting to replace DP for x,y, and z reasons and that is totally fine and not opposed to.

Calling CK a winner is a stretch by both analytics and the eye test, which includes the most recent NFL season going 1-7 in 8 starts with the Commanders.

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CK as a starting QB has one winning stint and one .500 stint.
Sounds like he is 1 for 1 then in situations where he had a chance to be successful with good talent around him. Dak would be getting fitted for an XFL jersey if he was on those teams.
 

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lol at someone trying to qualify Keenum’s “winning” season by saying he had help, when Dak is the most roster dependent QB in the entire NFL. The troll hilarity keeps on coming in this thread.
You musta missed the super bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I actually like the idea of signing Keenum to this team.

Not to buy into the nonsense that he's "better than Dak" but simply to have an experienced quarterback on the roster, no matter what else happens. It's smart and good business for several reasons, injury being one of them.

I don't think anyone would argue that Keenum is a better option for this team than Cooper Rush. And given that Keenum played for $3.5 million for Washington last year, I think he could be had for that much or less.
Yeah, Keenum is one of the best backups in the NFL, and a low quality starter. I'd love to have him.
 

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the intent of the OP was to be a troll. obviously emotions on Dak are high among cowboys fans, thus if you noticed he disappeared. his goal was to get some responses and add to the number of responses to his posts...he measures his success by how many pages of responses he has on his post....no other reason. this is not the first time the OP has done this, in fact I believe this is his 3rd posts on Keenum….he had the same thing on the ranch message board, claiming Moore was a HOF QB and should start over Romo and Tashard Choice is as good RB as emmitt smith.

It's the Off Season. If we labeled every thread that did this, as troll bait, we would literally be tagging every thread. Doesn't mean it can't be a productive conversation though. I mean, if you confine your discussion to simply using fact and common sense, it can still be productive. The suggestion, on it's face is not terrible.

I mean, the Cowboys have done a terrible job of preparing the QB position in recent years. We were flat footed when Tony went down and just straight up lucky that Dak was able to step in. When Dak got himself injured last year, we elected to play a player that couldn't even complete simple short passes, rather then play the backup. I mean, there really is a point that can be discussed here IMO.
 

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The vast majority of QBs need a talented team, that's a pretty lame angle to take. Prescott is pretty good and so are the players around him. What's wrong with that?

But that's kinda what the poster is saying thou right? He's saying it's crazy to lable Keenum in such a way but ignore the fact that our own QB is basically in the same boat, to a certain extent. I mean, I get the point I believe the poster is trying to make.
 

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But that's kinda what the poster is saying thou right? He's saying it's crazy to lable Keenum in such a way but ignore the fact that our own QB is basically in the same boat, to a certain extent. I mean, I get the point I believe the poster is trying to make.
OK, but Keenum is not anywhere close to as good as Dak. Dak is a decent starter prolly in the 8-15 range. Keenum is a bottom 5 starter, better as a backup. Different levels of starters.
 

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But that's kinda what the poster is saying thou right? He's saying it's crazy to lable Keenum in such a way but ignore the fact that our own QB is basically in the same boat, to a certain extent. I mean, I get the point I believe the poster is trying to make.
Why haven't they responded?
 

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OK, but Keenum is not anywhere close to as good as Dak. Dak is a decent starter prolly in the 8-15 range. Keenum is a bottom 5 starter, better as a backup. Different levels of starters.
There is literally zero evidence to support this, especially since Keenum was easily a top 10 starter in 2017 and Dak was a bottom 5 starter for most of 2017. You’re just making it up.
 
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