The Cowboys should sign Keenum, and let Dak decide what to do next

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KJJ said:
Shooting everything you have to say down and watching you tap dance is entertaining. lol
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If you think you're accomplishing that, have at it. You're clearly delusional.

I gave you the answer to your foolish question but that would have quelled your clear lust for vengeance so you chose to ignore it and resume wasting my time with your next post.

Keep having your issue:

Case Keenum had a better statistical 2017, in fewer games, than Dak Prescott.

Cry about it kids!
 
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stasheroo said:
If you think you're accomplishing that, have at it. You're clearly delusional.

I gave you the answer to your foolish question but that would have quelled your clear lust for vengeance so you chose to ignore it and resume wasting my time with your next post.

Keep having your issue:

Case Keenum had a better statistical 2017, in fewer games, than Dak Prescott.

Cry about it kids!
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Keenum had a better statistical season in 2017 than Dak and that has you touting Keenum as the better QB. All you’ve been doing is talking Keenum up and tearing Dak down.
 
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KJJ said:
Keenum had a better statistical season in 2017 than Dak and that has you touting Keenum as the better QB. All you’ve been doing is talking Keenum up and tearing Dak down.
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That's where you're wrong. That's all in your head, and the perceived slight I've repeatedly told you about.

I stated the fact that he had a better statistical year in 2017. If you want to perceive it as more than that, it's in your head.
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
great, you posted the stats and based on those craappy numbers you still think he is a good QB?

what we have available is Dak, with the option to franchise him, negotations are on going. FA period hasn't fully begun....and it keeps sounding more and more you are hoping, wishing, wanting for the Dak negotations not to work out.....you have chosen to say, Dak is no longer and option so we have to look elsewhere, that elsewhere is Keenum and Keenum is better than Dak anyway.....

your line of argument is very childish.....5th gradish
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Why do you say those numbers were crappy. I mean, his stats early in the season, prior to the injury were pretty darn good, especially with the talent he had to work with. After the injury, he didn't throw for as many yards but his stats were still very good. I mean, what exactly do you think you are getting in FA? Do you think you are going to go out and get Brady or Brees? I don't think Brady is leaving but if he does, I think he's going to San Francisco, not Dallas. I don't think Brees is going anywhere. I guess I just need to understand what you think is so terrible about those stats.

Lets say you are able to sign Dak, which is not guaranteed. What are you going to do then? Who's your backup? I think you are trying to make me into a villain here. I never said Dak was no longer an option, you said that. I never said Keenum is better then Dak. I said he might be better given the possible situation we might face with Dak and we don't know if Dak will work in the WCO. You have made up in your mind all kinds of crazy stuff cause I guess you don't like what I'm saying. You can say you disagree, thats fine but don't lie on me. That's not cool.
 
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CowboysFaninHouston said:
there are different flavors of WCO and timing offenses....MC's attacks deep and more vertical routes.

we know he can play and he sucks at it given his years of performance....that much is clear....outside of 2017, where he had the #1 defense, #1 scoring defense and top 7 rushing attack and still produced at an average level and that was his best year, his other years were all the cause for the teams to look for another QB....including Mike Zimmer who witnessed his best year....you are telling me to trust you more than ZImmer?

what I have read is that there have been ongoing negotiations....if I am willing to sit and negotiate, I am interested...otherwise I just walk away!!! just google Dak contract negotiations and read through at your pleasure..its out in the internet land
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See ya around.
 

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stasheroo said:
Not one bit, not while you're looking foolish with your inaccurate dates and poor spelling. As the emoji's are, I'm laughing at you. :laugh:
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Well, drink some cold water, put an ice pack on your head...close your eyes. And tell yourself it's ok to be wrong.

You should be used to it

BTW I did ask for your address so I can mail you a football for dummies book...just message me directly. Don't be dumb and post your address on the thread
 

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Doomsday101 said:
So do I. Hell I will gladly take Joe Burrow right now. lol Case Keenum? He had 1 good year in Minn and that was not that great of a season. As normal people go overboard, they don't like Dak so they start throwing crap against the wall looking for it to stick. Keenum as a backup sure I could go that at 3 to 4 mill he was getting paid.
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It's not about case keenum...he just is anti Dak...so he chose keenum foolishly not realizing how stupid that is...but I like the idea of keenum as a back up...so.it would be an upgrade over rush
 
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Signing Case Keenum would give the Cowboys stability at quarterback.
It would also give them leverage.
It would also ensure that they don't get hemmed into a deal that would financially cripple the team if Dak doesn't pan out.
The kid is still unproven, and while that may not be a popular opinion, there is more evidence to suggest he won't be the guy than there is to support that he will.
 
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stasheroo said:
That's where you're wrong. That's all in your head, and the perceived slight I've repeatedly told you about.

I stated the fact that he had a better statistical year in 2017. If you want to perceive it as more than that, it's in your head.
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It's not in my head it's the theme you've created throughout our entire discussion. It's the fact that you've refused to give me a yes or no answer if you think Keenum would be a better option than Dak. You not wanting to answer the question provides the answer. The first comment I made in this thread was that Keenum would be a better option at backup and if anyone thinks he would be a better option than Dak they must be smoking something. Only you and one other fan has taken exception to my criticism of Keenum as a starting QB. You've done nothing but defend Keenum. I mentioned that he helped lead the Commanders to the second overall pick with his 1-7 start to the 2019 season and you defended him by putting the blame on the bad team he played for. If Dak went 1-7 to start last season you would have pointed the entire finger of blame at him. A team doesn't go 1-7 if their QB isn't a big part of the problem.

In your defense of Keenum you pointed to his 13-3 record with the Vikings. He didn't lead them to that record their #1 defense and #1 scoring defense led them to that record, which is why the Vikings replaced him with Cousins. You continued propping Keenum while talking down Dak by pointing out that Keenum had only 7 INT's compared to Dak's 13 INT's in 2017. Keenum's 2017 season has you infatuated with him. lol The guy was a BUS DRIVER that season and has been a BUS DRIVER his entire career. Just look at his numbers! He only lasted one season in Denver tossing a measly 18 TD's compared to 15 INT's. He can only function efficiently on a solid team where he's able to manage games. Unless a team has a great defense and solid offensive players around Keenum they'll have no chance with him. Keenum's W/L record the past two seasons is 6-17 so anyone who thinks we have a better chance of rebounding from an 8-8 season with him over Dak is smoking something!
 
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If Dak is franchise tagged he’ll make just under $28M in 2020. If he’s franchised again he’ll make around $32M which means he’ll pocket $60M before hitting free agency. I don’t see that scenario happening.
 

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KJJ said:
It's not in my head it's the theme you've created throughout our entire discussion. It's the fact that you've refused to give me a yes or no answer if you think Keenum would be a better option than Dak. You not wanting to answer the question provides the answer. The first comment I made in this thread was that Keenum would be a better option at backup and if anyone thinks he would be a better option than Dak they must be smoking something. Only you and one other fan has taken exception to my criticism of Keenum as a starting QB. You've done nothing but defend Keenum. I mentioned that he helped lead the Commanders to the second overall pick with his 1-7 start to the 2019 season and you defended him by putting the blame on the bad team he played for. If Dak went 1-7 to start last season you would have pointed the entire finger of blame at him. A team doesn't go 1-7 if their QB isn't a big part of the problem.

In your defense of Keenum you pointed to his 13-3 record with the Vikings. He didn't lead them to that record their #1 defense and #1 scoring defense led them to that record, which is why the Vikings replaced him with Cousins. You continued propping Keenum while talking down Dak by pointing out that Keenum had only 7 INT's compared to Dak's 13 INT's in 2017. Keenum's 2017 season has you infatuated with him. lol The guy was a BUS DRIVER that season and has been a BUS DRIVER his entire career. Just look at his numbers! He only lasted one season in Denver tossing a measly 18 TD's compared to 15 INT's. He can only function efficiently on a solid team where he's able to manage games. Unless a team has a great defense and solid offensive players around Keenum they'll have no chance with him. Keenum's W/L record the past two seasons is 6-17 so anyone who thinks we have a better chance of rebounding from an 8-8 season with him over Dak is smoking something!
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He was like Vince Young for the Titans. They won some games w/ him, even made the playoffs one year, as he dinked and dunked.
 

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KJJ said:
If Dak is franchise tagged he’ll make just under $28M in 2020. If he’s franchised again he’ll make around $32M which means he’ll pocket $60M and hit free agency. I don’t see that scenario happening.
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I think it might be possible if he doesn't improve.
 
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kskboys said:
I think it might be possible if he doesn't improve.
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It’s not possible because he’s gotten better every year and the Cowboys aren’t going to make the same mistake the Commanders did with Kirk Cousins. Washington has gone down the drain since they moved on from him. They ended up having to burn a first round pick on Haskins who I don’t think will end up being the answer for them. Dak is better than Cousins, he’s not going anywhere! Fans can continue starting these threads touting castoffs and backups who would be cheaper options, as if that’s the recipe for winning a championship. I’ve said it many times this has to be the dumbest fanbase in all of sports.
 

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KJJ said:
If Dak is franchise tagged he’ll make just under $28M in 2020. If he’s franchised again he’ll make around $32M which means he’ll pocket $60M before hitting free agency. I don’t see that scenario happening.
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Bingo.
Dak isn't going anywhere. Either the Cowboys sign him to a long-term deal, or he plays for the guaranteed $27 million franchise tag. That simple.
 
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