10/17/14 Cowboys Tweets - Toomer Cut/L. Edwards re-signed

DBOY3141

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*** why didnt they just cut toomer to sign the OT lmao. No complains from me toomer was the reason why the punt was blocked. Can we get dixon back for spillman please smh

If Dixon knew how to read a watch, he would still be a Cowboy.
 

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I wonder if Hamilton can do Spillman's role on special teams.

Randle is doing Spillman's job AND his own. But yeah, need another guy to step up, or least stop with all the holding penalties (and fumbles).
 

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Yes, there's probably more to the story. It could be that Edwards agent told them another team was going to sign Edwards.

It seems they're going to have to decide soon if they want to keep Edwards or Jack Crawford when D-Law returns.

Have to live week to week in the NFL but my thoughts were similar. They are bringing him back to say good bye to him in 2 weeks for Lawrence. Also seems bit odd that they would waive LB with Carter still out and the d line getting people back.
 

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Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota 3m3 minutes ago
Dez Bryant: We need AT&T Stadium to be all Cowboys fans Sunday, 'and we need them to be as loud as possible' http://share.d-news.co/Ofyj7WD

“We do need more Cowboys fans there,” Bryant said. “That’s exactly what we need. and we need them to be a little bit louder whenever [New York’s] defense is on the field. I’m not hearing them, I need to hear them some more.

“We need all Cowboys fans and we need them to be as loud as possible to affect the opponent.”
 

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Edwards would be wise to live in those weekly furnished rentals at this juncture.
 

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Jon Machota ‏@jonmachota 3m3 minutes ago
Dez Bryant: We need AT&T Stadium to be all Cowboys fans Sunday, 'and we need them to be as loud as possible' http://share.d-news.co/Ofyj7WD

“We do need more Cowboys fans there,” Bryant said. “That’s exactly what we need. and we need them to be a little bit louder whenever [New York’s] defense is on the field. I’m not hearing them, I need to hear them some more.

“We need all Cowboys fans and we need them to be as loud as possible to affect the opponent.”

:facepalm:

Loud when the Giants D is on the field? Seriously? Who edits this stuff?
 

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Surprising to me about Toomer. I kept reading good things about him and expected him to start showing up. I guess poor special teams play did him in.

Where have you read good things about him since he's been in Dallas? Other than him being a former Seahawk and good on ST, he never played on defense. Everything I've read on him was that he didn't know the defense. This is not to suggest he couldn't be a good player down the road, but he hasn't shown it.
 

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Where have you read good things about him since he's been in Dallas? Other than him being a former Seahawk and good on ST, he never played on defense. Everything I've read on him was that he didn't know the defense. This is not to suggest he couldn't be a good player down the road, but he hasn't shown it.

I should have clarified. They were reports on him from when he was with the Seahawks. I haven't much of any reports on him at all after he joined the Cowboys.
 

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Thanks for the info on the Seahawks defense. Cya!

Seriously, for whatever reason, the guy just didn't know enough to be able to help a LB Corps that had injury after injury. He physically has the ability, so it must have been mental reasons that he couldn't see the field?

Not sure.
 

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Bryan Broaddus ‏@BryanBroaddus 2m2 minutes ago
@Timbo8288: @BryanBroaddus isn't toomer the guy you were high on?” Scouts lose at times.

There must be something I don't understand about the coach v. scout relationship, because it seems really weird to me that scouts are involved in the discussions at all once the player is on the roster. You'd think from there it's basically a coaching decision, and all the scouts ought to be doing is grading the players at each position for pro scouting purposes in case there's an opportunity to upgrade further. It seems odd that they'd have any say whatsoever on the personnel configuration that the coaches want for any given week.
 

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There must be something I don't understand about the coach v. scout relationship, because it seems really weird to me that scouts are involved in the discussions at all once the player is on the roster. You'd think from there it's basically a coaching decision, and all the scouts ought to be doing is grading the players at each position for pro scouting purposes in case there's an opportunity to upgrade further. It seems odd that they'd have any say whatsoever on the personnel configuration that the coaches want for any given week.

With the Cowboys I don't think the scouts are involved in setting the 46 man game-day roster but can override coaches on some 53 man roster decisions.

Toomer was active last week due to injuries. Carter and Cam Lawrence were both out which caused them to need another LB on the 46.

When Broaddus says that sometimes scout lose, he's referring to the 53, not the 46. Now obviously there can be some cross-over with the 46 and 53 issues due to injuries. With DE Jack Crawford injured, they must have decided that they would need DE Edwards for the 46 despite the fact that he only played 4 snaps last week.

Good GMs often override coaches on personnel decisions to some extent. Coaches tend to be short term thinkers and don't always give a lot of consideration to the future. Obviously, Toomer was a guy that the scouts thought could develop in the future but the coaches wanted the extra DE (Edwards) for this weeks game.
 
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