10 Greatest QB's of All-Time

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FloridaRob;1788535 said:
1-Brett Favre. The ultimate Warrior for a QB that has NEVER missed game. Criticizing the interceptions is like criticizing Babe Ruth for striking out. He did more with less talent than any QB in the game.

2-Montana-not the most physically gifted but the smartest QB to ever play.

3-Elway-another Warrior and had a ton of physical talent. Would have thrown for more TDs if the offense would have been different.

4-Marino-The best pure passer ever.

5-Unitas-defined the position of QB.

6-Bart Starr-next to JOe Montana the next smartest QB and a true field general.

7-Staubach-how did he ever have to share the position with Craig Morton.

8-Otto Graham-

9-10 tie between Aikman, Bradshaw and Tarkenton.....

Good to see you putting Otto Graham in there and I think Sammy Baugh deserves some consideration, too.

About Staubach's passing stats, there's a lot more to QB-ing than passing. Leadership, the ability to inspire and late game comeback wins are all part of the package. Skill level of the rest of the team makes a difference, too. As far as the old timers go, you can only judge their performances by the results they got in their time. They didn't have 'roids, dietary supplements or the things modern players have - to them a dietary supplement was a shot of whiskey.

This is all speculation anyway but it's fun to go back and look at them all. Bradshaw and Tarkington were probably the last QBs to call all their own plays and that used to be a measure but these days, almost none of them call their own plays, though Peyton Manning calls a lot of his.

It's pretty hard to draw up an accurate list based on only one statistic, I think we need to look at the entire picture or as much of it is still available.
 

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My top 10 of all time:

1. Unitas - When you take into consideration all the factors, winning, longevity, toughness, calling his own plays, clutch plays to win games, and leadership.

2. Montana - Four Super Bowl wins when you were the main cog and the clutch performances all add up to #2 on my list.

3. Aikman - In my opinion the most underrated hall of famer of all time. Never gets the credit he deserves for what the Cowboys of the 90's accomplished. Leadership, unselfishness, amazing accuracy in a middle deep passing offense (not the dink and dunk west coast), and doing what it takes for your team to win 3 SB's, lands him at #3.

4. Staubach - Had it all, leadership, passing ability, scrambling ability, clutch city, and could not stand to lose. All that winning, 2 SB championships. My only criticism of Roger is that he wasn't as consistent as some others. Some of those comebacks were necessary because he would play pretty average for most of those games then needed the come back at the end.

5. Graham - Never saw him play but have seen films and know that he was the #1 guy when it came to championships.

6. Elway - Multiple Super Bowl appearances, 2 SB wins, many clutch comebacks, amazing athletic ability, leadership, toughness, and a HUGE arm.

7. Marino - Could throw the football, without question. Such a quick release with a big arm to go with it. He just didn't win enough for my taste and I think those teams were constructed the way they were because that is the way Dan wanted it. He would rather be THE MAN and have his records than have a balanced offense and win more games.

8. Favre - Too many picks, too many picks at CRUCIAL times. Threw away more BIG GAMES than he won. Tough, competitive, durable, but also theatrical, loves the camera, loves the butt slapping, and in my book that lands him outside the top 5.

9. Tarkenton - Probably underrated for what he accomplished. Never won a championship, but won a lot of games, and was a guy, when he was in his prime, that drove you crazy.

10. Bradshaw - You cannot totally discount what Bradshaw did. He may have been average for most regular seasons, but in the biggest games, when it counted most, he played some of his best football.
 

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FloridaRob;1788535 said:
1-Brett Favre. The ultimate Warrior for a QB that has NEVER missed game. Criticizing the interceptions is like criticizing Babe Ruth for striking out. He did more with less talent than any QB in the game.

2-Montana-not the most physically gifted but the smartest QB to ever play.

3-Elway-another Warrior and had a ton of physical talent. Would have thrown for more TDs if the offense would have been different.

4-Marino-The best pure passer ever.

5-Unitas-defined the position of QB.

6-Bart Starr-next to JOe Montana the next smartest QB and a true field general.

7-Staubach-how did he ever have to share the position with Craig Morton.

8-Otto Graham-

9-10 tie between Aikman, Bradshaw and Tarkenton.....


Thats rich :rolleyes:
Favre is #1?
and Staubach doesnt even make your list? yet you put Tarkenton and Bradshaw...hmmm...

Argueably the greatest of all time would be on of the following.... Montana or Brady.... THATS IT

Yeah... throwing INT's is like Ruth striking out... yeah ok... LMAO

Striking out doesnt give opposing team POINTS.

I think Favre is something.... he is special.... but damn.... disregard he NFL ALL TIME record for INT's..... like Borat he say....thats very nice.



rcaldw;1790614 said:
8. Favre - Too many picks, too many picks at CRUCIAL times. Threw away more BIG GAMES than he won. Tough, competitive, durable, but also theatrical, loves the camera, loves the butt slapping, and in my book that lands him outside the top 5.

10. Bradshaw - You cannot totally discount what Bradshaw did. He may have been average for most regular seasons, but in the biggest games, when it counted most, he played some of his best football.


Yeah... people forget that Favre threw INT's when he had the lead.... instead of taking safe plays or using running game... he was chucking it...


Bradshaw once was asked "what was your WB rating" - he answered "Four Super Bowls Victories" - PRICELESS.... LOL
 

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YoMick;1790717 said:
Thats rich :rolleyes:
Favre is #1?
and Staubach doesnt even make your list? yet you put Tarkenton and Bradshaw...hmmm...

Argueably the greatest of all time would be on of the following.... Montana or Brady.... THATS IT

Yeah... throwing INT's is like Ruth striking out... yeah ok... LMAO

Striking out doesnt give opposing team POINTS.

I think Favre is something.... he is special.... but damn.... disregard he NFL ALL TIME record for INT's..... like Borat he say....thats very nice.






Yeah... people forget that Favre threw INT's when he had the lead.... instead of taking safe plays or using running game... he was chucking it...


Bradshaw once was asked "what was your WB rating" - he answered "Four Super Bowls Victories" - PRICELESS.... LOL

Yea, But Romo is in the top 5 in YOUr book with Aikman no less. I love how you guys put Favre down out of the top 5 but put Romo in there with greatness 17 games into his career. Sounds like the Rams fans when Warner had his 2 yrs of greatness. Where is he now??? Those two years Warner was as good as any QB to ever play the game but he wasn't long for it. When Romo gets 100 games into his career without missing any signficant time, get back with me then. 17 games does not make a great QB. Anybody remember a QB from Cincinnatti in the early 70s that was absolutely outstanding but then got hurt (shoulder??) and then was never heard from again. I can't remember his name but that just goes to show greatness is over a period of years, not games....
 

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1.Montana
2.Unitas
3.Elway
4.Marino
5.Manning
6.Staubach
7.Graham
8.Favre
9.Brady
10.Aikman
10a.Starr

Bradshaw has rings, but anyone with a career completion percentage of 51% and who threw as many picks as he did td's cannot be a top ten qb in my opinion.
 

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FloridaRob;1791978 said:
Yea, But Romo is in the top 5 in YOUr book with Aikman no less. I love how you guys put Favre down out of the top 5 but put Romo in there with greatness 17 games into his career. Sounds like the Rams fans when Warner had his 2 yrs of greatness. Where is he now??? Those two years Warner was as good as any QB to ever play the game but he wasn't long for it. When Romo gets 100 games into his career without missing any signficant time, get back with me then. 17 games does not make a great QB. Anybody remember a QB from Cincinnatti in the early 70s that was absolutely outstanding but then got hurt (shoulder??) and then was never heard from again. I can't remember his name but that just goes to show greatness is over a period of years, not games....


I will admit putting Romo in at #5 is premature... but you putting Favre in at #1 is ridiculous.
 

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dbair1967;1789892 said:
stupidity alert

David

Absolutely Agree :bow:
This is what happens when you try to make an observation on a player's career based on stats instead of first hand knowledge. Speaking for those "oldies" in here who actually saw Staubach play, any top ten list of all-time QBs that doesn't include Roger is no better than a piece of toilet tissue. ;)
 

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Future;1788514 said:
1. Staubach
2. Aikman
3. Romo
4. Danny White
5. Don Meredith
6. Quincy Carter
7. Steve Buerlein
8. Vinny Testaverde
9. Clint Stoerner
10. Jason Garrett

:laugh2: :starspin:

Sorry Dude. I had to correct an error in your list:

3. Danny White
4. Don Meredith
5. Craig Morton
6. Tony Romo
7. Steve Buerlien (Romo will surpass Steve's play-off win total this season)

Untill Tony wins a few play-off games (and hopefully a couple of SBs) he must be listed at #6. Check back with me in a couple of years and we may be able to edit this list again.:starspin
 

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CPonder14;1787915 said:
Just for fun since the Boys are not playing today.

1 - Johnny Unitas
2 - Joe Montana
3 - John Elway
4 - Otto Graham
5 - Roger Staubach
6 - Dan Marino
7 - Tom Brady(with a chance to get into the top 5 after he retires)
8 - Brett Favre
9 - Peyton Manning(with a chance to move up a couple spots after he retires)
10 - Steve Young

I'm a huge quarterback fan, and love that position, so i put some thought into the list.

Who are your 10?

The following are QBs I actually saw play, not just read their stats.

1. Fran Tarkenton - absolutely the most entertaining QB to watch as long as he wasn't playing Dallas.
2. Dan Marino - what an arm! Sad he was never a SB champion.
3. Joe Montana - still hate him, but I must give him his props.
4. Terry Bradshaw - threw the sweetest deep pass I have ever seen.
5. Roger Staubach - "America's Quarterback" was simple awesome!
6. Peyton Manning - The best playing the game today - bar none.
7. Bret Farve - unbelievable will to win - second only to Staubach.
8. Troy Aikman - Would have loved to see the numbers he might have put up in a pass-oriented offense.
9. John Elway - Staubach was his boyhood idol. Did a pretty good imitation of him too.
10. Dan Fouts - Imagine how he might be remebered today if the Chargers Defense had been better when he played.

I was too little to remember seeing Johnny Unitas play. From the NFL Films footage, he looked to be a very special player. :D

Honorable mention: Tom Brady, Steve Young, Jim Plunkett, and Ken Stabler.
 

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YoMick;1792249 said:
I will admit putting Romo in at #5 is premature... but you putting Favre in at #1 is ridiculous.

Ya think it might be a little premature on Romo? Favre is considered by many to be the top QB of all time. NOT just Packer fans. So be sure and send all teh media people and NFL players a memo that their opinion sucks. JUst this week I heard three people say Favre is the best ever. Mariucci, Kitna, and Bradshaw. They are not Cowboy or Packer fans. And while you are at it, ask them how high they put Aikman and Romo in the that list. How many HOF players has Favre played with on offense. Here is a hint. None. What about Aikman, What about Montana, what about Young??? Again he has done more with less than any QB in history. Even your #5 rated Romo is playing with a HOF caliber WR in TO. FAvre never had a HOF running back, Offensive Linemen, TightEnd or WR.

In Marinos last year, same age as FAvre, he threw 12 TDs. FAvre at 38 is going to throw over 30. AT 38. How many QBs have done that. Here is a hint again. NONE!!! And again, WITH NO RUNNING BACK. Elway went to the Super Bowl at 38 not because of his arm but because of Terrel Davis. All the QB on your list missed so much time because of injury. FAvre has never missed a game and never lost his job because of performance. He will go down as one of the top three QBs of all time. I think he is no 1. But to put Aikman and Romo ahead of him. Puleeze. Take a prozac.

Criticize my selection of Favre at NO 1 as ridiculous all you want, but at least I have company with non Packer fans. Something you will never find in your coronation of Aikman and Romo as top five qB alltime. Homer indeed.
 

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FloridaRob;1792331 said:
Ya think it might be a little premature on Romo? Favre is considered by many to be the top QB of all time. NOT just Packer fans. So be sure and send all teh media people and NFL players a memo that their opinion sucks. JUst this week I heard three people say Favre is the best ever. Mariucci, Kitna, and Bradshaw. They are not Cowboy or Packer fans. And while you are at it, ask them how high they put Aikman and Romo in the that list. How many HOF players has Favre played with on offense. Here is a hint. None. What about Aikman, What about Montana, what about Young??? Again he has done more with less than any QB in history. Even your #5 rated Romo is playing with a HOF caliber WR in TO. FAvre never had a HOF running back, Offensive Linemen, TightEnd or WR.

In Marinos last year, same age as FAvre, he threw 12 TDs. FAvre at 38 is going to throw over 30. AT 38. How many QBs have done that. Here is a hint again. NONE!!! And again, WITH NO RUNNING BACK. Elway went to the Super Bowl at 38 not because of his arm but because of Terrel Davis. All the QB on your list missed so much time because of injury. FAvre has never missed a game and never lost his job because of performance. He will go down as one of the top three QBs of all time. I think he is no 1. But to put Aikman and Romo ahead of him. Puleeze. Take a prozac.

Criticize my selection of Favre at NO 1 as ridiculous all you want, but at least I have company with non Packer fans. Something you will never find in your coronation of Aikman and Romo as top five qB alltime. Homer indeed.

The man's right. Favre might not be at the top of my list, but he's definitely very near it. Way ahead of Aikman and, yes, even ahead of Tony Romo.

Although I will say, Florida, your point about the talent that surrounded Favre for most of his career falls flat. He's played with very good players his entire career, many of whom would have had more serious HoF consideration if the collective team had been stronger and won a few more Superbowls. In any event, a QB doesn't need HoF'ers around him to be one of the very best, as Favre has shown in spades.
 

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Idgit;1792354 said:
The man's right. Favre might not be at the top of my list, but he's definitely very near it. Way ahead of Aikman and, yes, even ahead of Tony Romo.

Although I will say, Florida, your point about the talent that surrounded Favre for most of his career falls flat. He's played with very good players his entire career, many of whom would have had more serious HoF consideration if the collective team had been stronger and won a few more Superbowls. In any event, a QB doesn't need HoF'ers around him to be one of the very best, as Favre has shown in spades.

Agreed but my point was that NONE of the players he played with were HOF players. Sharpe might have been but got hurt early in his career.

At the very least, when the top QBs of all time are talked about, Favre is defintely in the conversation and debated. Nobody debates Staubach, Aikman and surely not Romo except Cowboy Fans....
 

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I have not heard anyone I respect mention Favre even in the top 10 of all time. He might just sneak in there but only a GB fanatic HOMER can claim he is even top 5, let alone top one.
To Me my top 4 need no defense.
 

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FloridaRob;1791978 said:
I love how you guys put Favre down out of the top 5 but put Romo in there with greatness 17 games into his career.
Romo has had 21 starts, not 17.
 

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FloridaRob;1792331 said:
JUst this week I heard three people say Favre is the best ever. Mariucci, Kitna, and Bradshaw.

Big deal. Flavor of the week comment.... next week they will same the same thing about Manning or someone else... LMAO

I see that you get "sucked" by the media :laugh2:



FloridaRob;1792331 said:
Criticize my selection of Favre at NO 1 as ridiculous all you want, but at least I have company with non Packer fans. Something you will never find in your coronation of Aikman and Romo as top five qB alltime. Homer indeed.

Criticize I will. As will others. The guy has made some crucial game changing mistakes. THAT is my knock on him. He should have atleast 2 SB wins and he doesnt. Its on him.


Aikman - well Aikman... all he did was make those good decisions (unlike Favre) which netted him 2 more SB wins than Favre... BEATING Favre to get there atleast ONCE ;) .... actually more than once... once in NFC title game and then how many times in playoffs leading up to NFC title game.


Favre had no talent around him, huh? Yeah ok. He threw the ball and he caught it too :rolleyes: You are riding his consecutive played games streak too much... just like Madden does


Dont be upset when he makes those bad decisions again on thursday leading to a loss. He himself is already talking about meeting us again in playoffs.... he knows he is up against IT..... IT being US.
 

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FloridaRob;1788535 said:
1-Brett Favre. The ultimate Warrior for a QB that has NEVER missed game......

1-Brett Favre. The ultimate Warrior for a QB that has NEVER missed game. Criticizing the interceptions is like criticizing Babe Ruth for striking out. He did more with less talent than any QB in the game. Romo is way better than Favre. And Babe Ruth never struck out... dumb analogy.

2-Montana-not the most physically gifted but the smartest QB to ever play. - Romo is a lot smarter than Montana. Take Romo's Wonderlick, multiply it by two and then divide by 4... I bet that's half as good as Joe's score. Wait, What?

3-Elway-another Warrior and had a ton of physical talent. Would have thrown for more TDs if the offense would have been different. Romo is much better. Not nearly as pigeon toed and doesn't drink Coors.

4-Marino-The best pure passer ever. - Yeah, after Romo.

5-Unitas-defined the position of QB. - Give Romo black shoes and a lucky horseshoe too and he'd do just as well.

6-Bart Starr-next to JOe Montana the next smartest QB and a true field general. - I'm sick of these Green Bay QB's! Tony Romo is from Wisconsin too! Much Better.

7-Staubach-how did he ever have to share the position with Craig Morton. -Close... but Romo is better and younger.

8-Otto Graham- Are you kidding? Romo has just as many "O's" in his last name as Otto has in his first.

9-10 tie between Aikman, Bradshaw and Tarkenton..... No way. Romo is better than all three put together. Yeah, Aikman won 3 super bowl and Bradshaw won four... but Fran lost 4 so that negates Bradshaw's. Like usual, the only SB's that count are won by a Cowboy. Romo is better than him too
 

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Nice work, **.

Romo trumps all. Your post makes that clear. Only Aikman and Staubach are even in the same stratosphere.

No way in hell the #1 QB of all-time could be someone who suffers from "sensitive teeth".
 

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superpunk;1792843 said:
Nice work, **.

Romo trumps all. Your post makes that clear. Only Aikman and Staubach are even in the same stratosphere.

No way in hell the #1 QB of all-time could be someone who suffers from "sensitive teeth".


Sensative teeth... lol.

Yep, only Aikman and Roger even come close to Tony.

Then Brady, Danny White, Favre, Pelluer, Bart Starr, Manning (not Eli), and then Hogeboom.

Anyone saying otherwise is just being a homer... most likely a big, fat, lying Green Bay homer, who has pale skin from staying indoors through the long winter. Probably balding, too.
 

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AsthmaField;1792839 said:
1-Brett Favre. The ultimate Warrior for a QB that has NEVER missed game. Criticizing the interceptions is like criticizing Babe Ruth for striking out. He did more with less talent than any QB in the game. Romo is way better than Favre. And Babe Ruth never struck out... dumb analogy.

2-Montana-not the most physically gifted but the smartest QB to ever play. - Romo is a lot smarter than Montana. Take Romo's Wonderlick, multiply it by two and then divide by 4... I bet that's half as good as Joe's score. Wait, What?

3-Elway-another Warrior and had a ton of physical talent. Would have thrown for more TDs if the offense would have been different. Romo is much better. Not nearly as pigeon toed and doesn't drink Coors.

4-Marino-The best pure passer ever. - Yeah, after Romo.

5-Unitas-defined the position of QB. - Give Romo black shoes and a lucky horseshoe too and he'd do just as well.

6-Bart Starr-next to JOe Montana the next smartest QB and a true field general. - I'm sick of these Green Bay QB's! Tony Romo is from Wisconsin too! Much Better.

7-Staubach-how did he ever have to share the position with Craig Morton. -Close... but Romo is better and younger.

8-Otto Graham- Are you kidding? Romo has just as many "O's" in his last name as Otto has in his first.

9-10 tie between Aikman, Bradshaw and Tarkenton..... No way. Romo is better than all three put together. Yeah, Aikman won 3 super bowl and Bradshaw won four... but Fran lost 4 so that negates Bradshaw's. Like usual, the only SB's that count are won by a Cowboy. Romo is better than him too


Now... we can close the thread. :bow:
 

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burmafrd;1792781 said:
I have not heard anyone I respect mention Favre even in the top 10 of all time. He might just sneak in there but only a GB fanatic HOMER can claim he is even top 5, let alone top one.
To Me my top 4 need no defense.

from the delusional Cowboy fan that puts Staubach at no 2. Puleeze Mr Hypocrite. Again for the mentally challenged here, when the debate about the great QBs of all time are discussed, Favres name is discussed and debated. Bury your head in the sand all you want and it ignore it. but it doesn;t change the fact he is debated and rightfully so. And again, when that discussion is made NOBODY talks about Aikman, Staubach and surely not Romo except by you.

Your top 4 needs no defense????? You are right. My dad taught me at a young age that you can't argue with Stupid People. Staubach at no 2!!!NObody but a delusional Cowboy Fanatic Homer would put him there. NOBODY!!!!!
 
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