Johannes44
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Trystan Hill and Taco Charlton were Rod's contributionRod was squeezing water out of rocks. We really didn't help him tbh.
Trystan Hill and Taco Charlton were Rod's contributionRod was squeezing water out of rocks. We really didn't help him tbh.
There was an overwhelming number of Dak fans that blamed Quinn for not being able to give Dak the 85 Bears to try and drag him to an NFCCG. Another corpse on the pile.Year - Coordinator - Team Defense Ranking
2010 - Paul Pasqualoni (Interim) - Ranked 31st
2011 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 16th
2012 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 24th
2013 - Monte Kiffin - Ranked 26th
2014 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 15th
2015 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 16th
2016 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 5th
2017 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 13th
2018 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 6th
2019 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 11th
2020 - Mike Nolan - Ranked 28th
2021 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 7th
2022 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 6th
2023 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 5th
2024 - Mike Zimmer - 31st
2025 - Matt Ebrfuls - Currently ranked 31st
Pasqualoni - horrible
Rob Ryan - below average to bad
Kiffin - horrible
Marinelli - average (two good seasons)
Nolan - horrible
Quinn - good (all three seasons good)
Zimmer - horrible
Eberflus - horrible
So in the last 8 DC's that Jerry has hired there has only been one that is good (Quinn), one that is average (Marinelli), one that was below average to bad (Ryan), and FIVE downright terrible choices (Pasqualoni, Kiffin, Nolan, Zimmer, and Eberflus).
Quinn was smoke and mirrors. They overachieved stat wise, but it was pass rush and turnovers or they didn't stop anyone.Year - Coordinator - Team Defense Ranking
2010 - Paul Pasqualoni (Interim) - Ranked 31st
2011 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 16th
2012 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 24th
2013 - Monte Kiffin - Ranked 26th
2014 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 15th
2015 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 16th
2016 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 5th
2017 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 13th
2018 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 6th
2019 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 11th
2020 - Mike Nolan - Ranked 28th
2021 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 7th
2022 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 6th
2023 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 5th
2024 - Mike Zimmer - 31st
2025 - Matt Ebrfuls - Currently ranked 31st
Pasqualoni - horrible
Rob Ryan - below average to bad
Kiffin - horrible
Marinelli - average (two good seasons)
Nolan - horrible
Quinn - good (all three seasons good)
Zimmer - horrible
Eberflus - horrible
So in the last 8 DC's that Jerry has hired there has only been one that is good (Quinn), one that is average (Marinelli), one that was below average to bad (Ryan), and FIVE downright terrible choices (Pasqualoni, Kiffin, Nolan, Zimmer, and Eberflus).
Thats essentially what you should expect when you continue to hire old re-treadsZimmer was just here to hang around like a vulture, incase McCarthy got canned mid season. I dont think he put in much effort into the defense.
While you may be right in the long run I'd sure take a pass rush and turnovers right now.Quinn was smoke and mirrors. They overachieved stat wise, but it was pass rush and turnovers or they didn't stop anyone.
Year - Coordinator - Team Defense Ranking
2010 - Paul Pasqualoni (Interim) - Ranked 31st
2011 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 16th
2012 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 24th
2013 - Monte Kiffin - Ranked 26th
2014 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 15th
2015 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 16th
2016 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 5th
2017 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 13th
2018 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 6th
2019 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 11th
2020 - Mike Nolan - Ranked 28th
2021 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 7th
2022 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 6th
2023 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 5th
2024 - Mike Zimmer - 31st
2025 - Matt Ebrfuls - Currently ranked 31st
Pasqualoni - horrible
Rob Ryan - below average to bad
Kiffin - horrible
Marinelli - average (two good seasons)
Nolan - horrible
Quinn - good (all three seasons good)
Zimmer - horrible
Eberflus - horrible
So in the last 8 DC's that Jerry has hired there has only been one that is good (Quinn), one that is average (Marinelli), one that was below average to bad (Ryan), and FIVE downright terrible choices (Pasqualoni, Kiffin, Nolan, Zimmer, and Eberflus).
All Jerry had to do was let Schottenheimer use his connections in the league to find a young promising guy like he did with Adams, but no, Jerry has to hire the DC first so everyone knows he's the real boss and not the head coach.
Of course at that time I'm not sure Jerry was that sold on Schotty and had no idea who Klayton Adams even was, much less that he'd be so good. Because Jerry is a football moron.
This forum has no clue about anything defense.LOL @ all hindsight on "we should have kept DQ." As I remember, most on the forums were "don't let the door hit you" when teams were coming after him. DQ was blamed for the running problems, then Micah took the heat on the forums.... the problem is staring right at you for 30 years. Only one constant through all of this.
Agree with your whole premise of this thread brother but Jerry's rescue job with Quinn is worth mentioning.I called the Zimmer disaster even before Jerry hired him when the rumors were floating. I knew two things; Jerry would hire him, and it would be a disaster.
I knew this because Zimmer has always stunk, and stunk it up here in his first stint as DC back in the early 2000s. I think his record for 200 yard rushers given up in one season still stands as an all time shame record.
I caught hell for that on here because in a world of lies, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. Lots of people don't like me because of that, but I have been right about nearly every call I've made these last few years. Things like bringing Zeke back, Dak's contract, getting fleeced in the Parsons trade, Mazi Smith being a bust (called that one in his very first preseason game with the old reliable eyeball test), last year's collapse, this year's collapse, and many more than that.
Although I do have to admit that Zimmer was an even bigger disaster than I thought. He turned Quinn's 5th ranked defense to 31st overnight. I figured we would drop to the 20's, but Zimmer bottomed this thing out and it's still there.
There is no way this defense is ranked 31stYear - Coordinator - Team Defense Ranking
2010 - Paul Pasqualoni (Interim) - Ranked 31st
2011 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 16th
2012 - Rob Ryan - Ranked 24th
2013 - Monte Kiffin - Ranked 26th
2014 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 15th
2015 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 16th
2016 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 5th
2017 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 13th
2018 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 6th
2019 - Rod Marinelli - Ranked 11th
2020 - Mike Nolan - Ranked 28th
2021 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 7th
2022 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 6th
2023 - Dan Quinn - Ranked 5th
2024 - Mike Zimmer - 31st
2025 - Matt Ebrfuls - Currently ranked 31st
Pasqualoni - horrible
Rob Ryan - below average to bad
Kiffin - horrible
Marinelli - average (two good seasons)
Nolan - horrible
Quinn - good (all three seasons good)
Zimmer - horrible
Eberflus - horrible
So in the last 8 DC's that Jerry has hired there has only been one that is good (Quinn), one that is average (Marinelli), one that was below average to bad (Ryan), and FIVE downright terrible choices (Pasqualoni, Kiffin, Nolan, Zimmer, and Eberflus).
Jerry probably was thinking Rex would've stole some of the spotlight. Jerry can't have that.Should have hired Rex Ryan when they had the chance.
Sell that to any Head Coach.Jerry probably was thinking Rex would've stole some of the spotlight. Jerry can't have that.
yeah. Rex is a buffoon, no doubt. But he would have this defense, with these players, playing better than they are now.Sell that to any Head Coach.
