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With the discussions about qb’s coming back for their senior season, I wanted to look up the QB’s drafted in the 1st round and see how it stood. I might have missed some but I think I got them all.
Some of them, I was unable to confirm that they used all 4 years of collegiate eligibility so I put a ? behind their name.
Here is a partial list of QB’s drafted in the 1st round from 1982 to 2003.
Hall of Fame caliber
1. John Elway SR, 1983
2. Jim Kelly, SR, 1983
3. Dan Marino, SR, 1983
4. Troy Aikman Redshirt SR, 1989
5. Peyton Manning SR 1998
6. Donovan McNabb SR, 1999
Average to very good
1. Jim McMahon SR (5th pick Bears 1982)
2. Bernie Kosar Redshirt Soph (1985 supplemental pick, Browns)
3. Jim Everett, I believe SR (3rd Oilers, traded to Rams 1986)
4. Vinny Testaverde SR (1st pick Bucs 1987)
5. Chris Miller SR, (13th pick Falcons, 1987
6. Jim Harbaugh SR, (26th pick Bears, 1987
7. Jeff George, SR?, (1st pick Colts, 1990)
8. Drew Bledsoe JR, (1st pick Patriots 1993)
9. Trent Dilfer, JR, (6th pick Bucs, 1994)
10. Steve McNair, SR (3rd pick Oilers 1995)
11. Kerry Collins, Redshirt SR (5th pick Panthers, 1995)
12. Tim Couch, decent before injuries took him out, JR, 1999
13. Daunte Culpepper, SR, (11th pick Vikings, 1999)
14. Chad Pennington, SR, (18th pick Jets 2000)
15. Mike Vick, Redshirt Soph, (1st pick Falcons 2001)
16. Carson Palmer, SR, (1st pick Bengals, 2003)
17. Byron Leftwich, SR, (7th pick Jaguars, 2003)
18. Ben Roethlisberger, Redshirt JR, (11th Steelers 2004)
The busts…….
1. Art Schlichter, SR (fourth pick, 1982, Colts
2. Todd Blackledge, 3 yr starter, SR? (7th pick, 1983, Chiefs)
3. Tony Eason SR? (15th pick, Patriots, 1983)
4. Ken O’Brien SR? (24th pick Jets 1983)
5. Chuck Long, SR? (12th pick, Lions, 1986
6. Kelly Stouffer 3yr starter, I believe SR (6th pick, Rams, 1987
7. Steve Walsh, JR (1989 supplemental draft Cowboys)
8. Andre Ware, JR (seventh pick, Lions, 1990)
9. Dan McGwire SR? (16th pick, Seahawks, 1991)
10. Todd Marinovich Redshirt Soph? (24th, Raiders, 1991)
11. David Klingler SR (sixth pick, Bengals, 1992)
12. Tommy Maddox, JR(25th pick, Broncos, 1992
13. Dave Brown, JR, (1992 supplemental draft pick, Giants)
14. Rick Mirer SR (second pick, Seahawks, 1993)
15. Heath Shuler JR (third pick, Commanders, 1994)
16. Jim Druckenmiller, SR? (26th, 49ers, 1997)
17. Ryan Leaf JR (second pick, Chargers, 1998)
18. Akili Smith, JR (third pick, Bengals, 1999)
19. Cade McNown, SR (12th, Bears, 1999)
20. David Carr, SR (1st, Texans 2002)
21. Joey Harrington SR (3rd Lions, 2002)
22. Kyle Boller SR (19th Ravens 2003)
Still too early to tell for certain……..
1. Rex Grossman, JR (22nd Bears 2003)
2. Eli Manning, SR, (1st Chargers, trade to Giants 2004)
3. Philip Rivers, SR, (4th Giants, trade to Chargers) 2004)
4. J.P. Losman, SR (22nd Bills 2004)
5. Alex Smith, JR, (1st 49ers 2005)
6. Aaron Rodgers, JR (24th Packers 2005)
7. Jason Campbell, SR (25th ‘Skins 2005)
None of the great ones left school early, but there are still plenty of Seniors that flopped.
What do you guys (and ladies think)? Does it make a big difference or not?
Some of them, I was unable to confirm that they used all 4 years of collegiate eligibility so I put a ? behind their name.
Here is a partial list of QB’s drafted in the 1st round from 1982 to 2003.
Hall of Fame caliber
1. John Elway SR, 1983
2. Jim Kelly, SR, 1983
3. Dan Marino, SR, 1983
4. Troy Aikman Redshirt SR, 1989
5. Peyton Manning SR 1998
6. Donovan McNabb SR, 1999
Average to very good
1. Jim McMahon SR (5th pick Bears 1982)
2. Bernie Kosar Redshirt Soph (1985 supplemental pick, Browns)
3. Jim Everett, I believe SR (3rd Oilers, traded to Rams 1986)
4. Vinny Testaverde SR (1st pick Bucs 1987)
5. Chris Miller SR, (13th pick Falcons, 1987
6. Jim Harbaugh SR, (26th pick Bears, 1987
7. Jeff George, SR?, (1st pick Colts, 1990)
8. Drew Bledsoe JR, (1st pick Patriots 1993)
9. Trent Dilfer, JR, (6th pick Bucs, 1994)
10. Steve McNair, SR (3rd pick Oilers 1995)
11. Kerry Collins, Redshirt SR (5th pick Panthers, 1995)
12. Tim Couch, decent before injuries took him out, JR, 1999
13. Daunte Culpepper, SR, (11th pick Vikings, 1999)
14. Chad Pennington, SR, (18th pick Jets 2000)
15. Mike Vick, Redshirt Soph, (1st pick Falcons 2001)
16. Carson Palmer, SR, (1st pick Bengals, 2003)
17. Byron Leftwich, SR, (7th pick Jaguars, 2003)
18. Ben Roethlisberger, Redshirt JR, (11th Steelers 2004)
The busts…….
1. Art Schlichter, SR (fourth pick, 1982, Colts
2. Todd Blackledge, 3 yr starter, SR? (7th pick, 1983, Chiefs)
3. Tony Eason SR? (15th pick, Patriots, 1983)
4. Ken O’Brien SR? (24th pick Jets 1983)
5. Chuck Long, SR? (12th pick, Lions, 1986
6. Kelly Stouffer 3yr starter, I believe SR (6th pick, Rams, 1987
7. Steve Walsh, JR (1989 supplemental draft Cowboys)
8. Andre Ware, JR (seventh pick, Lions, 1990)
9. Dan McGwire SR? (16th pick, Seahawks, 1991)
10. Todd Marinovich Redshirt Soph? (24th, Raiders, 1991)
11. David Klingler SR (sixth pick, Bengals, 1992)
12. Tommy Maddox, JR(25th pick, Broncos, 1992
13. Dave Brown, JR, (1992 supplemental draft pick, Giants)
14. Rick Mirer SR (second pick, Seahawks, 1993)
15. Heath Shuler JR (third pick, Commanders, 1994)
16. Jim Druckenmiller, SR? (26th, 49ers, 1997)
17. Ryan Leaf JR (second pick, Chargers, 1998)
18. Akili Smith, JR (third pick, Bengals, 1999)
19. Cade McNown, SR (12th, Bears, 1999)
20. David Carr, SR (1st, Texans 2002)
21. Joey Harrington SR (3rd Lions, 2002)
22. Kyle Boller SR (19th Ravens 2003)
Still too early to tell for certain……..
1. Rex Grossman, JR (22nd Bears 2003)
2. Eli Manning, SR, (1st Chargers, trade to Giants 2004)
3. Philip Rivers, SR, (4th Giants, trade to Chargers) 2004)
4. J.P. Losman, SR (22nd Bills 2004)
5. Alex Smith, JR, (1st 49ers 2005)
6. Aaron Rodgers, JR (24th Packers 2005)
7. Jason Campbell, SR (25th ‘Skins 2005)
None of the great ones left school early, but there are still plenty of Seniors that flopped.
What do you guys (and ladies think)? Does it make a big difference or not?