2020 potential out of Tyron Smith contract

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  1. mattjames2010

    mattjames2010 Well-Known Member

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    Nothing you stated are "facts" - Romo from 2009-2013 NEVER had top 5 time to throw from the pocket. He also had pretty crappy run blocking from 09 to 2012.

    It's hilarious to me that a line with 2 all-pro and an average tackle rather than the a makeshift line with rotating guards, Phil freakin' Costa, Doug Free at LT is suddenly "totally better than 2018 O-Line"
     
  2. mattjames2010

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    Who is "they"? PFF? Boi, PFF has them listed at 14 for the 2018 season.
     
  3. Hennessy_King

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    It might have looked better on paper, but the 2018 o line was worse. Sorry.
     
  4. mattjames2010

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    Yes, bottom of the league - at times when we were ranked near 32nd in pass protection, is certainly better than being ranked 14th. You're right.

    My goodness, this is just laziness I've never seen before. Also coupled with being stubborn. This is sad.
     
  5. Hennessy_King

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    Most sacks charged directly to QBs this season (as opposed to blockers):

    Dak Prescott 15
    Deshaun Watson 14
    Russell Wilson 13
    Patrick Mahomes 10
    Mitchell Trubisky 9
    Jared Goff 8
    Lamar Jackson 8
    Josh Rosen 7

     
  6. Hennessy_King

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    Being responsible for more sacks and more holding calls I would say is worse.
     
  7. mattjames2010

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    ...PFF....which has Cowboys ranked at 14. It doesn't help your point.
     
  8. Hennessy_King

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    It does it probably means they gave dak more than he was responsible for. How can you watch every game and say our o line played even average.
     
  9. mattjames2010

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    "more sacks" doesn't tell the entire story - you don't know what you're on about. Look at hurries, hits, and time to throw. Do you know see how things do not add up? Dak was near the top in time to throw.

    Also, despite Dak's legs - he's not exactly what I consider to have great pocket awareness - Romo often avoided. This is what he had to deal with over the years.



    If Romo was a statue, he'd have had over 50 sacks a few times from 2009 to 2013.
     
  10. CowboysRule

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    So what you're saying is Dak was responsible for 8 more sacks than the average QB?
     
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  11. mattjames2010

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    LOL oh my god.

    > Here is PFF, they are correct because of my narrative!
    > Okay, PFF is wrong there because of my narrative!
     
  12. Hennessy_King

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    My narrative is the O line was responsible for a lot of sacks. Not Dak. Can you provide anything that disputes this? And before you show me, a pic of your fleshlight with Romo's face taped to it does not count.
     
  13. Hennessy_King

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    Yes. I didn't say he was perfect and this is one thing he absolutely has to improve on. But still the o line being responsible for that many sacks is disturbing, especially with the amount of holding penalties as well.
     
  14. mattjames2010

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    No, what you're doing is called confirmation bias and you're being called out on it. It's worse that it's so blatant. Now you're losing and resorting to middle-school level comebacks. LOL

    This place is truly entertaining.
     
  15. Hennessy_King

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    Mobile qb's always have a higher Time to Throw. This year he was behind
    Josh Allen 3.22
    Lamar Jackson
    Russell Wilson
    Deshaun Watson
    Aaron Rodgers
    Jared Goff
    Cody Kessler
    Sam Darnold
    Pat Mahomes 2.92
    Dak Prescott 2.82

    Other qbs very close were Jameis and Baker
     
  16. Hennessy_King

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    Your romo bias has been on full display ever since dak was made starting qb. The o line was bad last season combined with a bad o coordinator did not help this team at all. Maybe average to better than average run blocking but bad in pass pro the stats prove that to be so.
     
  17. mattjames2010

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    First off, they take into consideration the "mobility" - and what are you even talking about here? The biggest problem with Prescott, and even Prescott lovers here, state that he doesn't get outside the pocket enough - you act as if Prescott was dancing around in the pocket a lot. I want to you to provide me evidence of this.
     
  18. mattjames2010

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    YOU brought up Romo, you wanted him in this discussion - I didn't bring him into it. I don't need to bring up past players to make a point.

    Bad offensive protection and average run blocking wouldn't have our line ranked 14th - remember, the very site you are using to make your stupid point backed by nothing, disagrees with you.
     
  19. Hennessy_King

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    He ran 305 times I'm sure that effects his time to throw.
     
  20. Hennessy_King

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    So you are saying he is responsible for more than 15 sacks? If so do you have anything to back up your opinion other than you hating Dak Prescott?
     

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