2025-26 College Football Thread

[jterrell]

woo boy this is going well

 

[jterrell]

tell me what Duke did; or for that matter BYU

the SEC consists this year of above average teams and nothing more
yet you lick their boots

This is only complicated if you refuse to see the truth.

The ACC was easily the worst of the P4 conferences and Notre Dame had a tie in with them for 5 games.
Notre Dame went 4-1 versus the WORST P4 conference.

The SEC is overrated every year and every week. They did a lot in the early aughts to deserve that but it is very real. Same way UT was overrated for about 10 of the final 12 seasons they were in the Big 12.
And Notre Dame BENEFITTED from that this year when the loss to TAMU at home was considered some glorious loss even if reality is neither TAMU nor Miami are actually top 10 football teams but more 11-15 area.

But winning a conference title is an ACCOMPLISHMENT, not an entitlement.
That is the problem with culture war buzzwords. They often are goofy beyond belief and mean nothing except an empty insult.

Notre Dame is getting a participation trophy. That's all they can get because they do not play in a conference for a title. They didn't go 11-1 as BYU has and didn't make a CCG.
In no universe should they be above BYU.
And they have to deal with the same reality the ACC and Big 12 does that you get 1 less loss to play with than the SEC or Big 10.
Notre Dame played its two hardest games the first two weeks. IF they actually just improved which is certainly possible it is still very much unproven because they played no one to test that theory.
And they can't blame anyone else because they make over half of their schedule.

If Notre Dame gets in it will because of brand power and a touch of last year's success. If they do not it will be because too many other teams had an extra data point and they lost head-to-head so got bumped down a slot.

Notre Dame and UT fans are both literally insane with all these complaints.

 

[jterrell]

If anyone is interested

247's recruiting rankings...

USC became the first non-SEC team to have the #1 projected recruiting class in 18 years.

That surprises me, as I would've assumed Ohio St had at least #1 class in that span.
Guess not. Maybe in Rivals

Those rankings mean less than they have in 20 years.
That's the forest people don't see for the trees.

tOSU has had the best talent. Doesn't matter where it is ranked on signing day, it matters where it ends up.
The portal corrected a lot of misevaluations and missed kids.
UT wouldn't be in the CFP last year without Matthew Golden who was recruited and developed by the G5 version of UH.
tOSU won the title with a 4-year Kansas State QB.

Oregon, Indiana, and tOSU are all starting transfer QBs this year.
Teams like Clemson that are wed to their high school kids are falling off the map.

It's not at all unlike the Cowboys relying on only draftees.
If you ignore free agency and trades, you can't build a title winning NFL roster in 2025.
So yea those 247 rankings are basically saying these are the teams we "think" won the draft on draft day.

 

[gtb1943]

Those rankings mean less than they have in 20 years.
That's the forest people don't see for the trees.

tOSU has had the best talent. Doesn't matter where it is ranked on signing day, it matters where it ends up.
The portal corrected a lot of misevaluations and missed kids.
UT wouldn't be in the CFP last year without Matthew Golden who was recruited and developed by the G5 version of UH.
tOSU won the title with a 4-year Kansas State QB.

Oregon, Indiana, and tOSU are all starting transfer QBs this year.
Teams like Clemson that are wed to their high school kids are falling off the map.

It's not at all unlike the Cowboys relying on only draftees.
If you ignore free agency and trades, you can't build a title winning NFL roster in 2025.
So yea those 247 rankings are basically saying these are the teams we "think" won the draft on draft day.

when you get right down to it there really is no difference from high school ratings on prospects to NFL ratings on prospects
they always are hugely slanted towards potential rather then production

 

[gtb1943]

This is only complicated if you refuse to see the truth.

The ACC was easily the worst of the P4 conferences and Notre Dame had a tie in with them for 5 games.
Notre Dame went 4-1 versus the WORST P4 conference.

The SEC is overrated every year and every week. They did a lot in the early aughts to deserve that but it is very real. Same way UT was overrated for about 10 of the final 12 seasons they were in the Big 12.
And Notre Dame BENEFITTED from that this year when the loss to TAMU at home was considered some glorious loss even if reality is neither TAMU nor Miami are actually top 10 football teams but more 11-15 area.

But winning a conference title is an ACCOMPLISHMENT, not an entitlement.
That is the problem with culture war buzzwords. They often are goofy beyond belief and mean nothing except an empty insult.

Notre Dame is getting a participation trophy. That's all they can get because they do not play in a conference for a title. They didn't go 11-1 as BYU has and didn't make a CCG.
In no universe should they be above BYU.
And they have to deal with the same reality the ACC and Big 12 does that you get 1 less loss to play with than the SEC or Big 10.
Notre Dame played its two hardest games the first two weeks. IF they actually just improved which is certainly possible it is still very much unproven because they played no one to test that theory.
And they can't blame anyone else because they make over half of their schedule.

If Notre Dame gets in it will because of brand power and a touch of last year's success. If they do not it will be because too many other teams had an extra data point and they lost head-to-head so got bumped down a slot.

Notre Dame and UT fans are both literally insane with all these complaints.

conference means nothing today
dinosaurs that whine and cry about how important they are simply are refusing to become extinct like they should be
with more and more money coming into it the conference influence is slowly but steadily disappearing. which is a good thing
CCG are more and more becoming superfluous to the CFP as the committee has clearly shown
and the conferences have shown that by removing divisions

 

[jterrell]

Those rankings mean less than they have in 20 years.
That's the forest people don't see for the trees.

tOSU has had the best talent. Doesn't matter where it is ranked on signing day, it matters where it ends up.
The portal corrected a lot of misevaluations and missed kids.
UT wouldn't be in the CFP last year without Matthew Golden who was recruited and developed by the G5 version of UH.
tOSU won the title with a 4-year Kansas State QB.

Oregon, Indiana, and tOSU are all starting transfer QBs this year.
Teams like Clemson that are wed to their high school kids are falling off the map.

It's not at all unlike the Cowboys relying on only draftees.
If you ignore free agency and trades, you can't build a title winning NFL roster in 2025.
So yea those 247 rankings are basically saying these are the teams we "think" won the draft on draft day.

 

[jterrell]

conference means nothing today
dinosaurs that whine and cry about how important they are simply are refusing to become extinct like they should be
with more and more money coming into it the conference influence is slowly but steadily disappearing. which is a good thing
CCG are more and more becoming superfluous to the CFP as the committee has clearly shown
and the conferences have shown that by removing divisions

Brother that is the most copium post of all-time.
Conferences mean more now than they EVER have before.
I wish they meant less!!!

But with 9 conference games coming for all P4 and at most 1 non-conf versus a P4 the conferences are about all that matters.
And they directly fill 5 of the 12 spots in the CFP.

 

[DFWJC]

conference means nothing today

 

[jterrell]

woo, he cooked Notre Dame here...

 

[DFWJC]

woo, he cooked Notre Dame here...

There are a lot of debates out there, and that's fine.

But given their resumes and the head-to-head, I don't think Miami > Notre Dame should even be debatable.

Maybe there are other at large teams that get in that ND should be ahead of (not the topic) but that group does not include Miami.

 

[gtb1943]

There are a lot of debates out there, and that's fine.

But given their resumes and the head-to-head, I don't think Miami > Notre Dame should even be debatable.

Maybe there are other at large teams that get in that ND should be ahead of (not the topic) but that group does not include Miami.

for those that do not look deeper

look at our loss yesterday
looks at first glance like a near blowout when we got to within three late.
But that is for those who never take a real look


Is a team on game one the same as on game 12?


I know some of you do not want to look at things like that

Remember Texas was ranked #1 week one

what are they now?

 

[DFWJC]

....

Remember Texas was ranked #1 week one

what are they now?

That's why the CFP doesn't have its first ranking until week 10

The other early rankings--especially preseason rankings--are jokes

 

[atlantacowboy]

He is a solid QB and has potential to be very good, but I was just saying the part of his game that was massively overrated was his raw athleticism.
Playing a bunch of Christian school kids in Louisiana wasn't exactly 5-star competition. He ran through them with ease, but he hasn't run it very effectively this year even versus teams like UTEP.
Which doesn't matter much if he gets his reads down pat and uses the arm which is definitely a major weapon.
He has the 12th most rushing yards of the 16 starting SEC QBs.

Joe Burrow as a runner comp makes sense. Josh Allen does not. Josh is significantly more athletic.
Arch is significantly more polished as a passer than Josh was.

This isn't true. I put Josh Allen in there bc he and Arch have about the same 40 time. Allen probbaly has a much better arm but as a runner, they are about the same. We've seen arch run and he's pretty dam fast. He just hasn't chosen to tuck and run much this year but thats not bc he can't. I think teams just have had decided to box him in and make him beat them with his arm.............and he can't really do that yet.

 

[Shane612]

GO MEAN GREEN!!!!!

 

[cowboyec]

matt campbell to penn st on a 8yr deal.
great hire in happy valley.

 

[DFWJC]

GO MEAN GREEN!!!!!

Sorry bro

 

[DFWJC]

Tulane is locking in a playoff spot

Still plenty of time but their D is good so
31-7 lead over 11-1 UNT midway in the 3rd is a big margin

Meanwhile, JMU will beat Troy by a couple of scores. Not nearly as good of a win

 

[DFWJC]

This isn't true. I put Josh Allen in there bc he and Arch have about the same 40 time. Allen probbaly has a much better arm but as a runner, they are about the same. We've seen arch run and he's pretty dam fast. He just hasn't chosen to tuck and run much this year but thats not bc he can't. I think teams just have had decided to box him in and make him beat them with his arm.............and he can't really do that yet.

Allen is a much more powerful runner

 

[DFWJC]

Tulane is locking in a playoff spot

Still plenty of time but their D is good so
31-7 lead over 11-1 UNT midway in the 3rd is a big margin

Meanwhile, JMU will beat Troy by a couple of scores. Not nearly as good of a win

Nice effort by UNT.

Now 31-22 with a LOT of time left. 9 minutes!
Could get interesting

 

[Shane612]

Sorry bro

that's the way it goes....