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leave conferences completely out of the equation

SOS, metrics, analytics, etc

get the 12 or whatever teams that have the numbers and that is it

THAT way everyone knows what is going on and there are no back room deals
 


also me on this thread. I will go gtb on yall's behind for sure. let them even come within a TD.

I am generally curious about that Ole Miss game, If there ever is a mix where this might happen it could be a situation like here where a team is cobbling together a coaching staff.
 
leave conferences completely out of the equation

SOS, metrics, analytics, etc

get the 12 or whatever teams that have the numbers and that is it

THAT way everyone knows what is going on and there are no back room deals
Noooo...
The entire country is not going to all of a sudden change the game to favor Notre Dame.
You boys want to go it alone and proudly proclaim that daily so sit down and enjoy the fruits of your labors.
The game is built on conferences and that means you have 15 other teams fighting FOR you as well as access to a championship game.

Wanting this stuff to not matter won't change that it VERY much does.

The reality is any actual Notre Dame football fan should BADLY want them in the Big 10.
The conference would get 3+ teams in yearly, and you'd get headline treatment on Fox many times per season.
You'd also have watchable games as opposed to Syracuse and Boston College.
You could schedule Navy, 1 primo game versus the SEC and a G5. You'd at worst have a tOSU type schedule that allowed you to be ranked top 4 even with a loss and top 10 even with 2.
You also have a free slot in the Big 10 hierarchy that Penitentiary State just simply abandoned with silliness.
 
Noooo...
The entire country is not going to all of a sudden change the game to favor Notre Dame.
You boys want to go it alone and proudly proclaim that daily so sit down and enjoy the fruits of your labors.
The game is built on conferences and that means you have 15 other teams fighting FOR you as well as access to a championship game.

Wanting this stuff to not matter won't change that it VERY much does.

The reality is any actual Notre Dame football fan should BADLY want them in the Big 10.
The conference would get 3+ teams in yearly, and you'd get headline treatment on Fox many times per season.
You'd also have watchable games as opposed to Syracuse and Boston College.
You could schedule Navy, 1 primo game versus the SEC and a G5. You'd at worst have a tOSU type schedule that allowed you to be ranked top 4 even with a loss and top 10 even with 2.
You also have a free slot in the Big 10 hierarchy that Penitentiary State just simply abandoned with silliness.
take your conference fanaticism and shove it

the playoffs should be done by numbers not people

The NFL and NBA do it strictly by the numbers but you have a problem here? There is no committee

there is no reason that it cannot be done in college football

much more fair for EVERYONE

but of course between your hatred of ND and love of conferences you are unable to make the logical choice
 
take your conference fanaticism and shove it

the playoffs should be done by numbers not people

The NFL and NBA do it strictly by the numbers but you have a problem here? There is no committee

there is no reason that it cannot be done in college football

much more fair for EVERYONE

but of course between your hatred of ND and love of conferences you are unable to make the logical choice
Dude, are you lost in the copium sauce?
The NFL and NBA both break it up by conference AND division.

There is no independent major sport anywhere on earth.
They all confirm to smaller groups that feed bigger playoffs.
The NBA doesn't let the 16 best teams go they let 8 best form each conference.
The NFL makes the division winners top 4 seeds in each conference even if one of them is merely .500.

Both do this because they are not morons.
They know they need audiences from across the country. It means free publicity and marketing in every major market.
 
Dude, are you lost in the copium sauce?
The NFL and NBA both break it up by conference AND division.

There is no independent major sport anywhere on earth.
They all confirm to smaller groups that feed bigger playoffs.
The NBA doesn't let the 16 best teams go they let 8 best form each conference.
The NFL makes the division winners top 4 seeds in each conference even if one of them is merely .500.

Both do this because they are not morons.
They know they need audiences from across the country. It means free publicity and marketing in every major market.
:hammer:

Owned. It’s staring him right in the face.

Conferences matter in EVERY sport.
 
Dude, are you lost in the copium sauce?
The NFL and NBA both break it up by conference AND division.

There is no independent major sport anywhere on earth.
They all confirm to smaller groups that feed bigger playoffs.
The NBA doesn't let the 16 best teams go they let 8 best form each conference.
The NFL makes the division winners top 4 seeds in each conference even if one of them is merely .500.

Both do this because they are not morons.
They know they need audiences from across the country. It means free publicity and marketing in every major market.
These are weak examples because pro sports are more balanced by division, numbers, etc. They also all eat from the same revenue trough. Take the NFL. You don't have the NFCE games on Fox while NFCW games are only on CBS and there is no sharing of TV revenue equally across all networks. Pro sports scheduling is different. Because of the bloat of the conferences now, in some cases, some teams might not play each other for years. The idea that a solution to this is more conference inclusion is bizarre. In order to make college sports more like pro sports, you'd realistically have to gut the existing conference structure.

Further, even the conference members themselves are hinting at the reality that CCGs may have to disappear. If anything, the importance of conferences may diminish over time if they go to a larger playoff field.

IMO, they should go to 16 teams. Each P4 conference gets an AQ (or maybe the SEC and BIG get 2 AQs). The remaining 12 slots are at larges decided by a BCS style system where we use human polls and computer polls.

This idea that if ND joins a conference it somehow fixes things is absurd. Because it just shifts to how the SEC and BIG can use their influence to try to get more SEC teams in there over Big 12 teams, for example. The fix isn't give the conference more power. The fix is give them less power.
 
Dude, are you lost in the copium sauce?
The NFL and NBA both break it up by conference AND division.

There is no independent major sport anywhere on earth.
They all confirm to smaller groups that feed bigger playoffs.
The NBA doesn't let the 16 best teams go they let 8 best form each conference.
The NFL makes the division winners top 4 seeds in each conference even if one of them is merely .500.

Both do this because they are not morons.
They know they need audiences from across the country. It means free publicity and marketing in every major market.
and how is this decided?
By committee?

There should be no conference consideration at all beyond how it factors into the strength of each team. No auto bids that you love so much
 
:hammer:

Owned. It’s staring him right in the face.

Conferences matter in EVERY sport.
show me who gets automatic bids for being in a conference?
the winner and no one else.

BUT if you want that then...

If that is the case then the ALL American Conf and all the others should get an auto bid

you are arguing for special treatment and that is always wrong
 
Noooo...
The entire country is not going to all of a sudden change the game to favor Notre Dame.
You boys want to go it alone and proudly proclaim that daily so sit down and enjoy the fruits of your labors.
The game is built on conferences and that means you have 15 other teams fighting FOR you as well as access to a championship game.

Wanting this stuff to not matter won't change that it VERY much does.

The reality is any actual Notre Dame football fan should BADLY want them in the Big 10.
The conference would get 3+ teams in yearly, and you'd get headline treatment on Fox many times per season.
You'd also have watchable games as opposed to Syracuse and Boston College.
You could schedule Navy, 1 primo game versus the SEC and a G5. You'd at worst have a tOSU type schedule that allowed you to be ranked top 4 even with a loss and top 10 even with 2.
You also have a free slot in the Big 10 hierarchy that Penitentiary State just simply abandoned with silliness.
This is hot take that stinks. Part of it starts with this myth that ND always plays cake schedules. They do not. Now in fairness, the previous AD along with his buddy Brian Kelly decided their path to the postseason was through easier schedules and in fact, ND did in fact ease some schedules that have shown the last few years and next year. But that is changing back under new leadership.

Take the 2028 schedule for example. The open with Texas, play Clemson and Miami (and may add back USC if they can figure out their issues). They also have a game at Auburn on that schedule. Then they have mid-level teams like Pitt on there as well.

2029? Bama at home to open. Then a road game at Texas a few weeks later. They also have at FSU and at Clemson later that year. And again, if they figure out the USC situation, they could be back on the schedule.

Now could these change? Sure. Could Texas bow out claiming they don't want to play tough OOC games anymore since it does not benefit them, so we will see on that.

But the idea that ND "has" to join a conference is more driven by bitterness that ND can get away with going it on their own more than rationale analysis. Put it this way. If ND was a full member of the ACC this year, would they have gotten in? Nope. Why? Because ACC or not, ND would be taking a spot away from the biggest power player in the room - the SEC - and Yurachek and his conference mates in that room were going to protect any SEC team in Bama's spot.

You want to fix all of this? It's not conference membership for ND. It's tearing apart the stupid selection process we have now. That's where we should start.

PS - It should also be noted that this notion that ND has total autonomy with their schedule is also a lie. The ACC dictates to ND which 5 teams they play each year and then the schedule is created working around the existing ACC schedule. So while ND has control over a chunk of their schedule, they don't have complete control.
 
UM just fired Moore for an inappropriate relationship with a staff member.

Yikes.
 
UM just fired Moore for an inappropriate relationship with a staff member.

Yikes.
Quite the season for HC firings.

Who is even out there at this point to take over?

Brian Kelly? lol
 
show me who gets automatic bids for being in a conference?
the winner and no one else.

BUT if you want that then...

If that is the case then the ALL American Conf and all the others should get an auto bid

you are arguing for special treatment and that is always wrong
LOL you would HATE the non-committee solution.
It would be almost ALL auto-bids like the NBA and NFL or NAIA football.

It would include all 10 D1 conference champions, 2nd place teams from the P2, 3rd place teams from the P2 and possibly even 4th place P2 teams and 3rd place Big 12/ACC.
The would be a miniscule area for ND to get in an even expanded 24-team playoff.

This system is very imperfect, but it is still light years better than D1 football has EVER had before.

They badly need to expand to 16. To not publish any official poll until week 4. To add a requirement all teams must participate in any post season game for which they are eligible or face a 1-year post-season ban. --Can apply for special permission to skip with Head Coach loss.
Make the games start week 0 for everyone and play every week starting Turkey Day so we keep the games (except perhaps the Natty) in the 1st semester.
Create massive penalties for approaching coaches in season. --It will still happen, but it won't be Lane Kiffin public, and they won't announce anything before the season's end.
Create 5 years for 5 seasons and single medical year rules. 6 years should be the most any player can play on a collegiate level.

Create an arbitration panel of 5 federal judges across the regions that can rule on NCAA matters with a solid Commish from professional sports not any friggin Saban.
 
LOL you would HATE the non-committee solution.
It would be almost ALL auto-bids like the NBA and NFL or NAIA football.

It would include all 10 D1 conference champions, 2nd place teams from the P2, 3rd place teams from the P2 and possibly even 4th place P2 teams and 3rd place Big 12/ACC.
The would be a miniscule area for ND to get in an even expanded 24-team playoff.

This system is very imperfect, but it is still light years better than D1 football has EVER had before.

They badly need to expand to 16. To not publish any official poll until week 4. To add a requirement all teams must participate in any post season game for which they are eligible or face a 1-year post-season ban. --Can apply for special permission to skip with Head Coach loss.
Make the games start week 0 for everyone and play every week starting Turkey Day so we keep the games (except perhaps the Natty) in the 1st semester.
Create massive penalties for approaching coaches in season. --It will still happen, but it won't be Lane Kiffin public, and they won't announce anything before the season's end.
Create 5 years for 5 seasons and single medical year rules. 6 years should be the most any player can play on a collegiate level.

Create an arbitration panel of 5 federal judges across the regions that can rule on NCAA matters with a solid Commish from professional sports not any friggin Saban.
ND would have easily been in under metrics this year so your whole argument as usual fails
 
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